If there is a mass UFO landing planned for Isreal in 2012,how do we fight back?

I believe you should get off the net that is feeding your "belief".

Go outside

Get some fresh air

Go tip toe barefoot through a lush green meadow.

Clear your mind of this total bs

And have a nice life

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There follows the translation according to zipmatt on 11th May 2011. I have studied it 3 evenings running while building a pond through the days. already has me convinced, unless I now have water on the brain.
People have a big problem with warnings in that they tend to ignore them. So I am going to take a punt and say, go ahead, and pretend as if nothing is written here.
That is what happened at Fukushima, when they were told not to build it. Thats exactly as according to the old Japanese fable about the tsunamis too. And now look at them. They are clawing into the ground with it being too late. For the rest of us it seems it is just as it was in the days of Noe. Eating and drinking and royal weddings.


A TRANSLATION OF THE SYMBOLS


THE BOXES : Boxes are boxes are boxes. Boxes can be stacked together and or easily moved. Boxes are containers which hold any combination of article in an organised way. They can be opened or shut or filled and emptied in a number of ways. You live in and eat and transport in boxes. Stacked on the final line are a number of boxes. It is here and following described what these boxes should contain because they are all stacked on the line when the time of the event will occur.
The event will draw part of the the earths surface outwards, in a seismic shift which will affect all oceans and continents. The boxes and the message are for your survival and are meant for you to understand and act upon. Use what you have to surviive, and keep things simple. Make sure you have what you need in boxes so that you can preserve it and your family.
Be ready at all times, from this point, to move. This is repeated , ready to move. Ready to move these boxes. Make sure they fit neatly together and do not overload or complicate transport.. You will need enough kits to make temporary homes in places where you can shelter..This may need to be in a box during the event, either buried or uphill, and both may be necessary. Do not take too much and remember some are things which are absolutely essential.
You know what these are.
There will be enough warning. If you start early you are going to survive.Keep what is necessary now or soon in a small top box. Pack what you really must have full into your bottom large boxes. Look at the diagram and use common sense. Translate again. Diversify the message. "The boxes should fit in your car or other transport." Use horses "!" Use the symbols and plans put here as diagrams and obvious suggestions.
Boxes, which are watertight can hold humans inside for a limited amount of time are for immediate transport and or buryal in case of overflowing water or extreme weather etc. Placement of boxes with equipment for survival is a matter of circumstance, and in this message especially where little or no gain in height is allowed for.
The time when action must take place upon this plan is from when the planets are in alignment, and the invading object may be seen at this time. After this there will be five stages of action and five reminders. At least one planet or sign will remind you four more times, and by the fifth time there will be no final reminder but the event will occur. The alignment is the first reminder and it will be time to start in readiness.

THE FIRST REMINDER: (the alignment) : You will be caused to stop and see it is time to pack the boxes with good reason. Do not panic or make false moves but collect yourself for the journey ahead. Break off from what you are doing in an orderly fashion and regroup. Remain with this group. You must make strong fortifications. Enough to cope with what is coming. You will have to go to ground behind these walls.Build in drainage and moats. Proper excavations are essential. Look for high or previously fortified places such as castles or on the horse hill. Heritage sites or within large buildings are often somewhere high. You will have to put yourselves behind walls, up high, and you are to create a place in which to survive. The best place is underground. Ditches moats and walls are circumstancially necessary, and you are illustrated here how to create an airlocked chamber without an inner lining. You should be able to see from your shelters and easily close a hatch. Be ready to go up and also deep underground, and stay in a spot where you can easily retreat to the earthwork. Keep a lookout. When you have done this make preparations by burying other articles within you chambers for safety or extra people and room. Then, when you have create duch a dwelling, set your crops and systems out which have to be above ground. There is no need to nail them down, they are movable, but always keep everything neat. Use straight lines for digging. Simple earthworks in varying patterns will complete the necessary tasks.
Remember : go uphill and make stairs down.

WATER

.And it is very very important that you recognise the essential element/ need for water, and comprehend all there is to need to know about water. Remember what it can and cannot do because it means your life or your death. Conserve every drop of water. So if you live, you make at least some eathworks or steps, and carry enough water. Find and use all supplies of it. Then there wont have to be an end. And be warned about half measures and not doing enough, water never lies.

