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posted on May, 13 2012 @ 05:39 AM
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Now can this guy come up with so much garbage, from seeing all sorts of unexplainable stuff to random theory's.
Surely ATS can't be that desperate for members it has to allow him to continue to post this?

And as to the threads topic, Noah built a spaceship as well as a huge moon? Comic book forum might be a better place to post this.



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 05:49 AM
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Hi Blocula,



You seem to be faring rather well amongst a gaggle of geese who cluck away so upset they are that they have been such dire fools to believe the crumbs of falsehood which TPTB have tossed to quench their thirst for mindless spoon-feeding by their superiors. These are the same who like to believe Disney movies as reality and think that Walt Disney's tender friend, Nazi Wernher von Braun, cousin of Eva Braun was a humanist, seeking to advance science? LOL - Much in the same way as the Soviets yearned for their "Little Father of the People" Josef Stalin who looked after their politically correct mindset.



Certainly, the Nazis who started the CIA and NASA were lovely chaps dedicated to enlightening the populace? Let them believe in their FAIRY TALES. And be so certain that they hold the keys to our Reality! These who were taken like so many sheeple to Science Fairs and Aspiring Astronaut Camps were told ALL THE TRUTH about Space, UFOs and Aliens. Let us leave them to their misty-eyed nostalgia and illusions of honesty from Nazis. What a LARK. They are the ones in need of a Zoo.

##SNIPPED##



For sure they are superior to all others, because they recite their lesson better than anyone? And in their spare time they have studied and memorized every detail of the cocktails of falsehoods they have been prompted to obediently learn. Soon they may get to become honorary members of the "NASA DRONE CLUB", where only the most moronic of brain-dead zombies can gather to cluck about in concert, repeating to one another any number of implausibly and scientifically false factoids relating how the moon is just a natural satellite of our planet, in the face of MAJOR SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE to the contrary.



While I cannot know if the MOON IS NOAH'S ARK for certain, this is definitely one of the more promising hypotheses to explain the various accounts in diverse religious scriptures and historical renditions of Mankind's earliest times. For it is at present one of the very few theories which takes into account several key scientific facts which are totally obliterated by competing theories:




1. THE MOON IS HOLLOW which most scientists will agree is IMPOSSIBLE FOR A NATURAL SATELLITE.


2. Thus THE MOON IS AN ARTIFICIAL SATELLITE. This means that it was BUILT by living creatures and not created by natural planetary formation processes.


3. THE MOON IS NOT IN ROTATION. It is THE ONLY FIXED-FACE SATELLITE IN SPACE. Not a single natural moon in any Star System observed in the Galaxy is a fixed-face satellite, which does not rotate on its axis. All natural satellites ROTATE.


4. This indicates that THE MOON WAS PURPOSELY POSITIONED WITHOUT ROTATION in its current orbit around Earth.


5. The Moon was positioned at an identical OPTICAL DISTANCE to correspond to the exact same optical size as The Sun. This enables from time to time the MOON TO OCCULT THE SUN IN A LUNAR ECLIPSE and it also allows from time to time the SUN TO OCCULT THE MOON IN A SOLAR ECLIPSE. What purpose this serves is unexplained, but it is statistically far too unlikely to be merely a coincidence.


6. This indicates that THE MOON WAS PURPOSELY POSITIONED AT ITS CURRENT DISTANCE from Earth.




Let the naysayers in this thread, who crack jokes and mock anyone who hasn't a bevy of diplomas and mainstream scientific validation in their every work or published word, explain even one of these FACTS? They cannot, because NASA cannot, and no scientist worth their salt and who isn't a total sell out would ever dare try. There remain however a few academics who are not either too terrorized to dare entertain a non orthodox thought for so much as a single instant, nor fully engaged in total self-censorship, to consider the data and factual evidence in order to draw a few summary and obvious conclusions. Among these, we can find the former President of China's Aeronautics University where the future teams of China's own Space Program are trained.



Shen SHituan, PhD President of Beijing University of Aeronautics, 1988 to 2002



This is interesting because he maintains theories and defends them in public which would no doubt upset the knee-jerk debunkers in this thread far more than Blocula's Noah's Ark theory. His associate Sun Shi Li, a retired high level Foreign Ministry official of the Chinese Government, goes further yet. He maintains in public that today ALIENS LIVE AMONG US in stealth form, disguised as humans. This happens to rejoin the statements transcribed from the Reagan Presidential taped briefings at Camp David in 1981, during which he was told that an Alien Species of Insectoids - at that time called Trantaloids - are a HOSTILE Species, and that specific War Plans had been made by the Pentagon to counter any attacks or invasion efforts by them. According to Sun Shi Li they take human form by modifying their physique in such a way as to perfectly deceive us and thus live among us to infiltrate our society. What technology they use to pass as humans is not yet understood given that they reportedly have over a thousand years of advance on us technologically.



