Alien Grey caught in photo ?

Originally posted by CT586
reply to post by Falgore

 

The reason it doesn't line up is that the picture of the camera I overlayed isn't oriented the same as the one in the photo (I couldn't find a photo with the correct angle). It's also kind of hard to make out the exact orientation of the camera when you can't see the bottom of the camera in the reflection. From the original photo you can clearly see that the "figures" (more like fingers) are between the camera and the fish tank as they block part of the recflection of the camera.

edit on 14-2-2012 by CT586 because: (no reason given)

That's not true look again in the original picture I posted my camera does not end there where you placed the index finger. Plus the fingers would not cast a darker reflection otherwise my left hand would show up darker as well. Whatever it was it was simply a reflection from behind me. I will post new pics for you to see.

Originally posted by cripmeister
reply to post by Falgore

 

Oh another game of 'can you spot the alien?' How utterly unoriginal...

The only thing unoriginal here is your comment.

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this photo is taken outside of my bathroom

I was crouched on the side of my aquarium a few inches away at the time the photo was taken in question here

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this photo is taken above my aquarium facing towards what was behind me when the photo was taken

give or take it wasn't this messy cause it's mostly my sister's stuff as she was just unpacking her clothes when she came back from college

thanks

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Judging by those latest images, it just makes the opacity photo series shown earlier here seem the most probable cause of your "alien".

Originally posted by gavron
reply to post by Falgore

 

Judging by those latest images, it just makes the opacity photo series shown earlier here seem the most probable cause of your "alien".

Far from improbable did you not read what I posted earlier into this thread or ignoring me like some of the ignorant posters on here ?

judging by some of the comments in this thread it is clear people are avoiding this evidence delibarately regardless of the countless times I have countered anyone's "scientific" claims via pictures and verbally

edit : the latest pictures I provided it wasn't that messy when the original picture in question was taken back in August

I want to thank the people who believe that this photo shows a gray alien and not a reflection from my fingers or rocks and actually looked at the other pictures and listened to what I had to say in this thread. If people want to believe that this is a reflection of my rocks, fingers or a hoax that is their problem at this point as I clearly see denial of the truth from a lot of posters. Ask yourselves why I would come on this site when I could have posted anywhere else or got in contact with some people to get publicity or money out of this ? I came here first cause I had found out / knew about this site a very long time ago prob. back in 2009 and the fact that I spent more time looking and analzying this photo than every single poster or viewer combined in this thread.

Originally posted by Falgore
I want to thank the people who believe that this photo shows a gray alien and not a reflection from my fingers or rocks and actually looked at the other pictures and listened to what I had to say in this thread. If people want to believe that this is a reflection of my rocks, fingers or a hoax that is their problem at this point as I clearly see denial of the truth from a lot of posters. Ask yourselves why I would come on this site when I could have posted anywhere else or got in contact with some people to get publicity or money out of this ? I came here first cause I had found out / knew about this site a very long time ago prob. back in 2009 and the fact that I spent more time looking and analzying this photo than every single poster or viewer combined in this thread.

The reason you did not seek publicity or money for this is because you wouldnt have received any. Thanking people that agree with you is fine and dandy, but just because people disagree with you doesnt mean you should get mad at them( including me). And what does it matter you have analyzed your own photo more than every other person combined? To those of us who only see a rock or finger, we all will agree you just wasted a lot of time.

You think its real? Go ahead and submit this to news outlets who give alien photos the time of day. See what they think? But dont be mad at the world when even the professionals give you the same answer most of us did: its a rock or its a finger.

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Hi, I think that just because people don't believe this is a picture of an alien doesn't mean they are denying the truth. In fact I have spent a bit of my time analysing the image, and posted my opinion along with images to support my view, and I feel that the truth is that it is a reflection and combination of material and lighting conditions.

I wasn't going to post again as I felt the last image I posted was fairly conclusive, but the thread is continuing and I thought to help settle it I could provide a bit more analysis. It is entirely your right to believe as you want, however you shouldn't delude yourself into believing something that isn't true.

