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Originally posted by nixie_nox
I am taking real issue with this gun stance that "if only the teachers had guns".
It is abusing the heroic efforts of these teachers. They gave their lives, and protected those babies, dozens and hundreds of them.
They each saved dozens of children, without guns.
So instead of ignoring the heroic efforts of these teachers, who pulled it off under terrifying conditions,using it for your anti-gun control propaganda, focus on how their efforts made a difference. Instead on how we can improve their practises.
Because they managed to save all those students..... without guns.
Originally posted by SpearMint
Originally posted by Lonewulph
Originally posted by SpearMint
Would make a lot more sense to remove the guns he used, which were LEGALLY owned by his mother.
Sounds great on paper, but it would only postpone his determination to ultimately achieve what he wants.
(sorry op I think this might turn in to a gun debate despite your request )edit on 18-12-2012 by Lonewulph because: (no reason given)
These things are very rarely planned, they're an impulse thing with the weapons at hand. People snap.edit on 18-12-2012 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SpearMint
Originally posted by Lonewulph
Originally posted by SpearMint
Originally posted by Lonewulph
Originally posted by SpearMint
Would make a lot more sense to remove the guns he used, which were LEGALLY owned by his mother.
Sounds great on paper, but it would only postpone his determination to ultimately achieve what he wants.
(sorry op I think this might turn in to a gun debate despite your request )edit on 18-12-2012 by Lonewulph because: (no reason given)
These things are very rarely planned, they're an impulse thing with the weapons at hand.
Pardon? It takes much planning for all of these shooters. Getting the equipment together, loading up on multiple weapons and ammo, killing mom and dad before you head out... their mind is gone and with diligent planing, they will act on that plan. Remember the planning the went into Columbine?
Sorry op, back on topic,... beam me in!edit on 18-12-2012 by Lonewulph because: (no reason given)
No, it really doesn't. People snap for whatever reason and go on a rampage, almost always with a legally owned gun. This is an observed fact. Anyway, I'm not interested in arguing, that's not what the thread was about. This shooting was made possible by legally owned guns and that's indisputable.edit on 18-12-2012 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SpearMint
Would make a lot more sense to remove the guns he used, which were LEGALLY owned by his mother.
Originally posted by Apollo7
reply to post by tjack
I don't know. I don't think Guns are the answer. I think all schools should layer the security in the structure. I mean like bullet proff glass and steel doors etc.. I think this incident is going to change all schools. Maybe the staff should carry weapons. I would work on the structure and security of all schools before I would make a decision on staff carrying guns to work. I feel they need to tear that school down and re-build in another location.
Originally posted by tjack
reply to post by OptimusSubprime
sooooo........yes or no?
(right there with you, btw, and love the avatar) still though
edit on 18-12-2012 by tjack because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by tjack
You don't even have to answer it with a post, just think about it and answer yourself.
If you could snap your fingers, and magically transport a gun through time and into the hands of the principal and/or teachers of Sandy Hook as the tragedy was starting to unfold, "Would you do it?"
Be honest with yourself. Would you?
Thanks in advance for your courtesy.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
I am taking real issue with this gun stance that "if only the teachers had guns".
It is abusing the heroic efforts of these teachers. They gave their lives, and protected those babies, dozens and hundreds of them.
They each saved dozens of children, without guns.
So instead of ignoring the heroic efforts of these teachers, who pulled it off under terrifying conditions,using it for your anti-gun control propaganda, focus on how their efforts made a difference. Instead on how we can improve their practises.
Because they managed to save all those students..... without guns.