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Originally posted by adeclerk
Originally posted by TKDRL
There have been plenty of unexplainable implants to name just one direction to look.......
If that were true, the whole of science would be turned upon it's head. Why hasn't the scientific community taken notice?
Be easy.
Originally posted by TKDRL
The same reason science #s on evidence that proves humans were here a lot longer then our science tells us maybe?
Originally posted by TKDRL
It gets buried and ridiculed in mainstream science.
Originally posted by trysts
Originally posted by adeclerk
Originally posted by TKDRL
There have been plenty of unexplainable implants to name just one direction to look.......
If that were true, the whole of science would be turned upon it's head. Why hasn't the scientific community taken notice?
Be easy.
Oops! It looks like you just made the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority. lol
Be easy
Originally posted by adeclerk
Originally posted by trysts
Originally posted by adeclerk
Originally posted by TKDRL
There have been plenty of unexplainable implants to name just one direction to look.......
If that were true, the whole of science would be turned upon it's head. Why hasn't the scientific community taken notice?
Be easy.
Oops! It looks like you just made the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority. lol
Be easy
How? By pointing out that scientists would be studying such a phenomenon if it were extant, since it would literally change a large portion of our scientific knowledge?
Think about the waves that the possible discovery of the Higgs-boson is causing, evidence of a true extraterrestrial implant would be similar.
Peace and truth, brother.
Originally posted by adeclerk
Originally posted by Orkojoker
Here's a long set of interviews by a number of people who know much more about these claims than the average person does.
An appeal to authority followed by using a youtube video as evidence does not make up for the lack of a single piece of verifiable evidence that an "abductee" has ever left this planet. Modern forensics can detect chemicals that came from a bullet's cartridge under a suspect's fingernail and yet no physical evidence for the existence of alien visitors or abductors has ever been recovered. Seems a little suspect.
Be easy.
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Originally posted by TKDRL
I pointed you in the right direction. If you choose to follow it up, is totally upon you. Do you care enough to research it? If you do, well then one angle I will point you at is human remains and artifacts found in mines. These mines, the minerals we were taking were far older than humans supposedly, yet we found remains, and evidence of humans.
Originally posted by TKDRL
Honest scientists have had their careers buried for unearthing evidence contrary to what our current science says. This has gone on forever, many of the scientists that we quote as fact today, were shunned and even killed back in the day, for going against the grain at the time.
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
I find it interesting that you make such assumptions. I cannot wear wristwatches or carry mobile phones close to me. They malfunction. Wristwatches quit entirely, the battery drained and the perpetual calendar mysteriously shows a random date at random intervals. How do you explain that?
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
You cannot state the "little things" that I may or may not sense/detect/feel otherwise. You have not done any sort of inquiry. You somehow majestically state what is and what is not from your perch on high. It must be a glorious view you have from there.
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
That was a crash and burn. Wanna try again, with humility and genuine curiosity this time?
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
These experiences cannot be verified.
Originally posted by CosmicEggI could obviously go to have my personal situation explored by some lab somewhere, but I know what happens. I don't care whether others believe it or not. Why in the world would I go out of pocket to have some stuff verified and validated by skeptical dolts who won't believe it anyway? Why in the world would their belief change a thing at all in my world?
Originally posted by CosmicEggYou have every possibility to search out your own evidence.
Originally posted by CosmicEggYou live in this same world. The fact that you have had no such experiences does not mean they don't exist.
Originally posted by CosmicEggThe fact that you choose to ignore those reports by others and relegate them to "fantasy" simply, to me, means that you're of considerably limited intelligence and awareness. Your cognitive skills are lacking.
Originally posted by CosmicEggYou are otherwise a negative and hostile person because you attack those who state things you cannot digest. Sucks to be you.
Originally posted by CosmicEggDon't attack others unless you're prepared to receive the same.
Please show where I have attacked anyone or where I have been hostile. Unless the fact I don't believe in the abduction phenomenon somehow classifies me into the "hostile" group and is considered as an attack on abductees. If that is the case, then you are clearly not mature enough to have this debate.
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Originally posted by CosmicEgg
Right here..
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
Again, why would I trouble myself to satisfy people who are fundamentally doubters rather than people who are much more interesting to me: Experiencers.
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
I am not the least bit interested in people who walk around the planet for decades having the same opportunities to experience things, to observe things, to sense things, and to acknowledge those things rather than shutting off those experiences in favor of artificial "validation" by a set of fellow doubters. Can you see where I'm coming from?
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
Basically, get your own damn experiences. It's not that bloody hard.
I have a whole lot of experiences that I simply cannot relate here, primarily because of the likes of you. There are too many of your kind out there.
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
Again, we who know, know. Those of you who are open to the experiences are still intellectually viable. Those skeptics and doubters...well, I have no time for you.
It's easy to go through your life blinkered. You have that choice. You may feel clever and superior, but that's just your perception. It's by no stretch any sort of truth.
Originally posted by snusfanatic
Even if abduction is something that happens purely in the mind, isn't that still incredibly fascinating? No need to try to out people as frauds, when even discounting aliens, there's still some incredibly interesting things to be learned about the human condition.
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
I have written about the watch previously. I have written about a lot of my experiences previously. You can search them. You love that scientific research and proof stuff. Go find the info!
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
Why would my story about the watch *and the computer* not be sufficient?
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
Do you think I'm going to produce receipts or other physical evidence for you? And really, you want me to seek out some lab somewhere to make measurements and devise test to quantify stuff for you to scrutinize with your razor-sharp mind...eh? Really? Delusions much? You wouldn't know relevant data from hogwash. Obviously.
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
See, this is the thing. I know what I've experienced. I know my family history. I know what I know. Your lack of acceptance of the information imparted by those who know more than you do by virtue of *direct experience* (read that again for impact, please) only points to a deficit of genuine curiosity and observational skills.
Originally posted by CosmicEggIt is neither logical nor rational to doubt the experiences of others simply because you have not experienced the same yourself.
Originally posted by CosmicEggII tell this quite often to doubters: My son is colorblind. He has trouble with reds, greens, and browns. He cannot see pink at all. Depending on its shade he may see a grayish tinge to something, but it will never appear as pink to him. Does this mean pink does not exist? Does he walk around telling people who see pink that they are living in a world of fantasy? Is he gullible if he acknowledges the existence of pink while being unable to experience it himself? How does one prove the existence of pink?
Originally posted by CosmicEggYour personal inability to acknowledge the experiences of others is at issue here. Your "requirement" for hard evidence is really your own affair. I'm not here to jump through your hoops. You flatter yourself.
Originally posted by CosmicEggThere is no hyphen in ad hominem. Please do point out exactly where this applies in my previous. I'm interested now. I don't think you actually know what it is. However, this is *your* relevant passage:
Originally posted by CosmicEggThe fact that you choose to ignore those reports by others and relegate them to "fantasy" simply, to me, means that you're of considerably limited intelligence and awareness.
Originally posted by CosmicEggYour cognitive skills are lacking.
Originally posted by CosmicEggYou are otherwise a negative and hostile person because you attack those who state things you cannot digest
Originally posted by CosmicEggI can discuss freely here because I am an experiencer. Once again I will attach this text here and ask that you not only read but also comprehend its meaning.