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Originally posted by juleol
The main problem start when they overdo it and collect all "affordable housing" in just one area. I think things would be better if it was spread out instead of giant apartment complexes filled with low income apartments.
Originally posted by mayabong
No my post is more about realism. Affordable housing and the things that come along with it, do tend to make property values fall.
I mean come on, none of them give a crap about life, if they did they wouldn't be poor, right? I swear that is how some of you make it seem.
Originally posted by boot2theface
I mean come on, none of them give a crap about life, if they did they wouldn't be poor, right? I swear that is how some of you make it seem.
This. A thousand times this. But it's cool we'll see what happens when the class war actually involves weapons and not just words. You know? When finally the masses of proletarians are forced to rebel because artificial oil shortages cause gas to be 30 dollars a gallon and the rich are still driving around in their suvs with big smiles and full bellies while the "useless" welfare recipients can't even buy a 10 dollar loaf of bread. because they have to use all of their money to pay a 1000 dollar rent payment for a one bedroom apartment. You think those numbers are exaggerations? Just wait...just wait.
edit on 4-4-2012 by boot2theface because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mayabong
Originally posted by fictitious
reply to post by boot2theface
Originally posted by boot2theface
Fully integrate society?? No thanks.
Yeah, because when we're all separated and competing things get better for everyone right?
We are MORE integrated now than in the history of the united states. You want Utopia! This is not attainable. Not because everyone doesn't think its great-because its in our dna to seperate ourselves. Even the same species of bird from Ohio doesn't want to group up with the flock from Montana.
We are a nation of more more more. When will we ever be content??? Sometimes it is good to let things be.
Your post reminded me of this.
Originally posted by mayabong
Originally posted by boot2theface
I mean come on, none of them give a crap about life, if they did they wouldn't be poor, right? I swear that is how some of you make it seem.
This. A thousand times this. But it's cool we'll see what happens when the class war actually involves weapons and not just words. You know? When finally the masses of proletarians are forced to rebel because artificial oil shortages cause gas to be 30 dollars a gallon and the rich are still driving around in their suvs with big smiles and full bellies while the "useless" welfare recipients can't even buy a 10 dollar loaf of bread. because they have to use all of their money to pay a 1000 dollar rent payment for a one bedroom apartment. You think those numbers are exaggerations? Just wait...just wait.
edit on 4-4-2012 by boot2theface because: (no reason given)
Just cause a person might want themselves and their kids to be safe, you guys turn it around on them and say that they must hate poor people. You want this utopian world that just isn't happening. You can't take some black people from over here, some mexicans from over there, and put them in the middle of a bunch of white people and expect everything to be hunky dory. I wish that were the case but people are weird, different groups are raised differently with different beliefs, different habits, different desires.
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Originally posted by boot2theface
Originally posted by mayabong
Originally posted by boot2theface
I mean come on, none of them give a crap about life, if they did they wouldn't be poor, right? I swear that is how some of you make it seem.
This. A thousand times this. But it's cool we'll see what happens when the class war actually involves weapons and not just words. You know? When finally the masses of proletarians are forced to rebel because artificial oil shortages cause gas to be 30 dollars a gallon and the rich are still driving around in their suvs with big smiles and full bellies while the "useless" welfare recipients can't even buy a 10 dollar loaf of bread. because they have to use all of their money to pay a 1000 dollar rent payment for a one bedroom apartment. You think those numbers are exaggerations? Just wait...just wait.
edit on 4-4-2012 by boot2theface because: (no reason given)
Just cause a person might want themselves and their kids to be safe, you guys turn it around on them and say that they must hate poor people. You want this utopian world that just isn't happening. You can't take some black people from over here, some mexicans from over there, and put them in the middle of a bunch of white people and expect everything to be hunky dory. I wish that were the case but people are weird, different groups are raised differently with different beliefs, different habits, different desires.
edit on 4-4-2012 by mayabong because: (no reason given)edit on 4-4-2012 by mayabong because: (no reason given)
I ask again, just because I would like to hear your opinion on the matter, what does affordable housing have to do with race?
And as far as my "unattainable" "Utopian" dream goes, It's just socialism man. just plain ole' socialism, and with the viewpoints i've seen in this thread humanity does have a little collective maturing to do before it is realized, but that doesn't mean it's unattainable. Still I say, just wait..edit on 4-4-2012 by boot2theface because: (no reason given)edit on 4-4-2012 by boot2theface because: (no reason given)
Are you saying that race isn't a factor when people apply for Section 8?
Since when did affordable housing become about racial integration?
The courts have recognized that this "affirmatively furthering" duty requires HUD to "do more than simply not discriminate itself; it reflects the desire to have HUD use its grant programs to assist in ending discrimination and segregation
I would want there to be some kind of legitimate requirement that the people living there were either furthering their education in some way or actually working.
I would have absolutely no issues have "affordable housing" in my neighborhood, if I lived in such a neighborhood. I would only ask that it be housing intended for people who are actually making an effort to get somewhere with their life.