THE SECOND REMINDER

You are still able to fill boxes at anytime during this reminder and those following. The most essential message is what has been diseminated in the first reminder. but there is a subscript about how to deal with what will be happening other than groundworks and detail on the best systems to install for survival 6 months to a year within event shelter and its surrounds. Afterwards will not be a problem for those who survive but immediate security of individuals and operations must be carefully overseen while there is still unrelated activity. Stop unnecessary visitors away from the site, Make your route in other than the main paths. Block the main paths. Try to make breaks and corners in the immediate entrance to earthworks making activities discreet. Stay hidden or quiet in the place of activity. Break ground up well so it can be spread or distributed evenly. It tells the reader to explain how to excavate effectively with hand tools.
The message is for your survival and the work involved is not impossible. It is so you can come out and down again.What is being passed on is for your safety because it is critical where you will be during the event and what you have prepared will also matter. There is a simple way to survive.


In my words then the diagram for the directions you need to dig for a tsumami proof bomb shelter is in the picture excavations which will not leak. This means creating a airlocked chamber _ basically J shaped with the chamber sat over the hook of the J.

Underground must be ventilated at least somehow. The J allows ventilation but the chamber must remained sealed underground to prevent the entry of water if it tries to replace air.

The clearness of access or exit is critical for working space as the spoil comes out of the hole. The cover of any excavation is also critical. Water from rain may fill the shaft. Obviously avoid digging near groundwater or into impermeable rock.Local 'engineering controls' help you cut corners and save time. Shoring, braces and internal strengthing are important underground, make extra strong with thick cut wood.

You need : pickaxe ,shovel , buckets rope fork , half a shear is good for neatness hard areas detailing and cleaning roots to be cut. Spade and loppers. Chainsaw and jack hammer or large grinder extra good. Straight saw and bow saw. A long bar and levers. An auger even better. Winch be nice. Erm, mini to large size excavator very handy. Labourers, or shifts.
It is heavy going at first, easier at depth/ horizontal/ upwards. The spoil makes a hole deeper and better bunded if spread around it but, but dont double shift it or block yourself in.
With holes and digging it s nearly always just slightly more or longer than you think.

According to the diagram you need to do 3 things :
1 Dig a hole, a shaft, wide enough to climb down to a depth at least of 10-12 feet (2-3 metres). Put the spoil on the most convenient undisturbed ground next to hole. Re inforce this ground first with boards or lengths to spread the weight if there is any question of subsidence beneath.

2 From the base of the hole make a 3- 5 ft high tunnel (under the spoil heap) which is more than 5 ft or 1.5 metres long. Brace and underpin the passagway. Shore up the roof.

3 From the end of this tunnel dig upwards through the roof of it by 5-6 ft to create a chamber which is covered by its own spoil. The chamber must be braced with roof supports, and can now be extended WITH FLOOR LEVEL ABOVE the height of the passage's entrance upwards to accomodate a large as necessary space in any direction at this level.

The clever bit is that there must be a shaft down from the internal chamberspace flooring to the passageway, neatly dug squarely upwards . So that even without a watertight lid to this whole arrangement, the entry of water to the shaft and tunnel would create a temporary airlock inside the chamber which would not, by my estimation so far, fill up with water, even if there were 20 metres of it above groundlevel if the chamber was sealed in the roof and walls. A tsunami like that would be a temporary situation also, if you were well uphill, and inside one these shelters. The plans for this earth work and similar are repeated. You dig down, along and up. Then spread out from there.

You will do what you need to. Having made this investment it needs protecting and the right things behind it, and some dedication or teamwork. You have to use your initiative and put speed and power behind the efforts if you can.
Remember your supplies your food water crops and essentials, Diversify or strengthen these things at the second reminder. Keep everything secure and organised in this situation. . .

This is the first two lines of the message according to me. The 3rd reminder is about water,


I'm assuming this is what you meant / were looking for?


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Dear sir, I have a question for you if you will allow it?

Why did it take the aliens 3 days to make the crop circle?

It's a very human thing to do if you ask me...especially since you claim they just appear.

Wouldn't the entire thing just appear in one night?


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posted on 30-6-2011 @ 08:49 PM this post One Question People about this big Milk Hill Crop "Circle" ((ATS Threat here)

If it is real and not a Hoax,maybe this isn´t even our own Solar System,but one where the "Creators" came from...Someone should try to translate it with that in Mind.


