A response to the claims that the Tea Party is racist.

I'll keep this short, because the videos speak for themselves. Without a doubt there are some racists in the Tea Party, but guess what.... there are racists in every group, on every side of the argument and in all walks of life. If you are a racist and claim to be a member of the Tea Party then you have no idea what the Tea Party and the conservative movement truly stand for.


Left Taunts, Harasses and Hurls Racial Insults at African American Man Attending TEA Party
(hate and racism from the LEFT)

www.youtube.com...

Tea Party Racism??

www.youtube.com...

Reporters vs. Conservative Black Leaders at Press Conference 8 4 2010

www.youtube.com...

CNN Guest Compares Black Tea Party Members to "The Jew Guards at Nazi Death Camps"
(more racism and hypocrisy from the LEFT)

www.youtube.com...


Here is a link to a CBS News story about David Webb, a BLACK TEA PARTY CO-FOUNDER, talking about how the NAACP plays the race card

David Webb Vs. NAACP


That's all for now, I could go on and on for weeks and still not run out of proof that the left's claims that the tea Party is racist is nothing more than a red herring.

(P.S. for all of you pseudo-intellectual liberals out there, a red herring is a deliberate attempt to divert attention)

reply to post by OptimusSubprime
thank you its about time someone pointed it out great job just wish it was me

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The assumption that the tea party as a whole is racist is just silly.
The reality is that some of the leader are (ie rush limbeaugh).

Most of the citizens who support the tea party aren't racist but dupes. They fell for the smoke and mirrors.

Yes. Thank you. I am not in agreement with Tea Party perspectives. However I found the racial observations made by several on the left to be wrong . Cheap in fact.

By calling out the race disparity of the TP , the left shot itself in the foot by diffusing attention from the real miscalculations being taken up as true by this fledgling collection of citizen activists.

Any hope that the left might have for the activism of TP members to grow into a broader and more developed perspective on political and social issues ( and this IS how they view their perspective though this is ALSO how the right views their own perspective) can only be hindered by this tactic.

Democrats have been openly equating black Conservatives as 'oreos' for years, black on the outside and white on the inside, for years with no qualms whatsoever. Democrats believe that they are traitors 'to the cause', whatever that is, by having conservative values rather than socialistic, even though one of the biggest racists in federal government history, former KKK Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd, was a highly respected and admired Democrat.

While I applaud the thread (S+F) I find that it wouldn't have ever been necessary if the opponents ever wanted to debate the issues. Yet they realize that their issues are so void of common sense or merit, this is the only attack they could mount.

Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
Democrats have been openly equating black Conservatives as 'oreos' for years, black on the outside and white on the inside, for years with no qualms whatsoever.

Maybe this is just local or regional as I've NEVER heard this before. I'm an independent so I'm not invested in either camp. I'm not a fan of either.

I think we run into problems when blanket statements like
"Democrats have been openly equating black Conservatives as 'oreos' for years,.."
are made. It shows that the person making these statements either
1. is not thinking them through before posting.
or
2. Has a hidden agenda to pass along misinformation.

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You are absolutely correct. "Racist" has evolved into having such a broad and fluid definition, it now encompases just about every thought or action, regardless of motivation that runs counter to the objectives and mindset of the left. It even has reached the comical extreme where simply disagreeing with the President or having the opinion that he is doing a poor job is considered racist. By any reasonable definition, it is the minorites and left who are racist today, certainly not those seeking a more limited government.

The charge of racism is nothing but a childish attempt to quell discussion, by attempting to make the very discussion illegitimate due to the source of the argument having its basis in racism.

Of course it is nonsense. How about we have a candid, thoughtful discussion of the issues and ignore the idiots on every side of the fence and simply deal with the policy issues?

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Just curious Beezzer, did you happen to take the time to view the links provided in the OP?

The left liberals and Dems have always made the idea that blacks are helpless, less able, ex-slaves, and victims, so they cater and patronize to them, and "their" organizations, trying to gain their support by promising special programs and more government aid, but all that only hurts blacks, and everyone. They are the real racists, by dividing the people, wanting special treatment of certain types.

Originally posted by tom502
The left liberals and Dems have always made the idea that blacks are helpless, less able, ex-slaves, and victims, so they cater and patronize to them, and "their" organizations, trying to gain their support by promising special programs and more government aid, but all that only hurts blacks, and everyone. They are the real racists, by dividing the people, wanting special treatment of certain types.

Look, I'm not black but if you think it's the black people who have been given "special treatment," then I would be forced to ask just how you define "special treatment?"

There's an excellent documentary that was on HBO not to long ago entitled "Thurgood" which is a stand up biography of Thurgood Marshall performed by Laurence Fishburne. It's one of the best things I've ever watched on HBO. I challenge you view this biography and continue to maintain the opinion that it's the blacks who have been given "special treatment" in this country.

I don't subscribe to, or identify with, any political wing or ideology, as I believe that doing so stifles critical and creative thought.

I have no interest in defending the left/right or liberal/conservative point of view.

I take strong exception to someone pulling out the ''race card'', though, or any other card that is used. They are a sly ad hominem attack and an attempt to divert and stifle criticism and opposition.

