Libyan Rebels Advance Into Central Tripoli !!

Cant stoop wwatching

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reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


When someone who was there starts conversation with you, you still deny any of his arguments and you stay ignorant. Serbs did in fact start the war and took the first blood. After unrest of Kosovo they started rebelling in Croatia and they attacked local police near Zadar and killed them. Guess what, one of the policeman was even Serb. So Serbian rebels killed two Croatian police officers while one of them was Serb. That was on end of 1990.

After that Serbian rebels attacked Croatian police on many other places. Also remember that in this time Croatian army was very weak because they had no weapons while Serbs had most of the Yugoslav weapons.

But this is not the topic. Don't compare fall of Yugoslavia with fall of regime in Libya. Of course west had interests in both wars but please don't compare them.

PC games are already created how Libyan ruler tries to buy an atom bomb and blow the US.

Here is the link:

www.gamespot.com...

Game name: Global Ops: Commando Libya

Global Ops: Commando Libya
(PC)

"Global Ops: Commando Libya puts players in a US special unit that must stop a bomb deal from taking place while having to recover the bomb.
You find out that a notorious Russian Mafia boss and weapons dealer has an atom bomb for sale. You and the CIA learn of his plans to sell the bomb to the Libyan ruler. You must gather your team to stop a potential terrorist attack against the US. Global Ops: Commando Libya features dynamic third-person action with a large array of modern weapons. There are nine single-player levels and about eight hours of gameplay. Additionally, you can experience multiplayer on six maps with nine other players. Play through diverse mission styles, including urban warfare, vehicle combat, and guerrilla action."

Nice try to manipulate people's consciousness through games.

Next series in the game: Global Ops: Commando Sirya?

reply to post by dario86


Don't listen to agent USA anyways. It's no secret that Serbia started the Bosnian war. No offense but I also read somewhere that Croats were on the side of the Serbs during the Bosnian war and found out that the Serbs were killing the Croats as much as Bosniaks so in 1994 Croats join the side the Bosniaks.

It's funny though that Serbia was on the allied side fighting against the Nazis during the Second World War and now in the 1990s Balkans, they acted the same way as the Nazis did in the Second World War. I mean it annoys me when Serbs talk how strong they are yet killing and raping civilians is the purpose for this? LOL.

The Iraqi Army during the seven month of Iraqi occupation of Kuwait was the same way during the Persian Gulf War after the August 2-4, 1990, invasion of Kuwait by the Iraqi Army. The Iraqi Army killed many Kuwaiti civilians by the use of torture, whipping, public hanging, cutting health care for poor/educated/starving Kuwaiti civilians in favor of the Iraqi Army only, intentionally targeting family members, and shot the boys/girls age 17-19 five of them per day, and rape a lot of Kuwaiti woman everyday.

Same way what Gaddafi's troops were trying to do to it's own citizens.

reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin


Ill just leave this here:

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Originally posted by e11888
reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin

 

Ill just leave this here:

www.telegraph.co.uk...

That's not important for the party people here, just like this one

www.telegraph.co.uk...


None of the "heroes" here, celebrating the fall of Gaddafi, has come up with a solution or even attempted to comment those links.

I think it is this "I want to be on the winners side" mentality ...

Just heard a report on the BBC from Rupert Wingfield-Hayes, embedded with the rebels on their drive into Tripoli, that regardless of what NATO is saying, they have been providing close air support to the rebels all the way into Tripoli, opening every blockage for them.

They are also flying over Tripoli, where Gaddafi still has support, with some shelling from loyalist armour and artillery taking place.

Wingfield-Hayes's column ran into a heavy ambush and had to withdraw. That is the sort of situation that NATO aircraft have been cleaning up for the rebels.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by tommyjo

 

since aljazeera is part of the Qatar Goverment mouthpiece i wouldnt use them as a source, sorry oh and same goes for www.dotspress.com..

They are all part in the western mainstream lying team just as they were with iraq.

Those news outlets are quoting from the OPCW press releases. Why is it so hard for you to understand that Libya declared its WMD stocks and invited the international community to assist in the destruction? It takes time and money to dispose of such munitions in a safe manner. The timetable for all the weapons to be destroyed was May 15, 2011. The OPCW has already stated that the Libyan uprising in February disrupted the destruction of the remaining mustard gas. That is why the OPCW issued the warning to Libya that it was their responsibility to safeguard them as they were still signatories to the treaty.

Go and read the history of Libya joining the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC)

www.opcw.org...


www.opcw.org...

From

www.opcw.org...

Why not contact the OPCW? Why not find out direct from source if any of the OPCW statements by named OPCW officials are incorrect?

www.opcw.org...

The facts speak for themselves that up until February 2011 there was still part of a mustard gas stockpile.

What next? Will you be accusing the OPCW of being part of the NWO?

This situation is no different to the UN inspection teams destroying WMD found in Iraq. Just like Libya the work in Iraq was interrupted. UN teams were still finding and destroying Iraqi mustard gas and munitions up until one month before the 2003 invasion.

www.iaea.org...