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posted on 30-6-2011 @ 08:54 PM this post Yes thanks brother i could not post it all together. the best threads are edited by those who leave links i wish i could do more but time runs out you know. the third reminder about water is within the milk hill thread




At the third reminder, make your grouping strong, and make it exclusive. Do not from this point attempt to protect or convice others about this plan. Protect only yourselves and your grouping. Make this agreement between yourselves and stick to it. You may still need to build a tsunami proof shelter, and at the third reminder there will not be more time to start. You must start at this point to dig one, and if you do not, then the nature of the event dictates that you will die. Almost all of the population of earth will not survive the event. Our message and those previous to those aware, will ensure that at least some of you do survive so do not lose hope. It is absolutely imperative that you are underground at the timeof the event as water will overflow all hills. Underground within your earth offers the best protection from all the dangers the event brings. The mass of water will be very heavy and strong. You must learn and consider all aspects of water to deal with these problems. The event may/will happen suddenly and at once, but normal water levels will be restored afterwards. Untill this time you must be underground, and you must follow the suitable designs depicted by the diagram for underground tsunami shelters.



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posted on 30-6-2011 @ 08:57 PM this post reply to post by ZIPMATT

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get to the point man,.
Why beat around the bush,.
All it does when you dont answer direct questions with direct answers is lessen your credibility.


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posted on 30-6-2011 @ 09:06 PM this post Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
Why no where else,.
Funny how they always seem to wait till the fields are tall enough,.
With such superior intelligence they can only write in grassy areas.
and how is it that Elenin ,. cannot be seen yet or a size givin?
Maybe it is nothing
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Answer: the chalk hills where these are made are high enough and of suitable substrate in which to dig/ survive.
over 200m elevation>>
line 2 : do you want to suggest another medium for these messages? farmers : they know when someones leaving footprints in their crops. even working men dont deny.
Elenin sight : daytime only at current position /nasa database
size : nasa database search "comet elenin will be huge" on utube
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posted on 30-6-2011 @ 09:09 PM this post Maybe this is the reason for the Georgia Guidestones. If almost everyone will die then the Elite do not have to kill off Billions. Is this also the reason for the underground tombs the Elites are crawling into?

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posted on 30-6-2011 @ 09:16 PM this post Originally posted by Chadwickus
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Dear sir, I have a question for you if you will allow it?

Why did it take the aliens 3 days to make the crop circle?

It's a very human thing to do if you ask me...especially since you claim they just appear.

Wouldn't the entire thing just appear in one night?


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Sometimes the obvious just gets straight in your eye and blinds you . How on earth would people have got away with that? someone owns that field too remember. someone else farms it. it took 3 days : think about it ; they'd need a licence to get away with it. that just didnt happen. if it was people they were well informed, a long time ago.


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OK,. I will say you answered the questions I asked,. of which were answered years ago with proof
that CC's can easily be man made.
elenin is not huge and nasa does not say it is.
I would be willing to bet a $100.00 elenin is a no worry


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aye well all that happened to Noah too . how do you think Noah knew what to expect?


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I believe you should start preparing to be dissapointed now, so you don't have a meltdown when 2013 comes with no invasion.

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Or MOST of us revisit the stoneage.And some of us never lose anything and our grandchildren still have i-pods after the event,just a select few,its becomeing more and more obvious that we FOUND most of our tech or we pried it out of places was
hidden,considering it was being hidden from humans who were our ancesters and didnt have their own tech the hideing places are very easy for us to find now,it seems to me that a few were left behind to supervise but human emotions took over and the babysitters started playing house,and the ones on our side have taken a shot at getting us as prepared as we can be for our visitation or invasion AND for the global event,if this event is as well known as history says it is,maybe we are going to be scavenged mercilessly because nothing will be left anyways so possibly we are being written off because nature is writeing us off and seeing as WE havent done anythig together as a group to save ourselves this is being intrpreted s free choice and we will be treated like sacrificial victims here,we will be looked at and treated as if we have given up our choice to live and that is not a good scenario,if our governments have in any way represented our complacency as a choice to stay here on the planet and die,then this has been one big misrepresentation and we all need to ask for help,right now,problem is that free will is so powerful and we dont understand our universe enough to open ourselves up to communication safely with other dimensions,we dont have enough data or ability to physically project our wils into other dimensions ,which we already know exist.

