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Originally posted by Forevever
reply to post by 2manyquestions
sorry - why do we need MTV? we have youtube...
I believe its called Evolution
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Originally posted by Forevever
reply to post by 2manyquestions
sorry - why do we need MTV? we have youtube...
I believe its called Evolution
Why do we need MTV when we have Youtube? Maybe because I don't feel like stepping away from what I'm doing every 4 minutes so I can search and change it to the next video. If I could compile a list of videos I want to play non-stop from Youtube, maybe I wouldn't need MTV. Until that becomes a possibility and until streaming high definition videos from Youtube is an uninterrupted process, MTV is still desired in my household.
My GF does. I'm still prying her from nostalgia and neurosis. At least Cool TV is tolerable.
Originally posted by cybro
Do people still watch television? That's like listening to music on a record player or starting a fire by rubbing two sticks together.
Originally posted by cybro
Do people still watch television? That's like listening to music on a record player or starting a fire by rubbing two sticks together.
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Originally posted by Forevever
reply to post by 2manyquestions
sorry - why do we need MTV? we have youtube...
I believe its called Evolution
Why do we need MTV when we have Youtube? Maybe because I don't feel like stepping away from what I'm doing every 4 minutes so I can search and change it to the next video. If I could compile a list of videos I want to play non-stop from Youtube, maybe I wouldn't need MTV. Until that becomes a possibility and until streaming high definition videos from Youtube is an uninterrupted process, MTV is still desired in my household.
Originally posted by Forevever
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Originally posted by Forevever
reply to post by 2manyquestions
sorry - why do we need MTV? we have youtube...
I believe its called Evolution
Why do we need MTV when we have Youtube? Maybe because I don't feel like stepping away from what I'm doing every 4 minutes so I can search and change it to the next video. If I could compile a list of videos I want to play non-stop from Youtube, maybe I wouldn't need MTV. Until that becomes a possibility and until streaming high definition videos from Youtube is an uninterrupted process, MTV is still desired in my household.
ok so why do you need Video's if you're doing something else? Its not like you're watching them....youtube does playlists too, as mentioned above
Not good enough? Make a music playlist on itunes? (or another similar service?)
Can't decide what to listen to? you have any idea how many free radio stations there are online?
Anyway, there's a guy on page one, who said MTV sucking is old news. He's right. I can't remember the last time MTV was any good. Pre-1997, I know that much. Long time.... mourning period been over.
Thanks for catching up though!
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
reply to post by JohnPhoenix
Thanks for the link! I'm trying it right now. So far the only problem is that it seems to break up a lot, and features 80's music only. The picture is pretty small too. Didn't see anyplace where I can maximize the window.
Originally posted by notquiteright
Originally posted by AJ1123TKE
I work in the entertainment media and as part of my job often have to analyze programming across networks ... and i hear people say "where's the music video's" with regard to MTV all of the time... let me explain...
Television is a business, all media is a business, and they (with the exception of Satellite Radio or Premium Cable (ie, HBO, Showtime, etc)) are fully funded by ad sales dollars which are based on ratings. Their programming is their product, and unless their product is worth money, they're not going to produce it.
Music video blocks simply no longer rate, in fact, they rate awfully, no matter what time of day they air. It's a simple cost benefit analysis. Paying for the HUGE music marketing rights to air a music video trumps that of the proportional ad sales revenue that the music video would bring in due to lack of ratings. Would you air something that made you LOSE money? Of course not.
Furthermore, you have to consider, the way people ingest music has changed drastically in the past 5, 10 and 15 years. Think about it...honestly, how do you ingest music?
I know that when i was a kid, 15-20 years ago, i would come home from school and turn on MTV to catch TRL and find out what the newest songs were going to be -- it was a ritual, and it was the source for music for my generation. We didn't have iPods, high speed internet, social networks ... things were very different. TRL, and the evening radio was the ONLY way we got the newest music (which was crucial in being cool for a school kid!)
Now --and be honest - how do you "discover" music? Do you no longer listen to music b/c you don't see videos on TV? C'mon! Even if there was a daily block of music videos on MTV, VH1, Fuse, etc... would you really watch and "discover"? Of course not. We ingest music on demand. No one likes to tune in when they have to, we like the freedom of checking out the iTunes top 10, or reading blogs, or checking our "likes" on facebook.
Amazon, iTunes, The social networking game and Google has changed everything. The internet is the most powerful weapon in music's history. The record industry (labels) cry that their bottom lines are hurting due to illegal downloads ... but they ripped of consumers and artists for years. Now, the artists have more exposure than ever, and it's almost ALL online. An artists doesn't need their music videos played on MTV or VH1 to be blindingly successful. Revenue from tours are through the roof b/c the paradigm has changed. Artists don't produced to sell a million records any more, they produce to sell out a 100 shows, that's where the real money (and satisfaction) is. Thanks to social networking they get to interact freely with their fans and spread the word more efficiently when they're coming to town for a show.
....And with regards to their other programming ...come on, don't act like you haven't gotten sucked into a True Life or Sweet 16 marathon ... or for that matter, a Mythbuster's marathon on Discovery, or a Best Thing I Ever Ate marathon on the Food Network.
Every television station, no matter what their area of focus, is tasked with the same challenge... keep and HOLD the viewers attention... and again, think about music videos ... what do you do if you hear a song you hate on the radio? you change the station. that's the LAST thing a TV station wants its viewership to do.
Entertainment media is all about pop culture and engaging the core demographic that the entity has identified. It's all about who has the ability to create pop culture. That's why shows like Jersey Shore (love it or hate it) do so incredibly well. It's the Howard Stern affect -- people who love the show watch it, and people who HATE the show watch it, and it equates to massive ratings.
Aren't we leaving out the most important factor here? The cost to produce reality TV is much less than more traditional programming which requires skilled professionals as opposed to every Tom, Dick, and Harry who just wants to be on TV.
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
Old MTV is Alive and Well - in the form of "pirate" website Broccoli TV .com www.broccoli-tv.com...
The website slogan is "Broccoli TV is - MTV - The way it Used to be"