TJ

I'll just throw this fuel on the fire for those already feeling the burn



This video was uploaded 13th July 2011 and claims to be reports on what was really happening inside Libya

The following report from RT seems to indicate that the government counter attack in Tripoli is emanating from the heart of Gaddafi's neighborhood in Tripoli. If so, it can only be a matter of time before these forces are destroyed from the air. I wonder if we will see a "Warthog" over Tripoli. That would be the last veil off the intensions of NATO in this affair.

rt.com...

Gaddafi’s son Khamis is leading loyalist forces towards central Tripoli in a government counter-offensive against rebel forces that have been already celebrating an easy victory over Colonel Gaddafi.
Early on Monday morning, tanks rolled out of Muammar Gaddafi’s Tripoli residence and began shelling the rebels who had gathered near the compound as sustained heavy gunfire was heard in the Libyan capital.

The tanks are being supported by pick-up trucks with heavy machineguns mounted on them, used by government forces to suppress rebel fire on Assarin Street and in al-Khalifa area.

More government tanks have been reported in the port of Tripoli.

Muammar Gaddafi’s whereabouts remain unknown.

RT is also carrying speculation that the penetration of Tripoli might be a trap being sprung on the rebels, but that kind of thing is difficult to take seriously, given NATO's air superiority.

reply to post by murch


Thanks for the link. Ive been looking for a live video feed from Tripoli. At the moment, it seems pretty quiet there, except for the massive amount honking. Must be alot of traffic there at the moment. (literally, the honking is the loudest thing going on at the moment)

Ive been watching for around 30 minutes, and there has been tiny amounts of gunfire, but nothing that sounds heavy.

Originally posted by ipsedixit
I wonder if we will see a "Warthog" over Tripoli.

A-10s will not be used. They were used early in the conflict but were withdrawn from operations. The weapon of choice, if required in such built up areas, will be Brimstone deployed from Tornado GR4 or Hellfire from drones. The heavy armour reported around Gaddafi strongholds will probably be dealt with by those small warhead munitions?

Dual mode Brimstone on Tornado GR4

www.raf.mod.uk...

www.raf.mod.uk...

TJ

The rebels haven't done much, NATO aka USA and its bitches around the world bombed all bases and posts where Ghaddafis army are and once the its cleared these puppet rebels roll in on their cars shoot the few people that survive the airstrikes.

The Media is emphasizing the "rebels involvement" so that it looks like its the people who are fighting against a government who has treated them terribly.

The same people who pay for the weapons are the same people that own these media outlets and they decide what is written, filmed and published to us readers.

Nato is not only bombing the army but big parts of villages as well... once the fighting is over (in about 2 weeks or so) the Libyans will need to rebuild and that wont be possible without HELP, help that will come from the same Nations that bombed their country, in the first place... that help will cost them, and it will be paid with all that oil that made Libya rich.

Im not saying that the Ghaddafi is a good man, he is a power and money hungry dictator and stayed in power for too long but he´s done things for his country that other countries in Africa, South america and Asia dream of.
He build roads (working ones) all over the country, schools, hospitals and much much more.
Even countries such as Uganda manage to get back on its feet with the help of the Libyan Government and its money.

If it wasn't for him, the US would still be taking all the african and middle eastern oil for nothing and selling it expensive to the rest of the world.

He made all others wake up and stop being played by the "enlightened ones", that's why the power nation started losing money around the late 90s and these witch hunts on leaders of countries with natural resources began in the first place. Notice your gas prices the past few years??

Im just saying, if i were Libyan.. i´d rather see my own government put half of the nations money in their own pockets and do good things the other half than to see the UN take it all while bombing the # out of the country.

No wonder the city fell that fast. Special Forces guided (obvious) sleeper cells in Tripoli and NATO ships delivering Jihadists and heavy weapons. Looks like another clear violation of the UN resolution.




NATO SLAUGHTER IN TRIPOLI: "Operation Mermaid Dawn" Signals Assault by Rebels' Al Qaeda Death Squads

Tripoli, Libya, Aug. 22, 2011, 1 AM CET– On Saturday evening, at 8pm, when the hour of Iftar marked the breaking of the Ramadan fast, the NATO command launched its “Operation Mermaid Dawn” against Libya.

The Sirens were the loudspeakers of the mosques, which were used to launch Al Qaeda’s call to revolt against the Qaddafi government. Immediately the sleeper cells of the Benghazi rebels went into action. These were small groups with great mobility, which carried out multiple attacks. The overnight fighting caused 350 deaths and 3,000 wounded.

The situation calmed somewhat on Sunday during the course of the day.

Then, a NATO warship sailed up and anchored just off the shore at Tripoli, delivering heavy weapons and debarking Al Qaeda jihadi forces, which were led by NATO officers.

Fighting stared again during the night. There were intense firefights. NATO drones and aircraft kept bombing in all directions. NATO helicopters strafed civilians in the streets with machine guns to open the way for the jihadis.

In the evening, a motorcade of official cars carrying top government figures came under attack. The convoy fled to the Hotel Rixos, where the foreign press is based. NATO did not dare to bomb the hotel because they wanted to avoid killing the journalists. Nevertheless the hotel, which is where I am staying, is now under heavy fire.

