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Originally posted by backinblack
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by backinblack
The elemental form of aluminum does not exist in nature. It only exists in the form of compounds. Aluminum oxides are the most common. Aluminum oxide is what the "chemtrail" crowd claims is being sprayed.
edit on 3/2/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)
I think the whole point is that yes, aluminum does NOT exist in nature..
So how did it appear in the test results if that is what they found..
I'm more than open to you proving the results were for aluminum oxide but that's not how I'm reading the report..
Planes have to fly in air patterns.
You need HIGH clearance to fly outside of a pattern, even if it's a mile off course.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by backinblack
You think soil testing is a valid air test?
You think testing pond sludge is a valid air test?
You think testing for 2 or three substances in rain water is a valid test to show "high levels" of contamination? How can it be when other "safe" contaminants were not tested for? We have no way of knowing how much "bad" stuff there was in comparison to the harmless stuff. The water tests (all of them) are pointless. They show nothing except that there is aluminum in dust.
The only thing approaching an air test tells us there was a very small amount of aluminum in the sample taken.
Originally posted by Deja`Vu
This morning the Georgia sky was deep blue as the sun was rising, the the planes started, x's and y's all over the place dumping something for sure, within 2 hours the sky was milky white and as the continued it was so obvious. The sun was blocked out and as they continued you could see them last all day. thats not contrail's thats something new!edit on 2-3-2011 by Deja`Vu because: added something
Google Video Link |
The spreading out of jet contrails into extensive cirrus sheets is a familiar sight. Often, when persistent conditions exist from 25,000 to 40,000ft, several long contrails increase in number and gradually merge into an almost solid interlaced sheet.
Originally posted by Qcuailon
I shouldn't even have to remind you of this, but, the UN just passed resolutions prohibiting certain aerosols that are used for the purposes of Geoengineering. Big word there. "Geoengineering." Silly stuff...probably doesn't exist...right?
Aerosols...Now, where did the U.N. get that word from?
And how would the UN expect that we would deliver such aerosols in the sky?
Those silly people with all of that scientific evidence amassed from researchers who have real degrees MUST ALL BE WRONG.
So Phage...How do you suppose those aerosols got up there if not "SPRAYED" by airliners?
Do you have a well thought out, factual presentation for that question?
Not that I should have to provide ANYTHING,
but, I will...
www.nowpublic.com...
For all those who want REAL INFORMATION WITH SOURCES to research, check this wikipedia article. And some will say "Wikipedia???" Really??? Check the sources and then come back with that nonsense.
en.wikipedia.org...
Patents:
www.google.com...
Other info:
www.lexum.umontreal.ca...
www.history.com...
For countless generations, weather has influenced the planning and conduct of military and naval campaigns. In his instructions to his generals, Frederick the Great wrote, "It is always necessary to shape operation plans... on estimates of the weather."
William Cohen addresses Weather Warfare: Of course, "Phage and company" will have more reliable information than the former secretary of defense. Phage gets briefings from the White House all the time.
www.fas.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
www.govtrack.us...
I showed you mine, now, you show me yours...By the way, I HAVE TONS MORE info where that came from.
There's more recorded evidence for our argument for the existence of "Chemtrails" than against it.
It was a pleasure schooling you, and before you say a SINGLE word to me, I want you to provide me with EVIDENCE that you have a meteorology, physics and Chemistry degree. If not, then what you say is conjecture and not worth listening to.
Originally posted by Deja`Vu
This morning the Georgia sky was deep blue as the sun was rising, the the planes started, x's and y's all over the place dumping something for sure, within 2 hours the sky was milky white and as the continued it was so obvious. The sun was blocked out and as they continued you could see them last all day. thats not contrail's thats something new!edit on 2-3-2011 by Deja`Vu because: added something
The German on the ground knows us by the pearly white scarf which every plane flying at high altitude trails behind like a bridal veil. The disturbance created by our meteoric flight crystallizes the watery vapor in the atmosphere. We unwind behind us a cirrus of icicles. If the atmospheric conditions are favorable to the formation of clouds, our wake will thicken bit by bit and become an evening cloud over the countryside.
Originally posted by stars15k
reply to post by ParkerCramer
Sorry, the only time I follow Phage is if he's ahead of me in line somewhere. Or he replies to the same person before I do.
What is the acceptable level of Al? Did you research? Hmmmm....???? Here is a link:
Aluminum in the Human Body
Apparently not. We are surrounded by Al, and it's excreted in urine and feces. Make you fell better? It should.
Keep in mind the amount of Al in the samples in question did not test the exposure of any population. It tested the ground water, which is contaminated by ground level sources of all kinds. So you cannot really compare the two. It's apples and oranges.
Show the level in the populace is toxic and that the aluminum came from a jet's exhaust plume and you have a claim. Show your soil or ground has Al in it and you are......well, tilting at windmills.
Originally posted by Phage
Like you say, it is a weak argument for "chemtrails" but it is the one that seems to be most closely clung to.