Remember this definition ,earth is a dimension,water is a dimension,air is a dimension,and space is a dimension and there are likely others we havent realised yet,but interdimensional travel is not complicated it is simple we are travelling through another dimension when we go underwater in a submarine,it is a simple principal in totality,and the physical principals are universally applicable.As a submarine creates and maintains its own physical environment so does a neutral dimension field or bubble.A bubble of air floating up from the bottem of a cup of water illustrates the idea very well,as the bubble rises through the water ,what is on the surface of the sphere of the bubble??/What is that area BETWEEN the water and the air called??It is called a NEUTRAL DIMENSIONAL FIELD,because it is a state or condition that naturally occurs when dimensions interact,and it can be artificially created and maintained in a very simple manner,and it is like magic when it is turned on.Within a neutral dimension bubble if you are underwater you dont need a steel reinforced submarine to withstand the pressures found in deep water,in fact you could be sitting in your lawnchair,quite literally,as long as your neutral dimensional field or bubble is maintained you will will be safe,however if your bubble or field fails you are dead as a doornail because you will immediatly be exposed to the universal physical reality of state of the dimension you are inside of when you lose your protection,so if unrewater and NOT in a steel sub you are toast,but in one you are ok if the field fails.Same in air,same in space,As above,so below.Simple.

now if it is this simple and it has neen hidden from us ,it seems like there is a bigger reason than money,these lies have the smell of power and deciet,and longevity of life,these simple ideas are all nature based ,not science based,science was supposed to duplicate nature accurately and allow us to copy universal life,instead we veered from that path with our science and started hideing things from each other,a VERY human practice and tactic related to availability of food and resources and population pressure,we were supposed to overcome these personality quirks already as a species and be in harmony with nature and have those instincts gone by now,but we can see the advantages of keeping humans hungry and needy and uncertain of their futures.You dont need to do anything to us individually but you can control us all via our instincts which are still so strong and intgral.But some of us are able to see and recognise what is happening,and we are being weeded out of the population useing medications and unusual treatments and economic hardship and other designed and subversive methods of humanitarian censorship.this is NOT an intellectually related issue it has zero to do with ability to be intelligent,as i have seen some of the smartest people be unable to rationalise what is being done to humanity wholesale planet-wide,so it is not based on that,it is based on the ability to think visually or in video and pictures,this is common in children with Autism,and Aspergers and kids with other tags attatched to them,they are being tagged and listed and haveing their genetic codes ta

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No meltdown here,I was abducted by Human military working with several different human races at seven yrs old,ha ha ha,if you ever watch the movie independance day there is a drunken pilot who crop-dusts for a liveing,and he has been ostricised in his small town for his lifetime,wellthere is a part where he says "Im baaaaaack!!"because he has had a bone to pick for a long time other people wouldnt understand,well I dont have the same bone to pick but I do certaily have some questions for the office on this one.

I am not hung up on 2012 because I was given a "message"I was told and shown some pretty unique stuff so I am aware of another reality we all unknowingly share,or rather most of us are unknowing,but once you become awake and aware you can never go back and erase that recognition of that reality you are a part of,remember you are actually a part of that reality as soon as you become aware you are in it,its like when you are asleep,and this is why they abduct the way they do,if we are not aware we were taken ,we never enter into that reality and we never talk about it or claim it exists,it is ultra-important in some abductions that you remember nothing at all,and it is imperative if you plan on getting back home.

No melt-down here but i will not be at home anyways,quite honestly you dont need to believe in alternate realitys to be getting ready to hunker down and ride out the storm,just by being aware of geological records you should be prepareing for yourself or your childrens children,because cyclical global floods are a part of history and there are signs one is on the way,if you understand a little astronomy and you are current in events you will aknowledge Nibiru or whatever the celestial body is called and correlate the geological records with this data,and if you happen to be religous you will correlate those two things with your bible stories which will wake you up even more,then there are the human storys,the astronauts and scientists,the government workers,the national defence ministers and the verified people who are numbering the hundreds of thousands that are all comeing out and telling us of the existance of this new reality and telling us all that wether we know it or not we are an integral part of that reality just not as aware as they are.I was abducted a thousands and thousands have been worldwide,but that is our story and it is seperate from all of the other ways people can learn about what is happening in our world now in a broader sense.