Before those here who suckle upon NASA Dogma and who regurgitate it like babies who swallowed too much maternal milk, first listen to his opinions about why the occidental scientific establishment has failed miserably to so much as take into account the many thousands of known and verifiable UFO events as well as refuses to so much as consider as plausible the obvious implications of the various parameters of these pervasive phenomena.




'Dogma' is a system of obfuscations, propaganda and related ideology, which elites present as "truth", with the aim to maintain social control, and toexpand their own hold on power.


...In order to appreciate the systematized denial of human extraterrestrial contact and influences on Human civilization, which prevails in the West, one needs to appreciate that "official science" and "institutionalized religion" in the West are two different "heads" of the same body politic.


...As human civilization is being destroyed under the hyprocisy which guides the Western Scientific and pseudo-religious Establishment, the timely needed enlightenment of human populations on a reported Extraterrestrial presence, could very well be led by China. The government of China notwithstanding accounts of human rights abuses, appears to have constructively prepared members of that society, on the kind of potentially vital awareness context, which Western governments continue to deny its own societal members.


...Izvestia reports that China has a record number of UFO scientific and community-based organizations. There are many who even attempt to establish some sort of a contact with extraterrestrials. Their actions are protected by the National Society of the Extraterrestrial Studies, which was founded 25 years ago. This National Society is financed by the government.


Only professional scientists and engineers are allowed members in the Society. A person also required to have Ph.D. in science and have several published works about UFOs. About a third of all members of the society are also members of the Government of China.


The study and civic appreciation of Extraterrestrials are NOT systematically marginalized as the case in the industralized West, which tries to use dogma to ridicule community and academic UFO research initiatives, and also the work of 'Exopolitics' groups.


Hundreds of scientists and engineers in China conduct thorough studies of apparent Extraterrestrial phenomenon.
SOURCE: China ex-Foreign Ministry Official: ALIENS INFEST USA & CHINA




For background reference here is an excerpt from the Reagan briefing tapes which mentions the reality of said Aliens who live among us as if they were simply other humans. Are they in fact posing as some of our Political Leaders or other Influential Members of Society to invade us by INFILTRATION? Is there a connection between the INVASION OF EARTH BY ALIENS and the MOON? Is this the reason why NASA IS HIDING EVIDENCE and systematically airbrushing any photos they release of the Moon's surface? Is this why no more manned missions to the Moon have taken place. And WAS THE MOON NOAH'S ARK? These are all legitimate questions.





...ADVISER #4: Mr President, their technology is probably 1,000 years more advanced than ours... maybe even more. They have different materials to work with. Some of their materials are not found on this planet.

PRESIDENT: What do you mean, like iron or elements?

ADVISER #4: Yes, Mr President. We found many metals and other things that are not found on this planet. Maybe they have more than 104 elements or maybe they are different than ours.

PRESIDENT: The hostile ones or the Ebens?

ADVISER #4: Mr President that goes for each species although the Ebens do have similar elements as Earth. But the Trantaloids have strange materials ... nothing like Earth. These ALIENS CAN IMITATE HUMANS. They CAN LOOK LIKE BLOND HUMANS. However, they are not blond, but UGLY-LOOKING INSECTS.

PRESIDENT: Insects, did you say that?

ADVISER #4: Yes, do you have a photograph?

The CARETAKER: Yes, hold on.

WM CASEY: They are pretty nasty looking.

PRESIDENT: Well, they would stand out.

ADVISER #4: No, Mr President, as I said THEY CAN IMITATE LOOKING LIKE HUMANS.

PRESIDENT: How in the world do they do that? It took a lot of makeup to make me look good in the movies. (loud laughter heard)

ADVISER #4: Well, Mr President, I can assure you they don't use makeup, at least not like we would. They have the ability to change their bodies. As I said before, they are 1,000 years ahead of us in technology and probably every other science.

PRESIDENT: They can be killed?

