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davy jones really existed

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posted on Nov, 22 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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Also named David Jones, is asked if he really existed, since the eighteenth century, according to popular legend of sailors, was a man of the sea or, for some people, a god who tormented sailors to death, attract storms unprepared for ships, confused captains and pilots to make them miss the route of their ships and hitting rocks, reefs, sand-banks-of or enter into dangerous currents, as well as sailors engage in missions so dangerous, that the number of survivors was negligible. It is believed that it could also prolong the life of a dead or half dead by covenant. Perhaps for this reason the equatorial lands, Davy Jones, equivalent to the devil.



someone has a story or some peculiar knowledge about it



posted on Nov, 22 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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The period during which pirates were most successful one was from 1700 until the early 1730s. Many pirates came from the Caribbean, the epidemic End of the War of Spanish Succession, a large number of people were in the Caribbean and became pirates after that. Other pirates arrived in the mid 17th century. Piracy in the Caribbean emerged mirrored to a lesser extent, the conflicts over trade and colonization entrepreneurship with rival European powers of the time, including the empires of Britain, Spain, Netherlands, Portugal and France. Most of these pirates was of English, French and Dutch. Because a majority ma Spanish controlled the Caribbean, many of the cities were attacked by ships belonging to the Spanish Empire and along the east coast of America and the west coast of Africa. Among the most famous Caribbean pirates are Edward Teach "Blackbeard", Calico Jack Rackham and Henry Morgan, while the temperature of Women Pirates Mary Read and Ann Bonny. The island of Tortuga is very interesting about Asmoday, which in French is called Ile de la Tortue, Haiti, Creole, Latòti, Spanish, Isla Tortuga, which means Turtle Island. Tortuga is a Caribbean island that is part of Haiti, off the northwest coast of Hispaniola. The island covers an area of ​​180 km ². In the seventeenth century was a major center of Caribbean piracy[/align]


Since Tortuga was part of Haiti is Haitian voodoo, which Asmoday is highly versed in how the practice of craft, it also has an extensive knowledge in Freemasonry. At the time it's the Haitian Revolution (1791-1804) were already well established several Masonic lodges restoring French settlers in Haiti. The idea of ​​mystical brotherhoods also appealed to Haitians, whose ancestors had developed their own secret societies in Africa. After Independence, joined the Masonic lodges in large numbers and freely used the "imaginary" in other contexts sacred. The All-Seeing Eye, Pyramid, square and compass, "Skull and cross bones", pick, shovel and other funerary symbols are especially prevalent in images that evoke the Loa Baron's samadhi is Ghede whose wife Maman Brigitte which is of English origin . The call Ghede is described as a separate who wears glasses with one lens missing, which indicates the influence of the old Norse shamanic deity known as Odin or otherwise called the Saxon Woden, who was seen to be the God of the Dead. Regarding Ghede and Odin, also known as Woden in relation to the reason that one eye has the archetypal image of a pirate captain wearing an eye patch, that Odin / Woden also used while your eye is unique in its turn, is associated the "All-Seeing Eye" of Freemasonry. One also has to Davy Jones, who is a language for the seabed: the state of death among sailors drowned. It is used as a euphemism for death at sea (to be sent to Davy Jones), whereas the name Davy Jones is a nickname for what would be the God Devil, Ghost, or of the Seas. The origins of the name are unclear and many theories have been proposed, including incompetent sailors, a pub owner who kidnapped sailors, or that Davy Jones is a different name for the devil, as "Devil Jonah". This nautical superstition was popularized in 1800. "This same Davy Jones, according to the sailors is the fiend that presides over all the evil spirits of the abyss, and is often seen in various shapes, perching among the frame on the eve of hurricanes, shipwrecks and other disasters which life on board is exposed, warning the devoted wretch of death and evil. "In the story of Jones is described as having saucer eyes, three rows of teeth, horns, tail and blue smoke from his nostrils