In the following image, you can see part of the process I went through. I used about 20 different Colour Range Samples (I've included 2 of them) to clarify different parts of the reflection. I then used context aware selection techniques to select shadowed areas and continuing patterns to isolate and create a composite of the reflection from the background. I have provided a yellow silhouette to highlight the areas of interest, which show the position of the hands holding the camera. I then used the selection set to increase the levels (opacity, hue, saturation, etc.) to clarify the hands. I also added in the camera type in the same position as the camera in the reflection. It matches up almost perfectly, maybe a very slight forward rotational error.

There are specialised algorithms and software to extract reflections form photos, but I don't have access to them at the moment, so I used similar techniques that are automated in those software to duplicate an approximation in Photoshop.



The reason that the left hand is more distinguishable form the right hand, as you have mentioned in a few of your posts, is a combination of lighting conditions (the right hand may have been more shadowed than the left), combined with the internal reflection of the fish tank on the inside of the glass being darker on the right hand side than the left. Completely normal.

I hope this helps clear this up. You are more than welcome to believe otherwise, but the analysis is fairly conclusive.

Keep taking photos, maybe you will catch a grey on camera. I would love to analyse an image that did yield inconclusive results, so always keep believing and trying.

Cheers

reply to post by puzzlesphere
Thank you, puzzlesphere! That is exactly what I was seeing when I was tweaking it in Photoshop as well. Your example clearly shows what we all have been trying to explain.

If I could give more than one star for this post, I would. Fantastic job!

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My right hand wasn't in that position when I took the photo it was in the same position as the left hand. And secondly you still haven't explained the image I circled to the left of what you are claiming to be my fingers at this point. The camera you have in the opacity photos is not that big and it wasn't in a slanted position as you have it in the photos. If you look at the original picture you will clearly see where the camera body ends. If I had the same skills as you I can easily conclude that this is a reflection of my fingers that somehow miraculously formed 3 gray aliens in the reflection. The analysis is far from being conclusive if you read my other thread I made here you'll see why I brought this picture on these forums as I wasn't out hunting to take a photo of an alien gray.


I repeat myself again that is not how my camera was being held and where you placed my fingers holding the camera is not correct just take a second look at the original picture zoomed in you'll see where the body of the camera curves downwards on the right hand side. Your analysis was good better than anyone else's at this point but it's not conclusive.

Originally posted by Falgore
My right hand wasn't in that position when I took the photo it was in the same position as the left hand.

If you look at his example, the right hand is close to mirroring the left, with the exception that your right finger is not on the shutter release. Again, he said he could not compensate for any rotation you may have in relation to the camera to the tank. He has gone above and beyond to show you exactly what you photographed....and I believe it is 100% clear to forum viewers now what exactly you captured on film.

And secondly you still haven't explained the image I circled to the left of what you are claiming to be my fingers at this point.

Other than the scratches in the tank, and your reflection, there is nothing unusual that you circled.

Clearly this whole mystery has been solved. Thanks again, puzzlesphere!!!

Originally posted by gavron

Originally posted by Falgore
My right hand wasn't in that position when I took the photo it was in the same position as the left hand.

If you look at his example, the right hand is close to mirroring the left, with the exception that your right finger is not on the shutter release. Again, he said he could not compensate for any rotation you may have in relation to the camera to the tank. He has gone above and beyond to show you exactly what you photographed....and I believe it is 100% clear to forum viewers now what exactly you captured on film.

And secondly you still haven't explained the image I circled to the left of what you are claiming to be my fingers at this point.

Other than the scratches in the tank, and your reflection, there is nothing unusual that you circled.

Clearly this whole mystery has been solved. Thanks again, puzzlesphere!!!

edit on 17-2-2012 by gavron because: (no reason given)

I find it funny how you are rushing to a conclusion you are very wrong. He still hasn't explained how the other face which is far more distinguishable in the smaller circle on the 2nd photo was formed.

I've gone out of my way and at this point wasted enough of my time more than anyone else on these forums analyzing this photo and if people think that's not being credible well then there's not much else to say here.


