EXCLUSIVE "What in The World Are They Spraying" Chemist talks to ATS about Geoengineering.

reply to post by pianopraze

Superb
I hope Dr. Thyme can sit in too, and hopefully a full hour can be dedicated to the show, I bet it would be one of the most popular shows ever, and bring us all closer to truth, whatever it may be.
Thanks again for your tenacity pianopraze...

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Hi pianopraze. l really hope the producer will be able to come on the radio show. Welcome to you Dr Thyme, looking forward to your responses, Peace starchild.

Originally posted by defcon5

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I have a question for the good Dr.
Since we know for a fact that there is no spraying from civilian aircraft due to the number of members here who have in the past, or currently work in civilian aviation. Additionally we know that the military has to follow certain federal laws in how it conducts military operations in civilian airspace outside permanently closed areas of military operation. How many NOTAMS have been filed for military overflights to supposedly blanked Mt Shasta with this particulate?

Originally posted by Doomzilla
We need more qualified people such as Dr Thyme on ATS , lets hope its a indicator of good things to come.

Why, when we have lots of very qualified people on ATS with professional backgrounds in both aviation and meteorlogy, and chemtrail believers will not listen to what any of them say?

What you mean to say is that you “Want more qualified professionals on ATS who will agree with a theory that none of the other, even more qualified people from relevant industries, will…”

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

edit on 3/3/2011 by defcon5 because: (no reason given)

Dr. Thyme is a Chemist, the first question is outside his field of expertise, so that is a disingenuous question.

Why do we want outside experts? ... we want people who have seen these things to report what they know. I had a Top Secret SCI clearance in the army. All information is kept as Secret Compartmentalized Information. If someone above you does not think you need to know.. you don't know. So we want to hear from those who did have access. Again, a disingenuous question.

Lastly, you are putting words in his mouth, and you do NOT know what he means... you are clearly twisting. Another disingenuous argument.

Your arguments and questions are all disingenuous. I would expect more from a forum moderation.

I hear your passion and maybe there have been a million silly threads on this topic with silly arguments. But we have a chance to speak to an organic chemist specializing in oxidized metals on the findings of metal oxides in the Mt. Shasta region. This is a great way to learn, no matter which theories might be backed by the findings.


On a side not I contacted the Dr. via email and he said he would be back. I know we're all biting at the bit waiting to hear from him. He also expressed interest coming on air on ATS live. Hope you guys decide to do the show. If they both come on they might talk G. Edward Griffin to coming on also. *fingers crossed...

reply to post by defcon5

Why, when we have lots of very qualified people on ATS with professional backgrounds in both aviation and meteorlogy, and chemtrail believers will not listen to what any of them say?

What you mean to say is that you “Want more qualified professionals on ATS who will agree with a theory that none of the other, even more qualified people from relevant industries, will…”

I think what you did is take what Doomzilla said completely out of context. From what I got from his typed words was pretty much stating that it is great to get someone who made a video about this stuff to actually come ATS and talk about it. Meteorology = the Study of the atmosphere, Aviation can be anyone who is a pilot or a plane mechanic. Dr Thyme has a doctorate in inorganic chemistry from Oregon State University, what's the problem? I thought ATS was about denying ignorance but yet now we see opposition to a scientist actually coming here to speak who made a documentary about chem-trails? Coming from a mod? :shk:

Wouldn't you applaud the chance at speaking to this person instead of attacking a user that simply gave thumbs up to ATS for the chance to speak to the Doctor?

Sure, go talk to a weather reporter or a pilot, perhaps a plane mechanic, even a control tower operator to confirm your skeptical beliefs on the matter... after all is said and done, this is a conspiracy site.

Putting words in peoples mouths doesn't look good either way you look at it.

Peace.

reply to post by defcon5

What you mean to say is that you “Want more qualified professionals on ATS who will agree with a theory that none of the other, even more qualified people from relevant industries, will…”

OK Defcon..
NAME all the qualified professionals an ATS and list their qualifications..

This guy is real and his credentials are verifiable unlike your "so called" experts on ATS that we don't even know their real names, let alone their qualifications..

So how about "put up or shut up"......

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Mate, none of them have proven who they are or what they are qualified in to ME..!!
At the end of the day it's facts that matter and that is a FACT..
Many people have interest and knowledge in fields that they have NO qualifications in..
It does not automatically make them an expert..
I might add I'm appalled at the way you have posted to this "known" expert the way you have..
And to openly state it's a hoax in very ignorant IMO...

You could have entered the debate with an open mind..
That's the intelligent, mature thing to do..

