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Originally posted by HauntWok
But maybe just maybe, humans can use words instead of violence to solve life's problems. Yes, guns don't kill people, but violence sure can.
Originally posted by boncho
So by gun violence is he talking about Zimmerman defending himself, or is he talking about the illegal gun trade that Trayvon was involved in?
Originally posted by mwood
Originally posted by cry93
Do you disagree that America needs to decrease gun violence?
2nd
I agree that America needs to curb gun violence..... and rape, armed robbery, theft, knife murders,drunk driving, drug use, child abuse and every other crime that hurts people.
People need to have more common sense, compassion and personal responsibility for their actions and quit blaming circumstances, their upbringing, their financial status, other people and other races.
We have a people problem in America (and the rest of the world) that needs to change.
I refuse to blame guns, knives & cars for crime. It's not the matches fault when an arsonist strikes.
The pressure cooker didn't kill those people in Boston.....people did.
People have no morals or personal responsibility anymore. period!
Argue all you want, but those are the facts.
Originally posted by RalagaNarHallas
reply to post by cry93
you would be wrong if you hit the person following you and if they have a gun an you hit them you are most likely gonna be shot an killed for your mistake of assaulting some one out of the blue who possesses a fire arm
following people is legal at least once get over it no crime happend,no injustice scream about it until you are hoarse in the throat but that wont make you right, that is what jurys do when they rule you not guilty
Originally posted by cry93
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
Had Zimmermann stayed in his vehicle no one would have been killed. I'd like to think that if a stranger is following me and it is dark that I have the right to stand my ground and defend myself.
Originally posted by neo96
This is never letting a good crisis go to waste:
Politic's manufactured the GZ trial and never letting a good crisis go to waste politic's to offer a 'solution' that hell anyone paying attention to places like Chicago knows is just empty rhetoric.
There really expect people to buy this crap?
Hell they seriously act like guns get up all by themselves and go off indiscriminately.
I fully support mouth control for Obama.
As in a muzzle.
Originally posted by RalagaNarHallas
reply to post by cry93
“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” Sigmund Freud
edit on 14-7-2013 by RalagaNarHallas because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by HauntWok
So let's see, unarmed man, shot by armed man.
Let's not forget, someone is dead. Yes, he was found not guilty of murder or manslaughter. But the fact (and it is a fact) Zimmerman shot and killed Martin.
Some people may be proud of Zimmerman for what he did, some probably think he's a hero.
But maybe just maybe, humans can use words instead of violence to solve life's problems. Yes, guns don't kill people, but violence sure can.
Originally posted by cry93
reply to post by RalagaNarHallas
You are assuming that Trayvon struck first based on GZ words.
My point is being followed is a menacing act. Had GZ stayed in his vehicle as advised Trayvon would still be alive today. Walking at night isn't a crime, either.
Oh, and I like how you aborted your racial diatribe here. Good job.
Originally posted by SpaDe_
Originally posted by HauntWok
But maybe just maybe, humans can use words instead of violence to solve life's problems. Yes, guns don't kill people, but violence sure can.
You should have been there to tell that to Trayvon before he chose to assault Zimmerman, and maybe he would be alive today, but instead he chose to try and resolve what he saw as a problem with violence and in turn suffered the consequences.
edit on 7/14/2013 by SpaDe_ because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RalagaNarHallas
reply to post by ValentineWiggin
yeah but stalking is the repeated following not following a suspicious person one and that is why stalking has nothing to do with the Zimmerman case
its also stalking if they have a restraining order but as travon did not have such an order in place it too is not relevant to the Zimmerman trial
following as Zimmerman did was not nor will it ever be illegal on its self,it has to be a pattern or repeated behavior to qualify as stalking
Originally posted by SpaDe_
Originally posted by cry93
reply to post by RalagaNarHallas
You are assuming that Trayvon struck first based on GZ words.
My point is being followed is a menacing act. Had GZ stayed in his vehicle as advised Trayvon would still be alive today. Walking at night isn't a crime, either.
Oh, and I like how you aborted your racial diatribe here. Good job.
You could take this one step further and say that if Trayvon would have not gone into a neighborhood that he did not belong in he would still be alive. Let's face it Zimmerman was within his rights to follow Trayvon even if he wasn't neighborhood watch captain.
Following someone is not a menacing act either. If you have nothing to hide and your not doing anything wrong then why not just ask why the person is following. Instead Trayvon chose to confront and assault Zimmerman, and eyewitnesses corroborate his story.