when you look at the name of Davy Jones, in relation to Freemasonry, which took account of Haiti and in turn the Pirate haunt of Tortuga is some intriguing associations, the boy's name 'Davy' as in d ( a)-vy is also used as girl's name Davy, which is a variant of the Hebrew name of David Old English "Davis", the meaning of Davy's "beloved son of David" has a connection with Freemasonry, due to its focus on the well known King Solomon, the son was King David, but this has more to do with the Star of David and a six-pointed star, which is also called the Magen David or Shield of David. The Star of David is the symbol, which is most commonly associated with Judaism today, but it is actually a relatively new Jewish symbol. It is supposed to represent an emblem on a shield of King David, but there really is no support for this request in any one of the first productions of Rabbinic literature. In fact, the symbol is so rare in Early Jewish literature and artwork that art dealers suspected of forgery if they find the symbol in previous works. A Masonic book called The Second Mile, an Eastern Star book, reveals that the "six-pointed star is a very ancient symbol and one of the most powerful." The hexagram is used in magic, witchcraft, sorcery and occultism, as well as the Zodiac horoscopes by astrologers. "It was considered to possess mysterious powers," says a concise Encyclopedia of Freemasonry. As for the name 'Jones' is both a boy and girl's name, which is derived from English and Welsh, English for a male or female, middle of the Jones family of John, while for Wales has the Son of John and Son of the one whose God is merciful; The origin of the name of John: "God is merciful." is the angliquizada Iohannes of America, which comes from the Greek and ultimately from the Hebrew name Yochanan. It is the biblical name, both John the Baptist and John the apostle. This brings us to the history, tradition, customs and rituals of Freemasonry demands or also known as the Art, which holds in veneration the feast days of St. John the Baptist on June 24, and St. John the Evangelist on December 27. Any store 'Blue', which forgets any of these important days of the festival lost a precious link with the past and misses an opportunity to renew the alliance with everything in Freemasonry symbolized by these Patron Saints. However, John the Baptist who lost the head to Salome and St. John was the son of Zebedee and Salome, which actually refers to the ancient Norse god named Mimir. In Norse myth and Germanic Mimir was the wisdom of God, whose head was severed from his body whose 'Skull' came into possession of the Shaman God Odin saw that he guessed the Past, Present and Future. Mimir is also associated with a pit in which Odin sacrificed his eye to Mimir whose name is the root word of the word 'memory'. Both the captain and quartermaster were elected by the crew, which, in turn, appointed other officers of the ship. The captain of a pirate ship was often a fierce fighter in which men could place their trust, rather than a more traditional authority figure sanctioned by an aristocratic 'elite'. However, when not in battle, the quartermaster general had real authority. Many groups of pirates shared in whatever they seized. The pirates injured in battle could be granted a special compensation similar to health insurance or disability. There are contemporary records that many pirates placed a portion of the money raised to a central fund that was used to compensate the damage suffered by the crew. The standard lists show payments of 600 pieces of eight ($ 156,000 in modern money) for the loss of a leg up to 100 pieces ($ 26,800) for the loss of an eye. Often, all these terms have been agreed and written by the pirates, but these items can also be used as incriminating proof that they were bandits. The demon is also mentioned in some Talmudic legends, for example, in the history of the Temple of Solomon Asmodai was supposed by some Renaissance Christians to be the King of the Nine Hells, Asmodeus also is referred to as one of the seven princes of hell. Each of these princes represents one of the Seven Deadly Sins (Pride, Lust, Envy, Sloth, Avarice, Gluttony and Wrath). Asmodeus is the demon of lust, and therefore responsible for the "sexual desire" of people. It is said that people who fall under the influence of 'Asmodeus' will be doomed to an eternity in eternal second level of hell to get in there forever fornicate copulate, which would be a real hell for a Bachelor rabbi, priest and Mullah although the desire to know about it, because they have this fixation on the principle rooted patriarchal Masuline, a sure thing with a Succubus (Druden) of Asmoday would truly horrify them! The "Seven Virtues" and that of their counterparts 'Seven Sins' are very much associated with the Hindu system of the body of the "Seven Energy Centers" of the so-called "Chakras" which are also associated with seven planetary spheres and the corresponding metals in Alchemy that using the Ouroboros ring, to cover. The "Seven Sins" are emotional states of being, who gave too much will bring imbalances in relation to the chakras, which are perceived as having a physiological correspondence with the chemical producing glands. The "Seven Virtues" are more of an intellectual "self-analysis


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posted on Nov, 22 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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I have an excellent book on Pirates (the history of), the name of which i cannot for the life of me remember. I will consult it when i get home and see if i can find more information - i am sure there is something on Davy Jones in there.

One thing the book is good for is dispelling the myths about Pirates - talk about a hard life! Very few achieved much through piracy - short term gain soon turned into long term torment! Obviously though there are exception like Sir Henry Morgan (sheer genius IMO making the nuns and monks first up the walls at Panama and absorbing the cannon fire for them!).



posted on Nov, 22 2011 @ 09:32 AM
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The best book is A General History of the Pyrates en.wikipedia.org... written by a still unknown pseudonymous author, generally guessed to have been Defoe.

The entire book was a political hot potato at the time. Not because it was a bunch of bs, but that it exposed the truth exemplified by the pirates of Somalia today: there can never be piracy without government collusion. Where can these pirates sell their stolen booty?

As far as Davy Jones, it was hard to decipher that wall of gibberish above, but there are some nuggets within it. Davy Jones is basically a new version of Nereus, in Greek mythology the Old Man of the Sea, taker of the souls of those lost at sea, father of the Nereids, all the mermaids and sirens.



posted on Nov, 22 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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The book i have actually touches on this version and explains a few other hypothesis. I will definitely dig it out tonight and see what i can find. It is years since i read it but my ailing memory seems to recall the theory that Captain Johnson was actually one of the famous pirates himself (rather than Defoe) but does also show a few other theories.

It is a quality publication and shreds the myths surrounding many (in)famous pirates and their acts. Most were basically pretty damn useless to be honest!



posted on Nov, 22 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Thank you guys very nice guys is also mentioned that Dayvid jones vooduu had strong relations with the heart of anyone who could Dayvid Jones was destined to complete its life cycle as a monster



posted on Nov, 22 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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some speculation can be located where the heart of Davy Jones



posted on Nov, 22 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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tightly associated with a god of the sea which leads to their locker davy jones associated with the souls of purgatory, which he heads

says he hid his heart in a desert island or in a very peculiar place inhospitable to find common knowledge who completed the cycle of the monster and become davy jones


he was also betrayed by a woman and serves to protect the sailors from falling in love radiating sharp bitterness that surrounds our eyes memories



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Flavian
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The book i have actually touches on this version and explains a few other hypothesis. I will definitely dig it out tonight and see what i can find. It is years since i read it but my ailing memory seems to recall the theory that Captain Johnson was actually one of the famous pirates himself (rather than Defoe) but does also show a few other theories.

It is a quality publication and shreds the myths surrounding many (in)famous pirates and their acts. Most were basically pretty damn useless to be honest!

cool



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 10:57 PM
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Wasn't he one of the Monkees?




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