Thousands of Muslims gather in London to condemn murder of soldier Lee Rigby

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by xavi1000
I think not , Nefermore is owned by the facts in this thread ... 125 muslim flags are irelevant , it's time to unflag this thread.

125 flags but where are those people in this thread?

It could be that people are "flagging" the thread to point out just how inane the OP premise it.

Or it's to show that not everyone is as easily programmed by the MSM like a few of you.

Dude, regardless of how evil MSM are or are purported to be, they didn't author that clip where that muslim dude is holding a meat cleaver in his bloodied hands and goes about explaining why he absolutely, positively, necessarily had to make a shish-kebab out of this British soldier. I have no clue what "programming" you hint is contained in this. Is MSM running a marketing campaign for some kitchen appliance company? You lost me here.

When I see a murderous POS, I call him a murderous POS. Get off you high horse, you look tired.

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


I think it was a relevant example of showing how Islam is more aggressive than say Buddhism or Hinduism. Simples

reply to post by MrConspiracy

You say this:

It's not about clumping people together in to one big group.

Then you say this:

It's noticing a pattern of disrespect from groups of Muslims who seem to hate the UK so bad but yet stay here. There is no justification for burning poppies and vandalizing war memorials. None whatsoever. And like i said before spray painting ISLAM over a war memorial in London is 1) using their religion in their crime 2) showing no respect to the country in which they CHOOSE to live in.

Crime is crime.

Agreed

It's not about being Muslim until those taking part MAKE it about being a Muslim.

And if people who are not Muslims do the same thing?

Over here in America - people sometimes burn flags. That's free speech - and unless your country is that much different from ours - destroying poppies would be the same thing. Disrespectful? Yeah, maybe - though not everyone sees it the same way. Against the law? I should hope not

People spray paint all kinds of messages - everywhere. Vandalism is an issue for everyone - and there are many different kinds of groups that do it. We have environmental groups over here, and there was one that tried to make a statement by burning down a whole mountain

If crime is crime - why make it about the Muslims? Are those crimes the only ones that bother you?[

Originally posted by buster2010
So you post a video by one of the biggest racist aholes on youtube. That guy is half past crazy and well on the way to insane.

That would make him a sage, perhaps.

He mentions RIOTS following that Danish cartoon, well, we all know the story. I don't see Muslims RIOT because Theo van Gogh is slaughtered and and I don't see Muslims RIOT when Lee Rigby is sliced up in broad daylight. Am I blind or insane?

Phew.

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Maybe we are all insane for having an opinion

I've seen a few posts saying if a 'white' person was to murder it would be covered up and nothing made of it. Who has been on the front of the national newspapers whilst several pedophile gangs (of Muslim origin) don't get any publicity? That's it, one 'white' pedophile.... but of course, whatever cap fits....

I think that is the problem with this argument to be honest, for every good or bad thing on one side, you could bring several out for the other. It shouldn't be about 'who is the best' or 'I've got the biggest wotsit'... it should be race, religion and culture standing together and condemning this hideous act against an innocent man in cold blood.

You can thrown several wars, just and unjust from days gone by but is that really relevant? Does that make me want to love or hate a certain person, culture or religion? Not really.... but those of feeble mind will use it as ammunition to make such horrifying heinous acts acceptable in today's society.

As a British man, who loves my country and the diverse population... I think we all need to step back and ask ourselves, what do we really want?

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


And here in America, what would be the charge if someone spray painted a swastika on a WWII memorial? Or burned a cross in front of a black church?

Mere vandalism?

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Black_Fox
OK
Let me see,Islam/Muslims are bad?
The religion is violent and evil?

Lets see here.
What does the bible have to say,I gotta think its's a peaceful,loving book.

Exodus 31:15
15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.

When you can direct me to a video on Youtube of a Christian who has beheaded a Muslim quoting the Bible, then get back to me.

Hmmm I dont know.......
Let me see if i can satisfy you.

Bush Told Chirac Iraq Invasion Was About Biblical Prophecy


Does God Talk to Bush?


Well theres some videos of a president,who went to WAR,partly because it was "prophecy".
Which resulted in untold thousands,if not millions of lives lost.
And that may not be a beheading video,but dropping bombs on people does the same trick.

And theres this....

Violence against Muslim woman in Christian/Atheist country


Muslim Cab Driver Attacked


But again,this only points out what some people can do.
It does not define everyone.
Those who behead people,are violent people,by THEIR choice.
What leads these people to do this?
Choice.
Dosent matter if its in the name of religion or politics,in the end,its just an excuse,

reply to post by ollncasino


This tired old thing - again? I haven't been keeping up - have you also trotted out those photos of angry Muslim mobs - the ones you use over and over again - in all of these threads - those same 10-12 guys?

