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Alex Jones - End of Free Internet, Debunking 2012, Engineered Fiscal Cliff [More...]

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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:52 AM
Found this Youtube video...uploaded Dec. 2, 2012

I found this very interesting and I think that for once he is actually not being a disinfo agent

*Disclaimer: I didn't see this using the search function and also by going into this forum*

On...December 2 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex breaks down the ongoing effort by the international banksters to take down the United States with their relentless economic warfare and long-term effort to consolidate power and foist a centralized globalist government on the nation and the world as a whole.

He talks about the so-called "fiscal cliff" currently under negotiation behind closed doors by the corporatist one party system and what it means to the future of a withering middle class and America as a whole as an engineered astronomical debt piles up and the value of the dollar slides toward the abyss.

edit on 4-12-2012 by Skywatcher2011 because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 11:53 AM
can you briefly explain the video. Can't watch it at the moment.

posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 12:13 PM
So I will be posting section summaries of this video:

The first part summarizes 0 to 16 mins:

Alex Jones states there are many articles circulating over the internet about the world ending on Dec. 21, 2012 where claims are about Nibiru hitting planet Earth. In Alex's view, it won't be Nibiru hitting Earth, it will be the Fiscal Cliff that kills the world

Then he goes on to talk about the end of the free internet is here now. He claims the Cybersecurity Act is similar to Russian and Chinese style of censorship. We will also see things like web taxes, web ID, web tracking, and web computer kill used on computers found to hold illegally held copyright data.

Alex also states we are now and have been for some time already under a global governance (ie NWO) and that the Pentagon now works for global banks....hence this is why Obama is pushing the tax agenda, and this is why the Fiscal Cliff will happen whether you like it or not....

More will be posted....

posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 12:33 PM
The show gets more interesting when Alex starts to break down the Fiscal Cliff:

He says globalists have done this in many first and third world countries. Who are the players? They are the central private mega banks that have gotten control over the issuance of currency and credit to themselves. They can release unlimited derivatives and pretty much do whatever they want and therefore get REALLY WEALTHY by putting you and the country in debt and in turn they are tricking you to waive your assets over to them. They give you something and then they take it away!

What does this mean for the American economy? Right now the US is in huge debt. So, the world banks want Obama to raise taxes..this will literally destroy the US economy. If Obama doesn't do this, the banks will not bail out the US economy from its creditors like China.

On a side note, Alex states that Obama's fiscal cliff proposal is a classic "bait and switch" on the American people. In other words, the FC will include:
- a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on ($1.6 trillion)
- billions of dollars in new stimulus spending
- Obama wanting unlimited/unchecked authority to borrow from the Chinese

Now...there is the proposal of having a 1-2 year retroactive 5-10% tax increase on households making $250k or more a year. Ie. Each spouse is making $125k on average per year which is not much in this economy.

So the plot of the FC is that the government wants the economy and people to collapse financially so that they can be on welfare and that businesses will have to be dependent on government subsidies (new stimulus spending) while the country is in recession, and those who wrote the regulations to be exempt from tax increases. Moreover, this is turning into a mafia form of government.

The worst financial news is the fact that Obama wants absolute power over congress to increase national debt. However, in political news, you have UN and NATO commanding the US military (so it is not run by Obama), and Obama is shutting nuclear power plants not owned by General Electric or coal power plant companies.

More to come....
edit on 4-12-2012 by Skywatcher2011 because: added notes

posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 06:52 PM
Sorry for the late continuation of the video.....had to leave the office for a bit:

Alex Jones continues the show by saying that secret arrests without warrants are happening called "black bagging". That said, he claims the NDAA Act allows the federal government to kidnap people and make them disappear without any charge or due process and ultimately taken to torture centers (Bengazi Center) for questioning

Moreover, he claims the CIA is run by foreign banks and therefore the CIA is no longer American owned and operated

He then segues into his next topic about using drones as a "robot centry" which will allow for the conditioning mechanisms for the elite to spy on the US citizens. He gives a great example of the Black Ops 2 Drone which was sold to people in a care package. When people get used to drones as being friendly, they will see US drones in the sky as friendly.

Furthermore, he argues the fact how the US government did not helps its citizens when hurricane Sandy hit New York/Jersey and previous disasters and that FEMA actually ran out of water supply, electricity supply (which to date electricity is still off for more than a million people right now), and the Red Cross is slow to react to these disasters because of spending/funding cuts from the government.....

More to continue...

posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 06:54 PM
Alex Jones mixes his conspiracies the way I mix my vodka. Start with the good stuff and then add whatever the Hell happens to be in the fridge.

Sometimes it seems to work, other times, not so much. The other thing in common with Jones and my vodka experiences? Regurgitation


posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:05 PM
In the show, Alex discusses his following of the architecture of the internet for over 17 years. He states he:
- reads what DARPA is putting out to congressional level committees that is restrictive in nature but NOT classified
- reads white papers put out by global consortiums of government and academia
- follows UN statements in their policy meetings
- follows text of Global Copyright Act, Global Cyber Security Act, Domestic Cyber Security Act and its integration with the Global Cyber Security Act.

He tries to relate his wealth of internet research to his next point about Eisenhower and his prediction into the future.
From Info Wars:

Eisenhower warned that the influence of the military-industrial complex was “economic, political, even spiritual” and that it was “felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government.” He exhorted Americans to break away from our reliance on military might as a guarantor of liberty and “use our power in the interests of world peace and human betterment.”