Or IMO, best you merely stay out..

reply to post by backinblack

none of them have proven who they are or what they are qualified in to ME

And none have to.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by backinblack

 

none of them have proven who they are or what they are qualified in to ME

And none have to.

So what Chad, we just believe something with no proof??

Last I heard these same "so called" experts would accept NOTHING without proof..

What's good for the Goose and all that springs to mind....

reply to post by defcon5

They have satisfied it to the staff and to the board,

Staff??

As for the board, I've seen many many question them, so NO mate, the board is NOT satisfied...

reply to post by backinblack


The proof is in what they say, it can be verified.

And typically, the experts aren't the ones making outlandish claims.

And when they do, I would expect the same from them.

Fact is, the likes of Ozweatherman have proven time and time again to know what they're talking about, I have no reason to doubt them.

Having said that, I will still fact check things myself if I think somethings not right (very rare occasion).

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Yes, always check yourself..

But after seeing what some have posted in this thread I doubt this guy comes back..

Hell, I wouldn't bother if I was him and that's a loss for ATS...

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Chadwickus

 

Yes, always check yourself..

But after seeing what some have posted in this thread I doubt this guy comes back..

Hell, I wouldn't bother if I was him and that's a loss for ATS...

Ashame, because I wanted to ask him his views on the effects of geoengineering of the atmosphere by the spraying of sulphate particles (to counter perceived global warming) on the ozone layer

He is a geoengineering expert, right?

(I'm also still awaiting an answer on the evidence of increased aluminium concentrations being found in all parts of the world - that being a simple and readily falsifiable prediction of the premise that geoengineering of the atmosphere through the spraying of aluminium particles is occurring)

Dude... you guys need to chill out.

Take a breather, lets get this Dr. on the radio, give him some time to respond, etc. Stop drowning his thread in bickering.

Do you remember your first experiences with ATS? I don't know about yours, but mine was rough. That is why people lurk for so long... it is a harsh environment.

This Dr. has not done the usual lurking 'tip-toe', instead has jumped right in.

The analogy of the frog in the boiling water comes to mind... if you lurk and tip toe your way into ATS you are likely to stay.

If you jump right in the boiling water you are likely to jump right back out and forget about those crazy conspiracy nuts for the rest of your days.

We are all very aware of the conspiracy discussion, all the ins and outs and crazy claims... that is the result of our lurking and tip toeing and years of browsing ATS. This Dr. is probably not.

We want to get information as fast as we can, ask a million questions and get answers immediately right now hurry up prove it!

The boiling water is no fun for someone who has just jumped in from the cold.

So just chill out.

ETA:

reply to post by defcon5

No one has been less then cordial with him up to this point,

Defcon... I noticed a question was asked of you earlier. A very relevant question. Have you taken the time to watch the entire documentary? Since that is the primary source upon which this whole thread is based, it does seem like the most cordial thing would be to watch it in its entirety with an open mind... and yeah, you are a mod whether there is the dotted line around your post or not. Tough.

reply to post by beebs

I skimmed through it, and I've watched as much of it as I care to. I have better things to do then watch almost two hours about something that I know for a fact is science fiction.

What is you the point here about my watching it anyway?
Are you trying to deny that the topic is Chemtrails?
from the site:

By now everyone has seen crisscrossing streaks of white clouds trailing behind jet aircraft, stretching from horizon to horizon, eventually turning the sky into a murky haze. Our innate intelligence tells us these are not mere vapor trails from jet engines, but no one yet has probed the questions: who is doing this and why. With the release of this video, all of that has changed. Here is the story of a rapidly developing industry called geo-engineering, driven by scientists, corporations, and governments intent on changing global climate, controlling the weather, and altering the chemical composition of soil and water — all supposedly for the betterment of mankind. Although officials insist that these programs are only in the discussion phase, evidence is abundant that they have been underway since about 1990 — and the effect has been devastating to crops, wildlife, and human health. We are being sprayed with toxic substances without our consent and, to add insult to injury, they are lying to us about it. Do not watch this documentary if you have high blood pressure.

If your trying to tell me to be open minded because maybe I'll change my mind, then the answer is no. Not anymore then I could convince you that your given name is not really your given name. Nothing is going to change your mind about something that you know for an absolute fact.

the only thing that has changed contrail/aviation wise is the running temps of the newer engines. Again, there is nothing being sprayed. If there were, I would have been the person to oversee its loading and balance on my aircraft, and I have seen my aircraft leave persistent contrails (AKA chemtrails).