Gun Control advocates and socialists/communists are insane

Most people agree that insanity implies doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results each time.

But to be more thorough heres the actual definition.

www.merriam-webster.com...

": a deranged state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder (as schizophrenia)
2
: such unsoundness of mind or lack of understanding as prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or as removes one from criminal or civil responsibility
3
a : extreme folly or unreasonableness
b : something utterly foolish or unreasonable

Therefore, strict gun control laws have never reduced violence or gun crime. In fact the actual stats suggest otherwise.

Likewise, socialism and communism have never resulted in some utopia. The death toll from previous attempts goes well beyond 200 million. Just in recent history.

Therefore, those advocating strict gun control laws or socialism/communism are insane and if mental health is the issue than many of them therefor shall surrender their own right to bare arms according to their own standards.

If thats not the case, then indeed they are just liars and hypocrites.
I rest my case.

I must admit I am a bit puzzled that people who do not trust the government due to the overreaching patriot act, GIMTO, rendition, waterboarding, fear a theocracy, corporate takeover, or whatever the issue turn around and trust that very same government to take care of them when they are disarmed.

More gun propaganda? Really??

Ok ATS is going down the toilet, again.

Originally posted by Jefferton
More gun propaganda? Really??

Ok ATS is going down the toilet, again.

Don't blame ATS if you want to vilify anyone the current administration is the culprit all they had to do is keep their mouth shut instead of recycling 50 year anti gun talking points.

Doing the same thing over and over again... like believing your guns protect your freedoms? How's that Patriot Act going? Your guns stopped that, right?

reply to post by DaTroof


Yeah doing the same thing over and over again ban gun, ban guns, for an act that is already illegal that does not stop it.

Insanity.

I am a gun control advocate.

And your making this thread will not make me change my mind 1 bit.

However it will attract other 'gun control non-advocate' to join you in proving how 'gun control advocates' are stupid.
It will also help you feel secure that there are others supporting you.

If that's what you really wanted, continue.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by DaTroof

 

Yeah doing the same thing over and over again ban gun, ban guns, for an act that is already illegal that does not stop it.

Insanity.

Your guns stopped us from invading Iraq, right? Your guns stopped TSA from fondling your toddler, right? Don't pretend that guns have actually accomplished anything you claim they're for.

reply to post by DaTroof


Really now if the government is so bloody evil what gives them the right to dictate what arms we can own?

When that same government gives those same weapons denied to us to middle eastern freedom fighter, and dictator alike, and drug cartel.

Originally posted by DaTroof

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by DaTroof

 

Yeah doing the same thing over and over again ban gun, ban guns, for an act that is already illegal that does not stop it.

Insanity.

Your guns stopped us from invading Iraq, right? Your guns stopped TSA from fondling your toddler, right? Don't pretend that guns have actually accomplished anything you claim they're for.

Interesting. I'm failing to see the logic behind "our rights were violated so let's give away more rights."

Gun owners, being by and large reasonable people, still want to use the process to protect rights, with guns as a last resort but a resort that must be maintained. You don't throw out your fire extinguisher because you are using your garden hose to fight the fire at the moment.

Originally posted by shivaX
I am a gun control advocate.

And your making this thread will not make me change my mind 1 bit.

However it will attract other 'gun control non-advocate' to join you in proving how 'gun control advocates' are stupid.
It will also help you feel secure that there are others supporting you.

If that's what you really wanted, continue.

If by stupid meaning that for over 180 years Americans did not have to go through background checks, and beg for government permission to own something that have every right to own

I would say they are.

reply to post by shivaX


Ok you're a gun control advocate.

So let me ask you something. If there is a gun grab are you willing to personally go out and enforce it? If not then you are a coward and no better than any politician. Gun confiscation is insane and also suicidal. So are you willing to enforce it.
How will they enforce a gun grab, with guns right? Do you see the hypocrisy in you're position yet?

Ever bring a knife to a gunfight?

So as I said, are you insane, a liar, a hypocrite or a coward or all of the above?
Choose wisely.

Originally posted by DaTroof
Your guns stopped us from invading Iraq, right? Your guns stopped TSA from fondling your toddler, right? Don't pretend that guns have actually accomplished anything you claim they're for.

what a way of thinking

Guns didn't stop TSAs, what does that mean?
You think pro-gun rights advocates are crazy and then you condemn them for.... not being crazy!
what do you want them to show up at airports with guns, are you serious?????

You want them to have guns and stop troops from being deployed overseas???

Are you really serious with your insane examples?

Furthermore owning a gun isn't ONLY about what if a tyrannical govt. takes control
It's also about protecting yourself against others who got guns illegally.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


If anything that is a testament to gun owners their first instinct is not to pick up their "assault weapons" and go kill people.

And then they get vilified for not going around killing people.

Geez..........

If by stupid meaning that for over 180 years Americans did not have to go through background checks, and beg for government permission to own something that have every right to own I would say they are.

reply to post by neo96


Stupid=

1. lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2. characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3. tediously dull, especially due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4. annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5. in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.

Dictionary Meaning Of 'Stupid'

The word 'stupid' has nothing to do with how 'Americans did not have to go through background checks' in the past 180 years.

reply to post by shivaX


Stupid:

Holding a entire countries populace for crimes they have not committed.

Stupid:

Gun control that seeks to disarm the populace to where the criminals, police, and the military is better armed than we are.


Stupid"

Those who seek to make a persons only means of self defense a 9-11 call


Stupid:

Those who tow the party line and says "Government is going to keep them safe".

Originally posted by txinfidel
reply to post by shivaX

 

Ok you're a gun control advocate.

So let me ask you something. If there is a gun grab are you willing to personally go out and enforce it? If not then you are a coward and no better than any politician. Gun confiscation is insane and also suicidal. So are you willing to enforce it.
How will they enforce a gun grab, with guns right? Do you see the hypocrisy in you're position yet?

Ever bring a knife to a gunfight?

So as I said, are you insane, a liar, a hypocrite or a coward or all of the above?
Choose wisely.

So you term someone as 'insane, a liar, a hypocrite or a coward' based on their 'willingness to enforce a gun grab'?

God Bless You.

reply to post by neo96


Thank you very much for enlightening me.

You completely changed my life.

Your description is of highest quality and you are a true master .

Thanks once again for your definition on 'stupid' makes me wonder about the gun control once again.

reply to post by shivaX


Gun control advocates show who their master is.

Thanks.

reply to post by shivaX


You did not answer any of my questions.
You are not willing to enforce a gun grab. I suppose all gun owners will just turn them in willingly then huh?

You are entitled to your own opinion. Funny that you dont have the conviction to back any of it up.