Racist is as racist does ollncasino. We calls it as we sees it sometimes - tough luck

Or - is that not politically correct? I know what a stickler you are about all that

:-)

I think most here have got your number you know - and those that think you're just smart?

Well - what can I say? I wish people would think more and follow less - but I wish for a lot of things - don't I?

reply to post by neformore


It's a bit late now for them to do this.

They need to be rooting out such behavior and not endorsing it in the first place.

Also people need to be aware there such a thing in the Islamic code of lying to 'unbelievers' without it being sinful.

Originally posted by MrConspiracy
reply to post by neformore

 

Who's being dumb? I don't see anyone on this thread saying 'i blame all Muslims' I think it opens up the issue of Islam in the UK. And in my honest opinion, it's an issue that needs to be sorted out. Because as it stands there is a lot of unspoken hate between a lot of people and a lot of it is to do with cultural and religious differences.

Do i agree that this should be the case? No. Do i blame Muslims entirely? No. But you can't keep saying 'But it's not all Muslims!' because nobody said it was. But it doesn't cover up the fact that there's an issue.

I like your icon btw xD

Look when you have a group that breeds like rabbits, occupies areas of Europe and are NOT even the slightest bit anything to do with Europe that is a big problem and fortunately people are waking up to it.

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis

Racist is as racist does ollncasino. We calls it as we sees it sometimes - tough luck.

If we can put the political correctness, that has served only to stifle legitimate debate, aside for a moment, can we agree that a number of Muslims in the UK are accurately described as extremists?

MI5 has estimated that up to 4,000 British Muslims had travelled to Pakistan and, before the fall of the Taliban, to Afghanistan for military training.

The Independent

British Muslims 'fighting with Taliban in Afghanistan'

The Taliban troop with an east London cab driver in its ranks

British Muslims have become a mainstay of the global 'jihad'

reply to post by neformore


You know neformore - it's never ending:
www.channel4.com...

Different flavor - same thing

Turns my stomach - nothing left for us to do but keep speaking out against this sort of thing whenever and however we can

reply to post by ollncasino


Save it for someone who might actually respect you ollncasino

You and I are not debating this - not anymore

There are plenty of other people that might still be interested in your nonsense - from now on all you get from me is derision

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


You clearly haven't lived with the gypsies (Roms) that are in Eastern Europe. You would then understand why many anti gypsy parties are emerging in places like Bulgaria, Czech republic, in Slovakia it is Slovenska Pospolitost, Romania, Croatia etc. They are not the travellers you are used to in the UK.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
The the day will come when you no longer have freedom of religion, freedom of speech, right to bear arms etc. because under Sharia law that is all forbidden for nonmuslim, and what you people are not getting is that when they establish that global Caliphate, you will obey Sharia even if you don't believe what they do or you will die. Go read the Quran for God's sake.

I'm sorry, but you must not know me that well. That day will never come for me.

They may kill me, but they will never subdue me. That goes for whatever "they" you think is coming for me. Even the Westboro loons.

BTW, I HAVE read the Qur'an. It's not much different from the Bible in a certain respect - you have to read the surrounding verses for context, and use other verses to illuminate what you are reading. Just as in the Bible, none of it stands alone, and just as with the Bible, people will take things out of context and twist the meaning to suit their own agenda. Atheists vs. the Bible is a prime example.

Just as the Bible says to "rightly divide the word of God", you cannot read ANYTHING for understanding without reading it with a critical eye and comparing different sections to illuminate one another. None of it stands alone.

Originally posted by 2ndthought
reply to post by Spiramirabilis

 

And here in America, what would be the charge if someone spray painted a swastika on a WWII memorial? Or burned a cross in front of a black church?

Mere vandalism?

Are you incapable of understanding the point of all this?

Crime - is crime. Why single out the Muslims?

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis

You and I are not debating this - not anymore

What are your thoughts on the Taliban claiming that British Muslims are their greatest source of funding?

The Taliban has claimed that Britain is its greatest source of revenue and the group is funded by donations in mosques and Muslim community centres around the country.

A Taliban commander told Sky News "We get donations from our Muslim brothers in Britain for jihad and they help us. It is the duty of all Muslims to pay towards fighting a jihad. And this is how we get our money and buy our weapons and carry on fighting.”

Taliban: 'Britain is our greatest source of funding'

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