ADVISER #4: Yes, they are just flesh and blood, like a human body. They can be killed. But their space ships have a force field around them. They can be shot down, but it takes some doing on our part.
SOURCE: The Reagan Briefings March 6-8, 1981



Getsmart


edit on 13-5-2012 by Getsmart because: ALIENS PUT THE MOON WHERE IT IS ! ! !




posted on May, 13 2012 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by Getsmart
reply to post by blocula
 


Hi Blocula,


You seem to be fairing rather well amongst a gaggle of geese who cluck away so upset they are that they have been such dire fools to believe the crumbs of falsehood which TPTB have tossed to quench their clamor for mindless spoon-feeding by their superiors. These are the same who like to believe Disney movies as reality, who think that our tender humanist Wernher von Braun was a humanist much the same way the Soviets yearned for their "Little Father of the People" Josef Stalin. Sure, the Nazis who started the CIA and NASA were lovely chaps dedicated to enlightening the populace. Of course those who were taken like so many sheep to Science Fairs and Aspiring Astronaut Camps were told ALL THE TRUTH about Space, UFOs and Aliens. LOL


In any case the gang on board in this thread which gloats and bickers about anything which doesn't emanate from higher authorities than their own lowly minds - and who nonetheless by their insistence they succeeded in getting relegated to the Skunk Works GHETTO SECTION of ATS - is seeking both reassurance from one another to act like so many mules kicking at anything as hard as they might rather than advance on the only path left to a logical mind: THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD LIES, plus they have endorsed these lies, they have broadcast and supported these lies, and they feel empowered as they are MORE BRAINWASHED than the next man. For sure they are superior to all others, because they recite their lesson better than anyone, and they have studied and memorized every detail of the cocktail of falsehoods they were prompted to learn. Soon they may get to be honorary members of the NASA DRONE CLUB where the most moronic of brain dead zombies can cluck about in concert about how the moon is just a natural satellite of our planet, in the face of MAJOR SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE to the contrary.


While I cannot know if the MOON IS NOAH'S ARK for certain, this is definitely one of the more promising hypotheses to explain the various accounts in diverse religious scriptures and historical renditions of Mankind's earliest times. For it is at present one of the very few theories which takes into account several key scientific facts which are totally obliterated by competing theories:*


1. THE MOON IS HOLLOW which most scientists will agree is IMPOSSIBLE FOR A NATURAL SATELLITE.


2. Thus THE MOON IS AN ARTIFICIAL SATELLITE. This means that it was BUILT by living creatures and not created by natural planetary formation processes.


3. THE MOON IS NOT IN ROTATION. It is THE ONLY FIXED-FACE SATELLITE IN SPACE. Not a single natural moon in any Star System observed in the Galaxy is a fixed-face satellite, which does not rotate on its axis. All natural satellites ROTATE.


4. This indicates that THE MOON WAS PURPOSELY POSITIONED WITHOUT ROTATION in its current orbit around Earth.


5. The Moon was positioned at an identical OPTICAL DISTANCE to correspond to the exact same optical size as The Sun. This enables from time to time the MOON TO OCCULT THE SUN IN A LUNAR ECLIPSE and it also allows from time to time the SUN TO OCCULT THE MOON IN A SOLAR ECLIPSE. What purpose this serves is unexplained, but it is statistically far too unlikely to be merely a coincidence.


6. This indicates that THE MOON WAS PURPOSELY POSITIONED AT ITS CURRENT DISTANCE from Earth.


Let the naysayers in this thread, who crack jokes and mock anyone who hasn't a bevy of diplomas and mainstream scientific validation in their every work or published word, explain even one of these FACTS? They cannot, because NASA cannot, and no scientist worth their salt and who isn't a total sell out would ever dare try. There remain however a few academics who are not either too terrorized to dare entertain a non orthodox thought for so much as a single instance, nor fully engaged in total self-censorship, to consider the data and factual evidence in order to draw a few summary and obvious conclusions. Among these, we can find the former President of China's Aeronautics University where the future teams of China's own Space Program are trained.


Shen #uan, PhD President of Beijing University of Aeronautics, 1988 to 2002


This is interesting because he maintains theories and defends them in public which would no doubt upset the knee-jerk debunkers in this thread far more than Blocula's Noah's Ark theory. He maintains that ALIENS LIVE AMONG US in human form. This rejoins the Reagan Presidential briefings in which Insectoids called Trantaloids can take human form by modifying their physique in such a way as to perfectly deceive us and thus live among us to infiltrate our society.


[url=http://]China ex-Foreign Minist


Oh please don't encourage him with this drivel...



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 06:12 AM
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1. THE MOON IS HOLLOW which most scientists will agree is IMPOSSIBLE FOR A NATURAL SATELLITE.


The Moon is not hollow; if it were, it would have less mass. The Moon's mass was accurately calculated over 150 years ago:

articles.adsabs.harvard.edu...



2. Thus THE MOON IS AN ARTIFICIAL SATELLITE. This means that it was BUILT by living creatures and not created by natural planetary formation processes.


Wrong. See above.