At 11:30pm, the Health Minister had to announce that the hospitals were full to overflowing. On Sunday evening, there had been 1300 additional dead and 5,000 wounded.

NATO had been charged by the UN Security Council with protecting civilians in Libya. In reality, France and Great Britain have just re-started their colonial massacres.

At 1am, Khamis Qaddafi came to the Rixos Hotel personally to deliver weapons for the defense of the hotel. He then left. There is now heavy fighting all around the hotel.

globalresearch.ca...

I agree with your post Eniii,i see it the same way.

Its interesting how NATO only "helps" middle eastern countries or states that have oil...

reply to post by Eniii


I do agree with this, but the bottom line is, the every day person on the ground, regardless of country, is the one that will suffer no matter what. I think Gaddafi, no matter what people say, did a lot for his people, but at the same time didn't do a great deal for Libya, just what he considered his people.
When you look at what he done, he probably did more than what most Western governments do for their people. However, the problem with Libya is no matter what people say it was like before Gaddafi, the younger generations now only see what he isn't doing for them. I'm not a liberal, in fact some may call me a National Socialist, but I'm someone that very much believes in each country looking after their own, regardless of political affiliation and each country not getting involved in other's affairs, unless there is an overwhelming evidence that suggests that there is great suffering at the hands of the governing body of that country.
However, Gaddafi did neglect the East, treating them with contempt but that is a factor that plagues African nations, the division of tribes that once sat independent of each other, now united under one country but that still very much hate each other.
Gaddafi was and is a military man, not a politician, he governed as a military man, keeping the tribes central to Tripoli happy and content. Once this new mob set it and the deals are made, the Libyans will regret the day that they ever rejoiced Gaddafi's fall, yes he may have favoured part of the country and neglected the other, but now the whole country will be neglected.

Expect Libya to become the new Afghanistan and every asset that it holds to become privately owned and not by any individual in Libya. History will show that Gaddafi wasn't the greatest thing to happen to Libya as a whole, but his defeat will be one of the worst things to happen.

reply to post by BillyBoBBizWorth


This is not just about oil, this is also about water and money, but primarily money. When a country like Libya with it's vast wealth, is totally out of the radar and control of the IMF, BIS etc then it must be brought in line. Gaddafi would never have allowed the central banking system to exist within Libya, Libya's money is Libya's money, even if Libya as a whole may only see a fraction of it. I can bet now that give it a month and a central banking system will be up and running, a while later, outside companies controlling water and energy, then oil. Oil is no longer the be all and end all of war. Water is the new resource to rage war over, ask Israel. Oil is important, but nowhere near as important as water. As for money, well to the banking cartel you cannot get anymore important than that!

Regardless of how right or wrong people think NATO is in this case (personally, I agree with their actions.. the "wrong" done by the current regime in Libya FAR outweighs any supposed good), it's nice to see NATO actually DOING something, other than flapping its collective jaws.

Of course Tripoli must fall, and it must happen this week. Why? Because UNSC1970 and 73 only have until September before they require renegotiating. China and Russia will not hesitate in vetoing further action after the way NATO have broken every regulation in creating this supposed 'no-fly zone'.

Now, we see the money players emerging, distinctly Russia China and Brazil (all members of the SCO) losing out on billions worth of oil contracts www.reuters.com... Russia and China have spoken out against troops found on the ground, the break in the arms embargo and the indiscriminate firing of NATO artillery and would certainlyu not condone any further sanctions once 1970/73 have run their course.

Of course Ghadafi's children, who were welcome in the UK for their studies (Saif Islam) up until 2008, are now internatuional war criminals ... of course they are, and therefore so are his UK contacts, including many a parliamentarian: www.guardian.co.uk... - but look; Blair, Mandelson, Rothschild - maybe he did learn from the worst of the worst international war criminals after all.

I only hope that the Libyans themselves, and not these so called 'rebels' from other nationalities, can rise up and confront the onslaught from NATO and their arabian cohorts long enough to drag this through the UNSC once more. I would LOVE to see NATO's atrocities played out in front of the United Nations for all the world to see and loathe. I just know that Assad must be breathing a sigh of relief that NATO have NO CHOICE but to conquer Libya this week; how is it that he can get away with actual murders of civilians when we saw NOT ONE in Libya before the resolution... you heard me - NOT ONE. But Syria can crack on because their pilot's are trained by Russia and we're actually a little bit scared of those guys. Well, venezeulas just pulled all it's gold out of the UK. Wait and see how the rest of the SCO react in recent weeks. China will dump their dollars if this continues, it's plain as day that's where this is going. So well done those supporting NATO, ultimately you're supportingthe demise of your own economic, and thereafter, political freedoms. Could you be any less informed? Yes, I'm talking to page 1.

Originally posted by fleabit
Regardless of how right or wrong people think NATO is in this case (personally, I agree with their actions.. the "wrong" done by the current regime in Libya FAR outweighs any supposed good), it's nice to see NATO actually DOING something, other than flapping its collective jaws.

Is that so? What was the bad that the regime has done? Enlighten us please!