Calling somebody racist for their political views is problematic for a number of reasons:


1. It is an unfalsifiable slur. Unfalsifiable slurs are a cowardly and dishonest means of attack.

If someone says ''Tea Party members are racists'', then anybody who is affiliated with that party can never disprove that accusation. It is impossible to prove to anyone else that your political motivation is not race based.


2. The burden of proof rests with the accuser. If someone claims that someone's political beliefs are racist, then they need to provide persuasive evidence that they are, otherwise the accusation just becomes an fallacious ad hominem.

Unless someone says something that is explicitly, overtly and unequivocally racially charged, then any insinuations that their views are built on racial biases are nothing more than a cowardly debating tactic.

For example, if someone says that ''the only time that a black man should be in the White House is if he is serving drinks'', then you can reasonably infer from that statement that the person making the comment is racist against black people.

If someone says that ''I don't believe that Barack Obama was born in the USA'', then that can not be reasonably interpreted as a racially biased statement. Only the person holding that view will know whether that race is a factor in their belief.


3. Calling somebody a racist is intended to be an insult and to put the accuser on the moral high ground. In the current social climate, being labelled a racist is marginally preferable to being labelled a child molester.

Considering the fact that there are such negative connotations to the term, then the observation or accusation is predominantly interpreted as a negative.

It cannot be reasonably argued that calling or insinuating that somebody is a racist is a neutral or impartial comment.


4. Those who pull the race card are the ones who are racially obsessed and biased.

Thanks to some of those ''oh so not racist'' supporters of Obama, I am constantly reminded that he's ''black''.

At least obnoxious groups such as the KKK don't beat around the bush with their racist attitudes. Many, obviously racist, Obama supporters obviously identify him as ''black'' first and foremost.

Can you imagine that ? People claiming to be anti-racist, defining the POTUS by his skin colour.

You really can't get more hypocritical than that.

Originally posted by Flatfish
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Just curious Beezzer, did you happen to take the time to view the links provided in the OP?

edit on 24-4-2011 by Flatfish because: (no reason given)

Actually, I'm quite familiar with them. Breitbart had the same series a while back when one of the contributing editors ran a similar article to this thread.

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Black conservative tea party backers take heat

They've been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values. Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement—and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation's first black president.

"I've been told I hate myself. I've been called an Uncle Tom. I've been told I'm a spook at the door," said Timothy F. Johnson, chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, a group of black conservatives who support free market principles and limited government.

"Black Republicans find themselves always having to prove who they are. Because the assumption is the Republican Party is for whites and the Democratic Party is for blacks," he said.

Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by OptimusSubprime

 

The assumption that the tea party as a whole is racist is just silly.
The reality is that some of the leader are (ie rush limbeaugh).

Most of the citizens who support the tea party aren't racist but dupes. They fell for the smoke and mirrors.

And the proof that Rush is a racist is where................

Powerful or influential people using falsehoods to manipulate other people's behavior is not a new phenomenon. More than a hundred years ago, "father" of modern psychology William James observed, "There's nothing so absurd that if you repeat it often enough, people will believe it." The "big lie" technique caught fire in the John Dewey, Woodrow Wilson, FDR days of the progressive era. The concept has found fertile gray matter inside the skulls of American progressives ever since.

Progressives relentlessly preach a narrative assembled from high-sounding fallacies. And the tactic works. Eyes do indeed eventually glaze over. Fiction does gain acceptance as fact. In other words, progressive falsehoods have staying power.

www.americanthinker.com...

Plus of course Alynski rule no 10 - push a negative hard enough and it will become a positive for you.

Relatively simple when you have a strangle hold on the media, academia, judiciary etc. Keep telling them big old whoppers - even though people know its not true, they eventually get accepted as the prevailing view..

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by OptimusSubprime

 

The assumption that the tea party as a whole is racist is just silly.
The reality is that some of the leader are (ie rush limbeaugh).

Most of the citizens who support the tea party aren't racist but dupes. They fell for the smoke and mirrors.

And the proof that Rush is a racist is where................

Are you kidding me ?????
If you listen to him on even a semi-regular basis, you'll hear him make racist comments.
You don't make racist comments unless you're a racist.
remember puff the magic negro?
There are many, many more examples.

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Ah, you mean the parody made about the article written be David Ehrenstein for the LA Times?
Here is the link.
www.latimes.com...

So if that is your base, I guess that any parody made about racial topics, is racist as well?
I guess that SNL is guilty also.

You got anything of true value or evidence?

I think is is safe to say that you are basing it off your feelings that Rush is a racist as I have never heard him utter anything remotely close to being racist.

Here's a video of rush making racist comments about the chinese, black people and for good measure, an insulting comment toward Michael J. Fox

www.businessinsider.com...

Here's another
gawker.com...#!5586172/rush-limbaugh-honors-george-steinbrenner-with-racist-idiocy

Here's another
www.bing.com...

how about this one
abcnews.go.com...

another one


This is just a very small sampling of rush's racist views.

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How about members of the Black Panthers, followers of Farrakhan talking about killing cracker babies. Why is that not getting front page news?