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Originally posted by crappiekat
reply to post by Dav1d
Hi Dav1d;
I have gone back to page 49 on this thread and I can not find your post that has film about the gas can and a cell phone. I would be very appreciated if you could lead me to this. Thank you in advance.you
As far as my information to debunk this: I have seached "Youtobe" and could not find anything. I also got a reply from "Valhall" from " The Hinky meter" and she has not heard of this either.
I am not trying to be a poo head or to make you look bad. We just can't find this info. If you could please repost your finding it would be much appreciated.edit on 27-10-2011 by crappiekat because: Just to add
Originally posted by Dav1d
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — Kansas City police have wrapped up a brief search at a small lake near the home where a 10-month-old baby was reported missing more than three weeks ago.
Police said the search Thursday at Chaumiere (SHO'-meer) Lake was not prompted by a tip but was another area near the child's home that needed to be searched.
Police spokesman Darin Snapp says the search lasted only about an hour and nothing of significance was found.
Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin reported their daughter, Lisa Irwin, missing Oct. 4. Police have conducted several searches and fielded many tips but say they no suspects in the case.
Police spokesman Darin Snapp says the search lasted only about an hour and nothing of significance was found.
After searching the area for several hours, investigators left without finding any evidence in connection with the Lisa Irwin investigation.
Five gunshots struck a Kansas City school bus full of football players before it raced away from the district field at the former Southeast High School Friday night.
Original police reports that night did not confirm a shooting, he said, and emails sent between administrators were unclear or discovered late, he said.
“There is not any excuse for not having closed those loops,” Rounds said at tonight’s school board meeting.
The police report noted that officers did go to the football field Friday night on a reported shooting, but they did not find any victims.
Read more: www.kansascity.com...
The department's Crimes Against Children unit is overseeing the crime. The unit is within the Special Victims area. Capt. Mark Folsom is the unit's commander.
Folsom was the lead detective in the investigation of the Waldo area rapes that terrorized that neighborhood in 2009 and 2010. Folsom is known as a methodical and tireless detective who is camera shy. The department came under scathing criticism from Waldo area residents and even some council members for not making a quick arrest in the attacks and for seemingly having few leads.
While Folsom and his detectives focused on making an arrest, few details leaked about potential suspects before Bernard Jackson was arrested in May 2010 in connection with a series of Waldo area rapes in the 1980s. Jackson was convicted this summer and sentenced earlier this month to life in prison for those rapes. He is still awaiting trial in connection with charges involving the more recent Waldo rapes.
Cyndy Short, attorney for Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, said in an emailed statement that she is postponing all appointments in Kansas City for Thursday and Friday until next week.
Police have said there are no suspects in the disappearance.
The family had resisted, despite investigators saying they really needed to speak with the boys to find out anything from that night and also get DNA samples to try and eliminate some DNA they found in baby Lisa's home.
This signals a small thawing of relationships between the famly and investigators. Investigators say they need the family open for interviews without conditions. While the family is saying we need certain conditions.
It's been over two weeks since police have been able to interview the mother, Deborah Bradley, or the father, Jeremy Irwin. Until they can do that, they will have a dificult time making signifigant progress in this case.
KC Police Chief Darryl Forte knows all about the criticisms aimed at his department by attorneys for the parents of baby Lisa Irwin.
But on Wednesday, in a meeting with The Star’s Editorial Board, Forte said the police are “not trying to vilify the family.”
The police have good reasons for doing what they are doing, the chief added. That’s essentially a response to the attorneys, who have indicated the police have been overbearing in their treatment of the parents, implying they were involved in the disappearance of baby Lisa.
Forte said he wouldn’t comment further on the case, adding that the department has one spokesman - Steve Young - handling the crushing number of local and national media requests about this matter.
Why so reticent? Joking or not, Forte said this strategy was designed to hold down the number of subpoenas that might be issued in the future regarding the case.
To me, this was a broad hint that, as many people expect, this case is not going to end well, either for baby Lisa Irwin or for her parents.
The abysmal choices and questionable behavior of baby Lisa’s mom and dad have left them exposed. One result of their failure to eliminate themselves as suspects in baby Lisa’s disappearance is that her parents are being tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. They and their representatives claim that they are being scapegoated; that the authorities have to pin the crime on someone and that the parents are the obvious choices.
However, there are too many law enforcement professionals with too much experience from too many agencies for that to be true.
The FBI, who has been involved since the beginning of the investigation has prioritized missing children since 1993.
They have a written protocol and agents that are specifically trained in missing child investigations.
Given their standing in the law enforcement community and the resource that they bring to bear on missing person cases, it would be counterproductive and reflect badly on the agency to force blame on innocent and suffering parents.
82% of all abductions involve a family member. Therefore, once a child has been reported missing law enforcement is going to focus resource and attention on family members. To do otherwise would be irresponsible. It is in the best interest of the child, the family and the investigation for family members to fully cooperate with the authorities so that they can eliminate themselves from suspicion and allow law enforcement to focus on other possible scenarios.
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Kansas City police say Joe Tacopina, attorney for Lisa Irwin’s family, has canceled an interview with Lisa’s half-brothers.
It was scheduled for Friday. It will supposedly be rescheduled for sometime next week.
Lisa’s half-brothers were to be interviewed for the first time since the day the 11-month-old girl disappeared.
Today’s planned interviews of Lisa Irwin’s two brothers has been postponed.
It may never happen now, because the case took a bizarre turn late Thursday as two attorneys for the family appeared to be in open conflict.
Kansas City attorney Cyndy Short said she had heard reports that New York lawyer Joe Tacopina had fired her from the case.
“He’s not in a position to fire anyone,” Short told The Star. “I work for the client, not him.”
But Short said that if she has her way, the interviews with the brothers, ages 8 and 5, would likely never happen — for the sake of the boys and the case. The brothers were interviewed earlier, and she’s worried about additional trauma to them.
“I’ve done research and see more potential for harm than good with the interview,” Short said late Thursday. “It won’t happen tomorrow and maybe never.”
- ABC News is reporting that Kansas City attorney Cyndy Short is no longer representing the parents of missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin.
ABC News reported on Friday morning that Short was forced off the case overnight. No other details were released.
News of Short's firing came hours after Joe Tacopina, the New York attorney representing Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, abruptly canceled an interview that was supposed to take place with baby Lisa's siblings. The two boys were scheduled to be interviewed by a child expert on Friday. Deborah Bradley has said the boys were inside the home the night baby Lisa disappeared.