The Darker Side of Abductions.

I'm a strong believer in the animal abduction phenomenon, I've looked at the evidence and with the injuries to some of these animals and what some witnesses have said, there's got to be a lot to the this story. Additionally, if anyone is looking for a place to start in the subject, then I would recommend these vids





Now logically thinking, if animals are being taken, would it be safe to assume that people are also? Not trying to scare anyone here but chances are yes. I accidentally found this video tonight and I'm impressed with the cases mentioned, particularly the story involving the "crashed" B-52 during the Vietnam war and the guy whose body was missed by search teams on several occasions.

Apparently this guy is an ex-cop and current MUFON investigator and seems to know his business. One of the most valid points to this phenomenon is that after all explanations an amazing 30,000 people completely disappear in the States each year, add the world figures onto that and I'd imagine there's some pretty staggering numbers in there. This lecture is definitely worth a watch for those interested in the abduction phenomenon









And apologies if posted before because if it was, I couldn't find it

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Now logically thinking, if animals are being taken, would it be safe to assume that people are also

That would assume that cattle mutilations are the result of aliens, I personally think that cattle mutilations are a mixture of predator/scavenger and the government testing for radiation, oil, and other contaminants.

I have read of a case where aliens were seen abducting a cow(it was in a book but I cant find the story on the internet so I don't know its credibility)

Originally posted by grey9438
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Now logically thinking, if animals are being taken, would it be safe to assume that people are also

That would assume that cattle mutilations are the result of aliens, I personally think that cattle mutilations are a mixture of predator/scavenger and the government testing for radiation, oil, and other contaminants.

I have read of a case where aliens were seen abducting a cow(it was in a book but I cant find the story on the internet so I don't know its credibility)

edit on 28-5-2013 by grey9438 because: (no reason given)

There's actually been a few cases where animals/people have been seen being "pulled" into crafts by some kind of beam, there's a case mentioned by the former police officer above and also, I think, there's a mention of that in the Linda Moulton Howe doc regarding cattle.

Apparently scavengers will not touch animals that have been abducted, also if it were the government, why would they drain the animal of ALL it's blood?

Originally posted by grey9438

That would assume that cattle mutilations are the result of aliens, I personally think that cattle mutilations are a mixture of predator/scavenger and the government testing for radiation, oil, and other contaminants.

I have read of a case where aliens were seen abducting a cow(it was in a book but I cant find the story on the internet so I don't know its credibility)

edit on 28-5-2013 by grey9438 because: (no reason given)

you are incorrect and really need to look into a subject before forming an educated opinion imo

first off, it is not 'cattle mutilations'; it is now called animals abductions and mutilations because of the large number of animals taken and their sudden and inexplicable deaths which are not from any known predator, radiation, or government conspiracy.

i know. i saw them..cats, chickens, horses..none were due to predators, it would have been physically impossible. i have read many stories of dogs being killed or vanishing in the 'lights'; also them being burned, etc.

if ms. howe is not your cup of tea then google the APFU and phil hoyle in the uk, where they have had a rash of horse deaths, coincidentially around the same time as multiple ufo sightings

thanks to the poster for bringing this important and often overlooked aspect of the visitors and their intentions

reply to post by Zcustosmorum

also if it were the government, why would they drain the animal of ALL it's blood?

Possibly they are trying to make it look like aliens are doing it in order to try to throw people off their tests because if there was radiation in the food people would panic.
An interesting case was something called project gas buggy which took place near Dulce New Mexico, where the United States Atomic Energy Commission detonated underground nukes.
en.wikipedia.org...
Now that area is full of cattle mutilations, possibly it is government tests for radiation and they make it resemble alien activities because of claims that there is an alien base in Dulce

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you are incorrect and really need to look into a subject before forming an educated opinion

I have done much research on animal mutilations and abductions (this is why I said I think it from multiple causes, though I don't think that cults have anything to do with it)
Now ufos have been seen before cattle mutilations and several mutilations do defy explanation those may be the result of alien research, but several could have been caused by scalpels and those may have a more human cause behind them.

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from all that i've read and heard, what i consider to be the dark side of alien abductions.
is the act of anal probing. why would a alien race be so fascinated with our anuses?

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
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from all that i've read and heard, what i consider to be the dark side of alien abductions.
is the act of anal probing. why would a alien race be so fascinated with our anuses?

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I just hope they wash the probe before they get near me.

