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...According to officials who have seen the video...
...The tapes are in the custody of the FBI...
...won't likely be released until trial...
...video obtained from the Safeway supermarket...
Originally posted by epitaph.one
reply to post by filosophia
ive seen one of the videos, it was leaked, i could probably still find it. but its on a website 90% of you wont feel comfortable on, alot of porn, and i mean weiiiirddd porn and weirder stuff.
the video i saw was just him walking around his school talking to himself.
Originally posted by filosophia
oh please people, a nine year old girl was murdered, find me 12 people in the world who has not heard of that and who don't already think he is guilty. You people who say they can't release the video because it would be tampering with the jury, try and find 12 people who haven't heard this story. Go ahead, I'd like to see that.edit on 19-1-2011 by filosophia because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by tom502
I'm not sure of a coverup, I don't feel it. He could have been an MKultra candidate, but the vids will just show him doing what he did, and would not xpose a coverup, like the Pentagon vids would. Also, they would not want the news channels showing this candidate or nut doing such a thing.
Originally posted by EvilBat
Originally posted by filosophia
oh please people, a nine year old girl was murdered, find me 12 people in the world who has not heard of that and who don't already think he is guilty. You people who say they can't release the video because it would be tampering with the jury, try and find 12 people who haven't heard this story. Go ahead, I'd like to see that.edit on 19-1-2011 by filosophia because: (no reason given)
See right there, you would not make jury, nine year old girl murdered. What if the video shows some one bumping the girl INTO line of fire cause they were panicking? We only know what is fed to us, if you want to see the videos before trial I suggest heading over to the court house and asking to see them, or better yet see if the 3 amigos will give you an ATS press pass to watch the case and report back to us ( I would but I'm not in AZ )
I understand about not finding 12 people that don't know what happened, I can find 12 or more that only know what the news tells them, they don't have internet to read beyond the tv/newspaper. I can also find 12 or more that don't even remember the names of the victims or the shooter go figure
Last week he was called “fair” and “just.” Today, Judge John Roll, the federal judge killed in the Tucson shooting, is being called a hero.
Police say security footage from the Safeway store where the shooting occurred shows accused gunman Jared Loughner walking up to Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and shooting here at close range — the video shows only a wisp of her hair, however. Loughner then turns and begins firing indiscriminately into the crowd.
“He wheels this direction and that direction firing,” Chris Nanos, a captain with the Pima County Sheriff’s Department who has viewed the video, told the Wall Street Journal.
The Journal explains what happens next in the video with 63-year-old Judge Rolls:
As the shooting starts, the video shows Judge Roll pushing another man, Rob Barber, onto the ground, Mr. Nanos said. “It looks to us as though he is pushing against Ron Barber to move him out of the way.” Both men fall to the ground; both are shot. The judge was shot in the back and died.
The New York Times quotes Richard Kastigar, another investigator in the case, in explaining the incident this way:
The judge guides Mr. Barber to the ground, shields him with his body, and then tries to push himself and Mr. Barber away from the gunman, who was no more than three to four feet away as he fired, Mr. Kastigar said.
“He pushes Mr. Barber with his right hand and guides him with his left hand. The judge was on top of him and is covering up Mr. Barber, literally lying on top of him, and his back was exposed,” Mr. Kastigar said.
“It’s pretty evident to me that Judge Roll was a hero … if Judge Roll had not pushed Mr. Barber his wounds might have been fatal,” Nanos told the Journal . “Judge Roll‘s actions are of a man trying to save another man’s life.”
While the video shows Barber, Loughner, and Roll, the camera’s angle blocks other victims from view. However, the video does lead investigators to think that Giffords was the target because it shows a man running past a concrete pillar, and shooting Giffords at close range.
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“There’s no hesitation. Once he gets around the pillar, it’s obvious what his intent is. That’s why we believe his target was exactly who we thought it was,” Nanos told the Journal.