On this score, Eisenhower may well have seen today’s America as losing the battle against the darker aspects of the military-industrial complex. He was no pacifist, but he was a lifelong opponent of what he called a “garrison state,” in which policy and rights are defined by the shadowy needs of an all-powerful military elite.

Additional inference on this video:

So why did he bring this topic into his discussion about cyber security and threat?

Because Eisenhower warned us about what he described as a threat to DEMOCRATIC government (ex. Obama administration)...he called it the Military-Industrial Complext (MIC - a union of defense contractors and armed forces ie. the technical elite (world banks) controlling the MIC and creating a new civilization behind American national defense and totally destroying our free society...and this was said by Eisenhower in 1961!

So all this has come true in 50 years....scary thought I think!

posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Hefficide

Alex Jones mixes his conspiracies the way I mix my vodka. Start with the good stuff and then add whatever the Hell happens to be in the fridge.

Sometimes it seems to work, other times, not so much. The other thing in common with Jones and my vodka experiences? Regurgitation


That is one fine (and fantastic) quote- One day I will steal it (you can be sure of this...)

Ah. Alex Jones , where to eve begin. I think your stellar quote really sums it up.

posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:14 PM
To summarize the above, Alex states:
- you have the MIC run by foreign banks
- Pentagon, DARPA, ICAN and the DNS registry that the US created through their advanced research labs in the 60's are being used for the internet
- the internet was established as a full surveillance grid used to predict the future
- therefore the Elite have the power to use the internet as their own tool for whatever use they want (ie. surveillance, knowledge deletion and creation)

He states the internet is dangerous because once your information has been uploaded into the cloud and no longer is the original data on your computer, the data you uploaded therefore no longer belongs to you (ie. no longer your property). It shows the Elite that you are not trusted or responsible to keep your data on your computer

So now with your IP address for your internet your ID is being tracked on the internet. If you upload something the Elite consider "Not good" you will get flagged and possibly banned from using the internet. In the US if someone claims you have uploaded something bad 3 times that is NOT your own data, you will get banned from using the internet. In other words, banned from living.

After this, Alex brings up how the internet world is changing against you and showing news article headlines as follows (see video for source of news):

1) "UN to seek control of the internet" Nov. 2012
2) "Russia demands broad UN role in Net governance, leak reveals" Nov. 2012
3) "Russians back down from leaked UN internet proposal" Nov. 2012
4) "UN calls for 'anti-terror' internet surveillance" Oct. 2012

#4 article leads to the idea of restricting free speech...

More info to follow....

posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:37 PM
So back to the whole internet take-over by the UN....

The UN desperately wants to control the internet and to kill DNS's where your website cannot be accessed by its name (ex. is a prison planet like in the comic books of Judge Dredd which were published in the 70's...identical world in the book and what life is like now!

Therefore, the UN wants to build a prison planet and this is where Alex think we are directly headed. Moreover, the UN members will decide what will be taken off the internet and there is already criticism to remove any bashing of the Islam religion right off the internet. So once again, there goes your free speech!

Here is a copy of the news can read it below:
Nov 26, 2012

U.N. to Seek Control of the Internet

Next week the United Nations' International Telecommunications Union will meet in Dubai to figure out how to control the Internet. Representatives from 193 nations will attend the nearly two week long meeting, according to news reports.

"Next week the ITU holds a negotiating conference in Dubai, and past months have brought many leaks of proposals for a new treaty. U.S. congressional resolutions and much of the commentary, including in this column, have focused on proposals by authoritarian governments to censor the Internet. Just as objectionable are proposals that ignore how the Internet works, threatening its smooth and open operations," reports the Wall Street Journal.

"Having the Internet rewired by bureaucrats would be like handing a Stradivarius to a gorilla. The Internet is made up of 40,000 networks that interconnect among 425,000 global routes, cheaply and efficiently delivering messages and other digital content among more than two billion people around the world, with some 500,000 new users a day. ...

"Proposals for the new ITU treaty run to more than 200 pages. One idea is to apply the ITU's long-distance telephone rules to the Internet by creating a 'sender-party-pays' rule. International phone calls include a fee from the originating country to the local phone company at the receiving end. Under a sender-pays approach, U.S.-based websites would pay a local network for each visitor from overseas, effectively taxing firms such as Google and Facebook.

The idea is technically impractical because unlike phone networks, the Internet doesn't recognize national borders. But authoritarians are pushing the tax, hoping their citizens will be cut off from U.S. websites that decide foreign visitors are too expensive to serve."

Arthur Herman explains "The UN's Internet Grab" here.

And even Google has already come out against the ITU.

"The ITU is the wrong place to make decisions about the future of the Internet," says Google. "Only governments have a voice at the ITU. This includes governments that do not support a free and open Internet. Engineers, companies, and people that build and use the web have no vote."

"The ITU is also secretive. The treaty conference and proposals are confidential," adds Google.

So what is the above article about? In English, it says:

- the internet will be handed over to the UN and the member Nations will decide what's taken down.
- internet taxes and new regulations are coming up and the controls
- and "Chinese style censorship" which is what the Cyber Security Act would do but Congress wouldn't pass it because it did restrict free speech.

So Alex states that Obama won't let Congress and even the intelligence committee see his secret cyber security order that he signed in secret and will be handing over the order to the UN. Can you believe this President????

edit on 4-12-2012 by Skywatcher2011 because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 04:29 PM
This sounds like exactly what AJ was saying for the two years I was a listener, so either he's ALWAYS been right, or this is also a whole lot of nothing.

posted on Dec, 6 2012 @ 04:47 PM
reply to post by Kolya

or this is also a whole lot of nothing.

I would go with this one...

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