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If you accept this, that he did what the police failed to do.... Which I accept. The next logical questions are why did they fail, and have they failed to do other things as well? It appears that the man identified had a close working relationship with detectives. Do we ignore that? Do we pretend it doesn't matter? If we assume for a minute that such a relationship exist can it suggest a reason for why the police might have failed to pursue a certain lead? At best that is an assumption it doesn't mean it's true, but it may give us a potential reason.
CNN recently reported that White's spokesman said it would be "years" before there are answers about Lisa's disappearance.
"There's no case," CNN quoted spokesman Jim Roberts as saying. "If it gets solved, it'll get solved years from now."
White said it was an offhand remark taken out of context by the reporter.
"That was a mischaracterization of what Mr. Roberts said," White said. "It was an offhanded comment he probably regrets at this time and wishes he hadn't made."
White said "no comment" when asked specific questions about the investigation and whether he believes an arrest will be made in connection with Lisa's disappearance.
Originally posted by schmae
I have a random question for everyone, just sort of a poll please.... who believese that a call, ANY CALL, was made to Megan's phone from an irwin/bradley phone at any point that evening?
Ron Rugen KansascityPiposted toJustice for Lisa Irwin Tomorrow on my blog, I'll discuss a followup interview I had today with a former roommate of Megan Wright (the Baby Lisa cell phone lady). The roommate saw Dane use Megan's cell numerous times through the night. When this person got out of bed after midnight, they saw Dane in panic-mode, huddled in the dark, in a corner of the house on the cell phone. It will be at Kansascitypi.blogspot.com...
Ron Rugen KansascityPi Upon consideration of the information I have, I decided not to print the blog and give it to authorities instead. Realistically, upon consideration, it's not responsible for me to print this when my source wont go on the record it makes it seem like gossip.
Ron Rugen KansascityPi No no no...dont speculate or start a rumor. What I said above is honest and factual. I want to be responsible and don't want to not hand information over to authorities thus hindering their investigation.
Ron Rugen KansascityPi I just can't confirm whether my source's alleged eyewitness account is factual and as a former journalist, I need to in my mind. With all due respect, they could have an axe to grind with the players involved. Or it could be it's true and just doesn't want to have the media spotlight and wants privacy. Without knowing, I can't move forward with the information not knowing if it's gossip.
Rugen Team Investigations, LLC Missouri Private Investigator While I was on air, Megan replied to my email, "I had that number for 3 or 4 months before this happened. Prior to that I didn't have a phone for about 8 months."
However, revelations discovered by private investigator Ron Rugen may prove otherwise. After speaking to several eyewitnesses and people residing in Wright’s home at the time of Lisa’s disappearance, Wright had only had that particular phone and phone number for about a month before the baby vanished
Originally posted by schmae
reply to post by Dav1d
Honestly David, I was leaning more toward intentional obstruction by LE, which should have thrilled you . I just wonder since Gil has helped cops in the past and must KNOW the drill, why he would do this. Did someone from KCPD prompt him to or even give him the go ahead, knowing it would taint the witness. Then they discount the sightings and go back to square one ie: parents ! I'm not SAYING it is so, only suggesting it as apossibility. Or rather asking if that seems plausible ? It was just such an amateur move from a guy who one would think might know better.
Originally posted by gabby2011
I agree its wrong to be close minded either way..
I also have to add that it is wrong for the law enforcement to be close minded as well.. They are doing their job in suspecting that it could be the parents..but their expertise in how they extract a confession from any guilty party is very important..not only concerning the parents but all other possible suspects as well.
Originally posted by schmae
reply to post by gabby2011
I think it is James Brando and not Jersey. I THINK, not sure. But Gil Abeyto put james brandos pic in with the others and the mtotorcycle driving witness to man with baby walking, picked out Brando. Brandos' wife Samanth is the neighbor deb was drinking with. It is also the house that Jeremy says he ran to at 4 am to see if Lisa ws there. It is ALSO, lest we forget, the house that police searched and removed a lot of bags of things from and implored the media to NOT take pics of anything removed from the house. Remember that day? We thought how odd? So Brandos' PLURAL are definitely i n the thick of it. Doesn't mean they are guilty of anything but they definitely have been looked at , talked to etc. Oh and Brando pt on his FB that he was an electronic surveillance specialist for SPRINT, and I think this is where David thinks he' s wroking closely with police. Because under a definitiiton of electronic surveillance for sprint, it lists aiding law enforement , etc.
Originally posted by gabby2011
He did what the police seemed to have failed to do..up to that point..and that is try and get a concrete ID on the man who was seen.
Originally posted by gabby2011
I can't say for sure that the police haven't tried to find the identity of this man.. but it seems odd that they did not set up pics for identification very soon after having all possible suspects associated .
Originally posted by gabby2011
I would be very interested in hearing what the couple has to say about the man they saw carrying a child..these are important leads.. and are "key' factors to this investigation in my opinion.
Keep in mind that all parties can talk to the media with the exception of law enforcement. They will be restricted on what info they can release since any disclosure could jeopradize evidence / leads / suspects etc. We dont know all of the info the police have gathered, and to play devils advocate there might be a reason they are focusing on the parents. The police may very well have incriminating evidence in their possession but arent entirely sure how it fits into the puzzle yet. Its a balancing act, especially in cases like this where you have victims who are also possible suspects.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Consider that as law enforcement, we are required to follow certain alws / procedures in gathering information where a private investigator operates under a completely different criteria.
Originally posted by Dav1d
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Consider that as law enforcement, we are required to follow certain alws / procedures in gathering information where a private investigator operates under a completely different criteria.
I wonder what the statment analysis might make out of that typo? A hidden meaning? An issue with following certain laws?
Originally posted by schmae
reply to post by Dav1d
The longer it goes on the clearer it is that LE is guilty of something, hopefully 'merely' incompetence and not something more sinister.
Here's the bottom line.
SOMEONE IS FAILING LISA !
Either the police are failing in their investigation OR
The parents are obstructing the investigation.
Until she is found and we know what happened, we don't know who's failed really.
Neither police or family have spoken much at all in 3 weeks or better. Who can really say what is going on
behind the scenes. I do think that casey anthony plays in here. If the cops think they know mom did it but do
not have the supporting evidence to convict, why arrest her and get the ball rolling so it can end in a fiasco
like anthony trial at a cost of millions to tax payers?
"We don't feel any pressure to accuse anybody," Kansas City police spokesman Capt. Steve Young told the Kansas City Star. "We are under pressure to do what we can to find a child."
Originally posted by gabby2011
What I have a problem with is the assumption that the parents are guilty.... and the trash talk about them like some episode of 'mean girls".