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Then again, it's not at all clear that an informed Congress -- or even informed intelligence committees -- would matter. We've seen time and again in the almost dozen years since the 9/11 attacks an almost bipartisan deference to the executive. Wyden is in a tiny minority; most at least publicly side with McCain, Feinstein and others who see these programs as critical to protecting the Republic.
And, certainly, the American people themselves seem predisposed to trade privacy and liberty for even the illusion of safety, as evidenced by what we'll put up with at airports and virtually every opinion poll on the subject. A solid majority (56 percent) in a Washington Post-Pew survey taken after the NSA story broke support the program and a whopping 62 percent "think [it] is more important right now for the federal government to investigate possible terrorist threats, even if that intrudes on personal privacy."
Originally posted by cconn487
I'm okay with these programs...
If they check me out and find I am no threat to anybody, or National Security. Then I politely demand the information on members of congress and all appointees to high ranking positions made by Obama or anyone directly under his command.
I mean, if there is nothing to hide...
Why can't anyone with some public credibility ask some of these questions like this. Throw them a curve ball in an interview. Do something! What I wouldn't give to ask some people in high places just a single, basic, question.edit on 13-6-2013 by cconn487 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
They're just working overtime and weekends to make this whole thing go away, as if it never happened or something.
It's blowing into the level of scandal and outrage that brings down Governments in my opinion. Those in power see that by now and are scared. The people aren't just awake for this, they were already pissed. This has people seeing red and out for political blood on both sides.
A nation united is a politicians absolute worst nightmare. It's a nightmare, in part, we're seeing come to pass. Thank you NSA. Couldn't do it without ya!
Originally posted by GrantedBail
THis post makes me so mad I could spit. NO ONE is down with you creeping into their conversations and emails. They may not be out on the curb with a pitchfork and a torch. But trust and believe everyone is pissed. Don't throw (not you OP, the MSM) your stinky lying polls at us trying to calm us all down. NO!!! America is not down with that.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
reply to post by webpirate
They were snooping the entire time, and Boston still happened?
Obviously snooping doesn't work very well at preventing attacks like that.
Or they just false flagged it. Probably the latter.
I have never been polled by any of these organizations.
Originally posted by supremecommander
Originally posted by cconn487
I'm okay with these programs...
If they check me out and find I am no threat to anybody, or National Security. Then I politely demand the information on members of congress and all appointees to high ranking positions made by Obama or anyone directly under his command.
I mean, if there is nothing to hide...
Why can't anyone with some public credibility ask some of these questions like this. Throw them a curve ball in an interview. Do something! What I wouldn't give to ask some people in high places just a single, basic, question.edit on 13-6-2013 by cconn487 because: (no reason given)
There were people in Germany, many decades ago, that had your mentality.
Originally posted by cconn487
Originally posted by supremecommander
Originally posted by cconn487
I'm okay with these programs...
If they check me out and find I am no threat to anybody, or National Security. Then I politely demand the information on members of congress and all appointees to high ranking positions made by Obama or anyone directly under his command.
I mean, if there is nothing to hide...
Why can't anyone with some public credibility ask some of these questions like this. Throw them a curve ball in an interview. Do something! What I wouldn't give to ask some people in high places just a single, basic, question.edit on 13-6-2013 by cconn487 because: (no reason given)
There were people in Germany, many decades ago, that had your mentality.
You got me all wrong. I tried to get the sarcasm out, now re reading it it sounds like I support it. Boy couldn't be further from the truth. Been a long day and my sleep deprived brain is starting to make the action of getting thoughts to keyboard turn out to be a big mess.
I'm the guy that has been telling everyone for years CIA, DHS, FBI, pretty much every alphabet agency has been keeping tabs on facebook if not directly overseeing the whole thing. And to watch what they say on any social media.
Believe me, I'm tired of all this crap too.
I was just telling my wife, I am starting to think that the floodgates of the secrets are starting to open and everything is entering a new stage.
I told her to just keep watching the next few months, the Government goons are going to turn on each other and internal conflicts will destroy their organization and unity.
Originally posted by khimbar
Can someone answer me a question as I'm not in the United States?
Is anyone doing anything about it? I don't mean online angry posting, or letters to the editor, I mean actual actions?
Is anything actually happening? Are things happening in your towns or on your streets? Or is it still at the Angry Tutting Stage?
(The Angry Tutting Stage(TM) will be where it ends in the UK, if we can even be bothered to get that far)