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economist Ben Stein joined Fox & Friends on Thursday where he stunned the hosts after he called for raising the tax rates on people making more than $2 million per year. He said that he did not think that the United States simply had a spending problem, and cited the early post-war period as an example of a time when you could have high tax rates and high growth. "I hate to say this on Fox -- I hope I'll be allowed to leave here alive -- but I don't think there is any way we can cut spending enough to make a meaningful difference," said Stein. "We're going to have to raise taxes on very, very rich people. People with incomes of, say, $2, $3, $4 million a year and up. And then slowly, slowly, slowly move it down. $250,000 a year, that's not a rich person." Stein said that the government has a spending problem, but they also have a "too low taxes problem." "With all due respect to Fox, who I love like brothers and sisters, taxes are too low," said Stein. "That sounds like Bowles-Simpson," said Gretchen Carlson. "It is Bowles-Simpson," Stein replied. "The evidence is that there is no clear connection between the level of taxation and the level of economic activity," said Stein. "The biggest growth and prosperity we've ever had in this country was from roughly 1941 to 1973. That was the best years we've ever had and those were years of much higher taxes than we have now." "Taxes were at 70, 80 percent then," said Steve Doocy. "And yet, we were very prosperous," Stein replied. "The highest rate was in the 90s during parts of the 50s, and yet we were very prosperous."
Bill O'Reilly was taken bey surprise when his conservative guests - including Ben Stein - strongly disagreed with the idea that president Obama was a negative force in the American economy and that taxing the rich is a bad idea. The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur explains.
Economist Ben Stein tells CNN's Brooke Baldwin that raising taxes on millionaires is fair and necessary to avoid default.
STEIN:We cannot run these enormous deficits forever and the best place to get them on is who have lots of it and that would be very rich people.
BALDWIN: I also want to talk though also about how the IRS, you know, breaks pays what in taxes, because we keep hearing that the majority of Americans, they pay, take a look at the chart with me. They pay 15 percent or less, so the poor and the very rich, right, the folks on the opposite end of the spectrum, they get the breaks. But the folks who are paying the higher rate are those who are the middle to upper middle range. Not the wealthy, not the poor, probably a lot of people watching. The Buffett rule wouldn't affect them, so what's the solution?
STEIN: Well, I'm sorry to say the solution would be to raise taxes on almost everyone and at this point, we have roughly 50 percent of the population in the labor work force not paying any federal income tax. They should pay at least a little something so they have skin in the game. Look, we are running deficits on a scale, which is unheard of except during World War II. We just can't keep doing it. We have been running a low tax society living in a dream world for a long, long time now. That's got to stop. We have to live in the real world. We're not little children. We're grownups, we have to act like grownups and we have to pay more taxes if we want to spend more money. If they want to drastically cut entitlements then they can spend less money, but -- and won't have to raise taxes, but we're not going to do that.
BALDWIN: So these are all ideas posed by -- different ideas posed by whatever side of the political aisle you find yourself, but all this posturing and pontificating in Washington haven't gone very far, in terms of you know, concrete issues, right? So when you look at the brinkmanship in Washington, are you confident there will be real tax reform, or will we have to wait until after November?
STEIN: I think we're going to have to wait until doomsday. I mean, neither side is even close to facing reality in this situation. We have some very, very smart economists in this country who have made calculations that show we simply cannot avoid default unless we have mammoth inflation that washes away the debt. But then washes away everyone's savings so we have to do something quite drastic and I don't see any sign of Congress doing that. They're just nibbling at the edges when they do anything at all. We're really heading towards a very difficult spot here.
BALDWIN: I don't like words like that, Mr. Stein.
STEIN: I don't like it, either.
Originally posted by Taiyed
reply to post by newcovenant
Ben Stein is an old school Republican, not an extreme tea partier.
Unfortunately, honest and logical talk like this will be attacked by the new extreme Republican party. They will call him names, bash him, and turn on him faster than they did Colin Powell after he endorsed Obama.
It's scary really, it's a total "If you aren't with us, you are against us" mentality.
"The evidence is that there is no clear connection between the level of taxation and the level of economic activity," said Stein. "The biggest growth and prosperity we've ever had in this country was from roughly 1941 to 1973. That was the best years we've ever had and those were years of much higher taxes than we have now."
Originally posted by Taiyed
reply to post by newcovenant
Yes, it is very sad when Palin and Trump are viewed by the Republican base as the smart ones.
And Colin Powell and Ben Stein are viewed as "traitors".
Taxing the wealthy at the same exact rate as the middle class is not a solution to paying down the debt. That is what you are trying to make it out to be.
Originally posted by Taiyed
reply to post by jibeho
OH, well if you say so, then I guess Ben Stein (a respected economic mind) is just wrong.
I'm sure you have credentials that match or exceed Mr Steins, right? Could we hear what those credentials are?
“I’m very sorry for what happened. I thought something had to be done on the fiscal cliff before the election,” Clinton told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, referring to comments he made this week suggesting the Bush tax cuts should be extended - something Obama vehemently opposes. “I support [Obama’s] position [on the Bush tax cuts], and I think on the merits, upper-income people will have to contribute to long-term debt reduction.”
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Last week, Clinton praised Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s record as “sterling” - a comment that was followed with an appearance on CNBC in which he claimed the economy was “in recession” and that delaying changes in the Bush tax cuts was “probably the best thing to do right now.”