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Originally posted by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS
reply to post by jiggerj
Think globally, act locally.
Think universally, act worldly.
The rate in which innovation and enlightenment is changing our abilities to have an effect on all that is, is increasing at such a rate that old paradigms such as the one you carry will soon be mute.
Can you fathom that?
Originally posted by MESSAGEFROMTHESTARS
reply to post by jiggerj
Think globally, act locally.
Think universally, act worldly.
The rate in which innovation and enlightenment is changing our abilities to have an effect on all that is, is increasing at such a rate that old paradigms such as the one you carry will soon be mute.
Can you fathom that?
Originally posted by jiggerj
As far as many many humans are concerned, we have a soul. We have an afterlife. We have out of body experiences. We are one with the universe. We have a purpose. We have been chosen. Blah, blah, blah.
Do people really REALLY understand just how tiny and insignifcant we are when compared to the vast universe? Of the billions and billions of galaxies, each with billions of stars and planets, and we are significant?
Come onnnn!
If our planet is like a grain of sand in a desert, then what does that make us humans? If we do have a role to play in the great scheme of things, then by comparison, that role is less important than a termite fart.
I mean, really, we are sooo tiny in this universe. We aren't even microscopic. If a god is looking over us in this infinite universe I can see him looking away for just a second, and then saying, "Crap, I lost them! Where are they?!"
Can you even fathom that if there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, they might not even know that our galaxy exists, much less know that WE exist. That's how infinitesimal we are.
We started on this road of enlightenment when we figured out that we are not the center of the universe. Then we discovered that we are way out in left field in our own galaxy, and that ours is not the only galaxy. Just how important can people think we humans are when our own planet couldn't quailify as a subatomic particle if all the material in the universe was clumped together.
We are truly nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. We need to accept it, and get over it.
And now I'm slipping into my body armor and jumping into a concrete bunker. Let the bashing begin!
edit on 4/16/2012 by jiggerj because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by hawkiye
we are helping move the whole forward through our individual experiences.
Really? You honestly believe that our individual experiences in this universe, or even in the great unknown scheme of things has any importance whatsoever? I mean, really?
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by hawkiye
But we are the individual points that the universal consciousness chose to manifest
The universal consciousness (if there were such thing) dribbled a few organisms on this grain of sand in the vast cosmos, and that makes us the chosen ones? Do you really and honestly believe this?
Originally posted by noshepard
reply to post by jiggerj
Well the inverse is also true.
Think about how massively huge we are, compared to cells, compared to molecules, compared to atoms and particles, and the even smaller things we haven't yet discovered because we can't see them, even with the most powerful microscopes around. We are HUGELY massive. Infinitely so.
It's easy to lean to one side of this perspective, and dwell solely on how small we are. And compared to the universe out there, we are insanely small. Compared to the universe inside, we are infinitely huge.
It's all relative to your perception, see? You are infinitely small and infinitely huge at the same time. Size doesn't really matter after all, because it's just an illusion relative to perspective.
So while I enjoyed your post, it did seem overly negative and leaning towards one side of this view point. Let's take both into account. In your reality, you are the center of the universe, literally. Outside of your physical body, the universe extends infinitely making you seem so small. Going inside, everything gets soooooo small, making you seem so huge.
What if inside of atoms are just more physical universe comprised of more atoms that contain more galaxies and star systems and planets and it just continues both infinitely. And we are just inside of one tiny tiny atom that is inside of a bigger physical universe which is just an atom inside of an even bigger universe? And it just goes infinitely like that in both directions. Life supporting more life. You can't really say we are tiny. You can't say we are huge. We are the center of our own experience, and we just are.
Look at both sides of this
Originally posted by arpgme
Originally posted by jiggerj
Can you even fathom that if there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, they might not even know that our galaxy exists, much less know that WE exist. That's how infinitesimal we are.
So what is your point?
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by jiggerj
If God is the infinity of limitless possibility, then there is no limit too large. That also implies no limit to small. From the numbered hairs on your head to the largest Sun, God knows (and IS) every atom. Complete awareness and complete presence. There is no defect like a limit we could imagine by our own limited perspective. Our awareness expands as our understanding expands. God is the measure of what is known or can be known. He is the benchmark. We are merely a degree behind. That degree is the same "Great Chasm" that separated the rich man from Lazarus. We manage this degree by faith and growth toward God. We are ever-rising to the infinity. Consult this post. LINK
Luke 16
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
God separates the light from the darkness. It's a continual process. We are charged with the same task while among the temporal living. It's a choice between each side of infinity. We move from multiplicity to unity by experience.
edit on 16-4-2012 by EnochWasRight because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by radkrish
In the grand scheme of things, we are here to play a part. We may not know it yet.
Originally posted by alliswell
reply to post by jiggerj
Since we are quantitatively less than a "termite fart" in the "grand scheme" of things, thats what makes we humans insignificant...?? Hey, even this universe we are apart of started out really small, and according to your reasoning, insignificant.
Originally posted by ManjushriPrajna
reply to post by jiggerj
If you look at humans physically, we're a very remote planetary tribe of somewhat intelligent sentient beings who live and die in a relatively short amount of time.
But if you look beyond the physical, then we are the universe.
Originally posted by IblisLucifer
Why?
Granted when you look out and see the vastness of the empty space around us,
it is only natural to feel small in a seemingly endless world
But in that same way when we look down within are self and also the bodies of others which have just as vast quantities of space in us at the molecular, atomic, sub atomic level and beyond that that despite being composed of these seemingly small things.
that are closer to the source then those they compose from atom to molecule and up to us as well as all other stellar bodies themselves so far from the even smaller things that make them up
with each taking up large amounts of space within themselves.
The stars and planets themselves must be in envy of them for they are nothing without them and comparably larger rather then smaller
Since each atom contains more empty space from its outer shell down to its nucleus then is within the solar system the from the heliopause to the sun.
An atom is more than 99% empty space, and the protons and neutrons make up a very small amount of the volume of an atom. Additionally, the electrons are much smaller in proportion to the nucleons (protons and neutrons) than we have depicted. The nucleons are actually about 1800 times the size of an electron.
It is the composition of all these independent worlds each built within and upon another that makeup are own unique world that is the sum total package of all worlds all forces at work within us that make each persons body their own world and their mind its own universe all on the one shared earthly world.
That's BFing amazing if one thinks about it in scale.