3. THE MOON IS NOT IN ROTATION. It is THE ONLY FIXED-FACE SATELLITE IN SPACE. Not a single natural moon in any Star System observed in the Galaxy is a fixed-face satellite, which does not rotate on its axis. All natural satellites ROTATE.


Extremely wrong. The Moon does rotate. It's rotation is roughly equal to the time it takes to orbit the Earth, therefore one side always faces the Earth. This is due to tidal locking. All of the known natural satellites in the Solar System are tidally locked to their planet. No other planetary system in the galaxy has ever been directly observed, much less any exo-moons. (They are trying, though.)





4. This indicates that THE MOON WAS PURPOSELY POSITIONED WITHOUT ROTATION in its current orbit around Earth.


Wrong again; see above.



5. The Moon was positioned at an identical OPTICAL DISTANCE to correspond to the exact same optical size as The Sun. This enables from time to time the MOON TO OCCULT THE SUN IN A LUNAR ECLIPSE and it also allows from time to time the SUN TO OCCULT THE MOON IN A SOLAR ECLIPSE. What purpose this serves is unexplained, but it is statistically far too unlikely to be merely a coincidence.


It serves no purpose, it is a coincidence.



6. This indicates that THE MOON WAS PURPOSELY POSITIONED AT ITS CURRENT DISTANCE from Earth.


The facts are against you, but there's something about ALL CAPS I find strangely persuasive.
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posted on May, 13 2012 @ 07:39 AM
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posted on May, 13 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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I'm sorry but I find the entire premise to be absurd. We know about the internal makeup of the moon via the various sensors that the Apollo missions left there, which have picked up moonquakes. We've studied the rocks, we've looked at the extensive pictures that have been taken of almost every scrap of the place and we know a great deal about our nearest neighbour in space. All the theories about the moon being hollow are deeply flawed and entirely unscientific. Where did the magma for the Mares come from if the moon's hollow?
Conspiracies for the sake of conspiracies are ridiculous.
By the way, the OP has a history of posting threads predicated on absurd theories, based on no evidence whatsoever. That's not how reality works. We need proof, we need evidence, we need something other than a wild idea.



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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Blocula doesnt like proof or evidence



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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Right so if we disagree with you you class us as TPTB also if we disagree with you we are dumb

this is ATS and we are all entitled to our opinions regarding any subject..
. peace



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
I'm sorry but I find the entire premise to be absurd. We know about the internal makeup of the moon via the various sensors that the Apollo missions left there, which have picked up moonquakes. We've studied the rocks, we've looked at the extensive pictures that have been taken of almost every scrap of the place and we know a great deal about our nearest neighbour in space. All the theories about the moon being hollow are deeply flawed and entirely unscientific. Where did the magma for the Mares come from if the moon's hollow?
Conspiracies for the sake of conspiracies are ridiculous.
By the way, the OP has a history of posting threads predicated on absurd theories, based on no evidence whatsoever. That's not how reality works. We need proof, we need evidence, we need something other than a wild idea.


my thoughts exactly.....



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Getsmart
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Hi Blocula,



You seem to be faring rather well amongst a gaggle of geese who cluck away


no not really just clucking for blocular to produce some facts to back up his claims



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Getsmart
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Let the naysayers in this thread, who crack jokes and mock anyone


you mean like your geese comment kinda rich don't you think.....



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by Getsmart
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ALIENS PUT THE MOON WHERE IT IS ! ! !




Before those here who suckle upon NASA Dogma and who regurgitate it like babies who swallowed too much maternal milk ..

Have you got facts to back up that claim that the aliens put the moon where it is above no
well you obviously do not you are now put in IGNORE MODE until you come up with some.

Good day sir

i am gonna vacate to my garden and suckle on some beers, as it is a glorious day ta ta for now .

p.s just for the record everyone is entitled to their own opinion on any subject buy it you will sleep better



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by denver22
i am gonna vacate to my garden and suckle on some beers, as it is a glorious day ta ta for now .


Seconded! In fact I'm off to break out the BBQ, drink some beer and enjoy the sunshine here in London. Yay, the rain has finally stopped!



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 10:40 AM
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ohh one last thing you need to getsmart as this drivel that you speak has come from NASA so it is sort of a contradiction which you speak really saying nasa lies well then maybe you should not have posted what you did as remember NASA lies .. keep digging cornelius ull find the master of this house ..




posted on May, 13 2012 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by denver22
i am gonna vacate to my garden and suckle on some beers, as it is a glorious day ta ta for now .