An autistic kid can look at data and see patterns like an aspergers kid can do,they are visual thinkers who recognise patterns faster than a supercomputer and maybe faster than any computer can ever function,but remember that if they train themselves properly YOU CANNOT LIE to them easily ans sometimes not at all,because they see the world as a 3-d image in their minds when they think,as you tell then a one-dimensional lie they are silently spinning your lie around in their heads as a 3-d image and as soon as they get to the backside they see your lie clearly,and this happens AS YOU ARE TALKING TO THEM OR AS THEY ARE READING----IN REALTIME.The only way you can hide a lie from a visual thinker is to withhold data from then,this also works with a linear thinker but the two examples are on opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to how much data they need to see the lie,the visual thinkers need only a few words or sentences to bust you the linear thinkers need to have proof presented to them OVER AND OVER AND OVER before they can conceptualise the realitys available to them.

No, no meltdown comeing here,isnt it a little late for that?I mean this data has in large part been suppressed but still available if you were looking for it for decades,just suppressed,there has ALWAYS been to much data around and there has ALWAYS been suppression of knowledge for this reason,our creators supressed knowledge from us and we carry the habitual action as a legacy,some of us consider it an inheritance.Look at the list of people who are connected to the ufo and disclosure issues and are dead???They are numbering in the thousands already and over history that number must be hundreds of millions who have died to keep this data suppressed from the masses,both directly and indirectly hundreds of millions.

I cannot ignore the geological changes that are a natural part of this planets history,I cannot ignore the human voices I hear online,I cannot ignore the fact that the humans telling their storys are nearing death and are all-in now,I cannot ignore the fact that although I have no defined religon I see the commonality in doctrines and correlate the storys history in reverse and aknowlledge a common beginning,I cannot ignore the obvious technological references in the bible--the obvious ones,and Sumeria top it all.

Why would an alien race even come to this planet? There is so many better worlds out there to choose from.
Come on Lets face it there is nothing here that would be of any consequence to them.
Dont mention resources either. If aliens are such an advanced inter-dimensional race of beings dont you think they would of solved the need for resources.
After all they are the masters of time and space and even matter, Im sure that they could whip up a bar of gold or other precious materials from selected atomic particles.

Also why would they want to come and rule us and be worshipped when there not even here now to rule or be worshipped. Where have they been all this time? on holiday!?.

All this talk about them being our gods is BS imo.

I believe that if aliens ever came here its because they are just as curious about us as we are them.
Anything beyond our level of existance is not even aware of us in that way, it would be like us trying to communicate with bees. we are just not important to them in that way.

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consider the butterfly effect. an action on planet dirt could, repeat could have consequences elsewhere. johnson island high altitude nuke tests showed what looks like, again imo what looks like time and space tearing apart and re-integrating upon detonation of payload. does this have an effect on other possible dimensions, local space or further out? perhaps the sciences that are being undertaken here like the cern experiments could affect the space time fabric a lot more than we can measure or quantify.

i don't think it's about one race lording it over another, i feel it has more to do with possible destruction of ourselves and the oasis we currently exist on.

f.

We have the technology now to make the entire world believe we are 'alienz' or 'God'.


""How do we fight back""....silly...you can't defeat the technology a few humans possess today.

Couldn't care less for Israel,

But if "they" do come to "enslave us" no human will take it on the chin. We will attempt to fight em, if we lose which we might not due to the fact that "life" can be taken no matter what life it is. also we will all abandon any petty wars we have here on earth against each other and unite against a common foe.

don't go saying we stand no chance... have faith in your own kind no one else is gonna want you.

If the aliens do come I would guess they would probably set up somewhere almost inhospitable to humans like Antarctica first or a desert. Places also with the least dangers from animals, plants, viruses, etc. Then move underground. As for exposing themselves I would guess they would go for some place on the planet of percieved power like Dubai, which is becoming visually stunning, rather than Isreal. Tactically, making the rest of the world look wealthier and powerful so they would set up shop there first would be advantageous. This would give time for the real superpowers of the world to gather intelligence and develop an appropriate response.