Also my camera was in a straight position if you see from an earlier photo I tried to mimick the same angle and my fingers on the right under the same lighting conditions are not creating a shadow.

Originally posted by factbandit
reply to post by Falgore

 

OP, on the second photo I can only see what appears to be a body, but not a face. However, in the first picture, directly across the tank from the body (right side) I see the reflection of what appears to be a Grey. Do not let these folks who do not believe upset you. They have no idea what you have been through or what you continue to go through. I wish you LOVE, LIGHT & PEACE!

I'm not upset at all people like rushing into conclusions all too quickly. Someone came close to explaining what it could be in the photo but it's not conclusive.

Originally posted by Falgore
I've gone out of my way and at this point wasted enough of my time more than anyone else on these forums analyzing this photo....

I think puzzles would disagree with you on this matter. They obviously spent a LOT of time running your photo thru Photoshop (or another photo editor) to pull out what was obviously just your reflection....then went to great effort to screenshot each step in the process, highlight your hands, add the camera, etc etc...

It is obvious that you will only believe it is aliens, even though evidence clearly shows it was not. However, to say others have not gone to a lot of effort to analyze your photo to determine what you saw is just ignorant on your part.

Originally posted by gavron

Originally posted by Falgore
I've gone out of my way and at this point wasted enough of my time more than anyone else on these forums analyzing this photo....

I think puzzles would disagree with you on this matter. They obviously spent a LOT of time running your photo thru Photoshop (or another photo editor) to pull out what was obviously just your reflection....then went to great effort to screenshot each step in the process, highlight your hands, add the camera, etc etc...

It is obvious that you will only believe it is aliens, even though evidence clearly shows it was not. However, to say others have not gone to a lot of effort to analyze your photo to determine what you saw is just ignorant on your part.

The only one ignorant here is you for not taking a closer look at what I'm trying to explain pertaining to his "evidence". Plus I didn't say others didn't spend a lot of time analyzing the photo but most on here didn't I'm pretty sure of it.

Last time I'm going to say this .... my camera body does not end where he pasted the camera in his opacity photos. And that's not how I was holding my camera.

Take a closer look at one of the photos puzzle posted and you will cleary see in the indicative sample he provided the so called "right fingers" do not display the same way my left ones do they cast a different color tone. This was a reflection behind me not my fingers. I'll see if I can post a new photo taking a closer shot on the side of my aquarium and we'll see how my right fingers come out....

Puzzle take a closer look at the photos you provided via photoshop and look at the original photo I posted look where the camera body ends yours does not line up my camera was not being held in that position and my fingers on the right hand side were not like that. Plus look at your very own photos if the image on the right were my fingers then how come they don't cast the same color tone as the left fingers in your photo ? Why is it so much darker ?


I have responded to almost everyone on this thread and posted more photos and I find it disgusting that people would call this a hoax or I have no credibility. I have went out of my way to post more photos and offered explanations but people either choose to not read it or simply ignore the truth. I'd go with the latter at this point.


Puzzle you extended or moved the camera's body from the original position in the original photo I provided. That's not where it meets.


I wonder if people understand how hard it is to try and go out of your way to not only provide "evidence" but to explain yourself to countless posters on here. Put yourself in my shoes before talking nonsense.

Originally posted by Falgore
Last time I'm going to say this .... my camera body does not end where he pasted the camera in his opacity photos.

You said earlier you were using a Olympus FE-4000 camera.

Puzzlesphere got an image of an Olympus FE-4000 on the web, and used that in their example.

Unless you have a customized body on your camera, it will end exactly as it is shown.

Originally posted by gavron

Originally posted by Falgore
Last time I'm going to say this .... my camera body does not end where he pasted the camera in his opacity photos.

You said earlier you were using a Olympus FE-4000 camera.

Puzzlesphere got an image of an Olympus FE-4000 on the web, and used that in their example.

Unless you have a customized body on your camera, it will end exactly as it is shown.

Olympus FE-4000 yes. It doesn't line up look at the photo again look at where the body curves downward and look at the fact it doesn't line up with the "black void" on the right side of the reflection of the camera. Go ahead look again.