Seconded! In fact I'm off to break out the BBQ, drink some beer and enjoy the sunshine here in London. Yay, the rain has finally stopped!


i am in pompey and me to i am gonna crack open a few have a barbecue invite some celestial brothers to join me
chuck another insectoid on the barby mmmm lol. peace .



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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I am cracking open a bottle (because man united did not win the premiership)



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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The OP merely stated a stream-of-consciousness stab in the dark at what might have happened. It's a fairy tale without any rationality or evidence to back it up. One of the two must be there - otherwise that's all you've got, a fairy tale.

I'm as open minded as the next guy, but the OP is nonsense. Noah's arc, dinosaurs and evil aliens? Without any justification - sorry, that doesn't stand up. It sounds like something a 7 year old boy would write in his spare time.

With regards to your own post - hiding behind a pseudo-sophisticated posting style doesn't make you any more credible. In fact, your awkward command of English comes off as more of a caricature than any sort of literary flair. Perhaps if you were more economic with your use of words.

Examples:



You seem to be faring rather well amongst a gaggle of geese who cluck away so upset they are that they have been such dire fools to believe the crumbs of falsehood which TPTB have tossed to quench their thirst for mindless spoon-feeding by their superiors.

Over the top segment with non-existant grammar, not to mention being a borderline ATS infraction.


Certainly, the Nazis who started the CIA and NASA were lovely chaps dedicated to enlightening the populace? Let them believe in their FAIRY TALES. And be so certain that they hold the keys to our Reality!

Ok I don't know what you're on about - but you believe this guy yet dismiss other ideas as 'FAIRY TALES'?



For sure they are superior to all others, because they recite their lesson better than anyone? And in their spare time they have studied and memorized every detail of the cocktails of falsehoods they have been prompted to obediently learn. Soon they may get to become honorary members of the "NASA DRONE CLUB", where only the most moronic of brain-dead zombies can gather to cluck about in concert, repeating to one another any number of implausibly and scientifically false factoids relating how the moon is just a natural satellite of our planet, in the face of MAJOR SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE to the contrary.

What is your problem? Why are you getting so worked up about this? It's not like the guys are saying every conspiracy theory ever is total nonsense - just this one. It isn't even a theory, it's a story.



While I cannot know if the MOON IS NOAH'S ARK for certain, this is definitely one of the more promising hypotheses to explain the various accounts in diverse religious scriptures and historical renditions of Mankind's earliest times. For it is at present one of the very few theories which takes into account several key scientific facts which are totally obliterated by competing theories:

What?



1. THE MOON IS HOLLOW which most scientists will agree is IMPOSSIBLE FOR A NATURAL SATELLITE.


2. Thus THE MOON IS AN ARTIFICIAL SATELLITE. This means that it was BUILT by living creatures and not created by natural planetary formation processes.

These are not facts. Artificial is a word that means something was built by a conscious being, yes. But it is not a 'fact' that the moon is artificial.



4. This indicates that THE MOON WAS PURPOSELY POSITIONED WITHOUT ROTATION in its current orbit around Earth.

Again, not a fact.



5. The Moon was positioned at an identical OPTICAL DISTANCE to correspond to the exact same optical size as The Sun. This enables from time to time the MOON TO OCCULT THE SUN IN A LUNAR ECLIPSE and it also allows from time to time the SUN TO OCCULT THE MOON IN A SOLAR ECLIPSE. What purpose this serves is unexplained, but it is statistically far too unlikely to be merely a coincidence.


6. This indicates that THE MOON WAS PURPOSELY POSITIONED AT ITS CURRENT DISTANCE from Earth.

Your grasp of the concept of facts baffles me.



Let the naysayers in this thread, who crack jokes and mock anyone who hasn't a bevy of diplomas and mainstream scientific validation in their every work or published word, explain even one of these FACTS?

That is not what happened here. You make it sound like a group of hugely successful scientists have joined ATS just to brag and debunk conspiracy theories. This story wouldn't even get published in Spider-man. And again, those were not 'facts'.

Anyway, you catch my drift. Mellow out.



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:20 PM
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Are you a skate? Enjoy League 1 if so
. We'll certainly going to enjoy the Premier League
.
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posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by arollingstone
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Are you a skate? Enjoy League 1 if so
. We'll certainly going to enjoy the Premier League
.
edit on 13-5-2012 by arollingstone because: (no reason given)


from portsmouth yes couldn't give a toss about football these days my buzz comes from debunking drivel ..

good post by the way we are not all like you say scientists coming on here to debunk facts and stuff.

my opinion counts like yours and anyone elses on here this is ATS deny ignorence .



posted on May, 13 2012 @ 08:45 PM
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Exactly - we're here to deny ignorance, not to celebrate it!



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