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Z, good thread mate and the work of the British APFU is most certainly worth a look - that Butch Wikowski video is also a very interesting watch but with regards to the Guarapiranga case Armap has done some great translation work on this thread and it looks like the poor man's death could well be terrestrial in nature.
Cheers.

Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by Zcustosmorum

 

Z, good thread mate and the work of the British APFU is most certainly worth a look - that Butch Wikowski video is also a very interesting watch but with regards to the Guarapiranga case Armap has done some great translation work on this thread and it looks like the poor man's death could well be terrestrial in nature.
Cheers.

That was probably the first human mutilation case I heard of and of course it's possible it's a terrestrial death, there's still a lot of missing people to be accounted for though. Thanks for the update on thread

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Is there room for a thread about the lighter side of abductions? The ransom of Red Chief comes to mind.

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Why couldnt this have been done by plain old human type people?

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Wouldnt one think vampire before alien? Just sayin...... If we're going off the deep end here why not jump in the right pool.

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Its a case of anal opticitis. When your optic nerve gets tied up with the anus. It gives one a $hitty outlook on life. They are looking for the cure.

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Dont worry, they have disposable sleeves like the thermometers in the hospital. Everyone gets a fresh probe. It would be pretty crappy if they didnt. LOL.

Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by Zcustosmorum

 

Why couldnt this have been done by plain old human type people?

I would recommend you watch the lectures/docs before commenting

Originally posted by grey9438
reply to post by Zcustosmorum

 

Now logically thinking, if animals are being taken, would it be safe to assume that people are also

That would assume that cattle mutilations are the result of aliens, I personally think that cattle mutilations are a mixture of predator/scavenger and the government testing for radiation, oil, and other contaminants.

I have read of a case where aliens were seen abducting a cow(it was in a book but I cant find the story on the internet so I don't know its credibility)

edit on 28-5-2013 by grey9438 because: (no reason given)

The missing eyeballs, missing tongues, radiation, all sound similar to the death of the 9 Russian Hikers during the Dyatlov Pass Incident.
They were found with no other footprints but their own, organs/bones crushed by massive force, eyeballs missing, extreme radiation, and the locals nearby know not to approach the mountain because they often see strange lights, and have reported seeing lights on the night of the incident.

Here is a video to the story :

www.youtube.com...

Something sinister is going on. This could explain the Ufo secrecy the truth is so shocking that public cant be told. The US ex cop made good point these Aliens if they have been here for thousands of years why would they be interested in disecting people to study us.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
Something sinister is going on. This could explain the Ufo secrecy the truth is so shocking that public cant be told. The US ex cop made good point these Aliens if they have been here for thousands of years why would they be interested in disecting people to study us.

It's not a good point. First of all, it assumes that there has been only one species of aliens that has been abducting humans for many centuries. Several different species have been reported and there might have been far more in the past before abduction cases began to be regarded as due to aliens and were investigated systematically.

Secondly, the purpose of the mutilations/abductions is not merely to dissect people but to take genetic samples - perhaps as part of an ongoing study in how DNA gets modified over time - or - if Linda Moulton Howe is right - to create alien/human hybrids (that's what some abductees claim aliens tell them).

The ex cop makes the point in order to avoid the alien theory of animal and human mutilation. It simply does not stand up to scrutiny as a valid argument.

Originally posted by peashooter

Originally posted by grey9438
reply to post by Zcustosmorum

 

Now logically thinking, if animals are being taken, would it be safe to assume that people are also

That would assume that cattle mutilations are the result of aliens, I personally think that cattle mutilations are a mixture of predator/scavenger and the government testing for radiation, oil, and other contaminants.

I have read of a case where aliens were seen abducting a cow(it was in a book but I cant find the story on the internet so I don't know its credibility)

edit on 28-5-2013 by grey9438 because: (no reason given)

The missing eyeballs, missing tongues, radiation, all sound similar to the death of the 9 Russian Hikers during the Dyatlov Pass Incident.
They were found with no other footprints but their own, organs/bones crushed by massive force, eyeballs missing, extreme radiation, and the locals nearby know not to approach the mountain because they often see strange lights, and have reported seeing lights on the night of the incident.

Here is a video to the story :

www.youtube.com...

edit on 30-5-2013 by peashooter because: (no reason given)

Heard about that incident a few years ago and it reminded of an incident in the UK (in the 70's I think) in which a whole group of horses had been mangled as if dropped from a height in the middle of nowhere, possible connection?

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And if we are to believe that the mutilation phenomenon is genuine, then I think the idea of different races visiting here, may be a good one