The Zimmerman Trial

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever
I don't disagree with any of your statements. However, I think the unique nature of this trial and the legal precedent it will set are going to be significant factors in determining the ultimate verdict.

I think emotion is going to trump fact in this case, for better or worse.

I see. Well, if this is indeed the factor that sets the verdict, it's shameful. I for one will completely lose my trust in courts, knowing an incompetent judge combined with an emotionally vulnurable jury and outside influences (threats of riot) may mess anyone's live whether he was guilty, partially guilty or not guilty at all.

Originally posted by TKDRL
Lol what?
"I am not befuddled, and if he says it again.......... *mic cuts off*"

I heard that too, sounds like WFTV's legal expert is getting quite PO'd at the news guy.

reply to post by RickKilgannon


This is precisely why she should not be in charge of this trial. She should have recused herself.

Originally posted by TKDRL
Lol what?
"I am not befuddled, and if he says it again.......... *mic cuts off*"

Ya beat me to it.

Any idea of what they are talking about?

reply to post by TDawgRex


No clue, just got back from my cool off lunch break

Originally posted by tjack
Sucks that some nice people are probably going to die due to the outcome.

We've gassed up the cars and we did the grocery shopping a few days early just in case anything happens. We live in the city .. in a high crime area. So we are treating this like a tropical storm is sitting off the coast and could come in. It's best to have everything here and not to have to go out if it can be avoided. I don't think it will happen here ... but you never know. We are semi-preppers anyway.


That being said ... tropical storm Chanel is off the coast of Florida and should be bringing in a bunch of rain andwind in the next few days. That might keep the rioters/looters from organizing anything big.

How are the different news channels reporting it so far? are any saying "I think they will go with guilty" or the other way around?

Originally posted by TKDRL
Ok I wasn't hearing things lmao

Yeah you weren't. I couldn't even understand what was being said.
The people demand an explenation.

Originally posted by suz62
reply to post by RickKilgannon

 

This is precisely why she should not be in charge of this trial. She should have recused herself.

I agree, no judge should be scared of any outcome of any case in their courtroom, as long as the outcome that comes out is based on the facts and only the facts.

reply to post by InstantRemedy

Are you seriously trying to compare the use of emotions in a court of law, to their usage in sales jobs? LOL!

Yes, and having 3 lawyers in my family, they all agree.

Lawyers ARE salespeople, selling their argument to the jury. Pretty basic really.

Hello? This isn't a shop, it's a court house.

You are correct, but yet, there they are, playing to the jurors emotions. Plus, those were CLOSING ARGUEMENTS, not testimony, so lawyers can say whatever they want, without objection from the other side.

Show me one trial you've seen where lawyers have NOT playing to the jury's emotions? You can't.

Originally posted by TKDRL
Lol what?
"I am not befuddled, and if he says it again.......... *mic cuts off*"

POW! Alice! To the moon!

Sorry Mods...I couldn't help it.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Wow, stay safe, FF.

LIVE STREAM ... jury instructions next. 1/2 an hour to an hour. Then they jury goes into deliberation and picks a fore-woman. The judge will dismiss the alternates just before they go into deliberation.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by tjack
Sucks that some nice people are probably going to die due to the outcome.

We've gassed up the cars and we did the grocery shopping a few days early just in case anything happens. We live in the city .. in a high crime area. So we are treating this like a tropical storm is sitting off the coast and could come in. It's best to have everything here and not to have to go out if it can be avoided. I don't think it will happen here ... but you never know. We are semi-preppers anyway.


That being said ... tropical storm Chanel is off the coast of Florida and should be bringing in a bunch of rain andwind in the next few days. That might keep the rioters/looters from organizing anything big.

I live in Dallas...there will be no riots here.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
How are the different news channels reporting it so far? are any saying "I think they will go with guilty" or the other way around?

I have been watching MSNBC today just to see what they were saying and they are being rather mum on the whole subject. There was a "legal analyst" that commented on the trial proceedings that felt that the prosecution had not poked any holes in GZ's account of self-defense, but that is pretty much the strongest statement made.

On Topic -

George Zimmerman thought Trayvon Martin was a criminal...why? Because Trayvon Martin was a teenager, black and looked "thugish" this can be supported by the audio recording of GZ saying "these punks always get away." Why would he need to say those things if he didn't think Trayvon was a criminal? At this point he is advised by the dispatcher NOT TO FOLLOW him.

Now Trayvon has not committed a crime at this point, but GZ assumes he is a criminal so he follows him...most likely Travyon confronted him...as would I and I think a lot of people if they saw someone following them and stalking them with a gun.

A few minutes after that, Trayvon Martin lays on the ground dead because George Zimmerman ASSUMED he was a criminal.

Hello guys,

I realize that this is a very long thread and I'm sure the link is in here somewhere.. but.. does anyone have a link to the live feed that everyone has been watching?

reply to post by Wookiep


Here ya go
Just about to begin again

Originally posted by Wookiep
Hello guys,

I realize that this is a very long thread and I'm sure the link is in here somewhere.. but.. does anyone have a link to the live feed that everyone has been watching?

edit on 12-7-2013 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)

Live stream

Live blog at bottom.

I have a question for those ATSer's who are questioning the use of "emotions" by lawyers in a CLOSING ARGUEMENT-

Is this the first time you have watched a trial?

Closing arguments are whatever the attorney's want to say, and "facts" or lack of them, doesn't matter.

It's Basic Lawyering 101, to attempt to appeal to the jurors emotions during closing arguments.