War of the Worlds (nibiru)

Originally posted by Khaaaaaan!!
Antoniastar -- ty for the comments. Lately I have been feeling that nothing is a coincidence anymore. The spaceship thread is interesting, and I know phage shredded it, but it was still pretty cool.

You're welcome Khan. Oh you too huh?! I've been feeling that way as well. It's got to do with synchronization and keeping pace, IMHO. We seem to live in the age of firsts. "New" developments coming from everywhere all at once, in all sorts of schools of thought and fields of learning. Also in the social scene.

My Guardian Angels guide and protect me. Thank God for that!

Phage shredded the space ship thread? I didn't see that! I went through the whole thread and all I saw was a post by Phage but there was nothing in the post. I'll have to go back and check it out.

And I luv your findings about the 50 names of Marduk in reference to "Nebiru". No coincidence there, especially since Europa comes closer to Earth. I wonder if the Annuniki are mining Jupiter's Moon? Very interesting thought. I still stand on my previous prediction, that much of the tales circulating of Annuniki and Nirbiru are exaggerated. What's that saying? There's a grain of truth in every lie? Something like that.

I'm following your thread.

Toni

I've been watching Jupiter for the last several months now, the four moons are very interesting to see. I put my lens out of focus, and was able to see behind Jupiter and its moons, it is truly a great sight to see. Millions of stars, stars I have never seen before.

I don't think its Nibiru (Or what I prefer to call, Marduk). The gravitational pull of another large celestial body could have made Jupiter come closer to Earth for us to see its great detail; but then again, it all could be a natural occurrence.

What I wouldn't do to get my hands on a Meade telescope!

To the OP: I read your post right after you wrote it and I've been meaning to tell you, it was definitely interesting. You grabbed my interest on two different fronts. I find Europa extremely interesting and if we could get a lander out there with a probe that can penetrate that icy shell and see what's really down there, people will surely be amazed. I've also read Sitchin's book, The 12th Planet and it was one of the more enjoyable reading experiences I've had. I don't necessarily agree with him, but I do think he could be on to something. It's hard to read the epic of Gilgamesh and not think of imperial walkers during his confrontation with the bull of the heavens. Oh and Innana sounds hot, by the way. Think about that for a moment; immortal war-goddess / sexy, alien chick. Oh yeah!

To the Sitchin haters: It's just a book. If books scare you then don't read it. The only 'message' I got out of it was to enjoy your limited time here on Earth. There was no foretelling of doom or David Icke style conspiracy with a promise of spiritual healing for a low easy payment plan that fits your lifestyle.

I've learned some things from my short, meaningless existence on this insignificant, mudball of a planet on the outskirts of nowhere. I don't 'believe' in anything. Sometimes there's little distinction between prophets and idiots. People who foretell doom are usually just trying to sell you something. Don't listen to me. I deny everything.

Originally posted by luxordelphi
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I'm going to have to go with Herschel on the Uranus sighting BUT very interested to know where exactly you saw this.

It's not all that hard(it can be), Uranus is nearly just above Jupiter at the moment. Just above and to the right to be exact. It should be the first point of light you see just above Jupiter. On a moonless night or in an area clear of Light pollution it shouldn't be all that hard to spot, because right now like Jupiter it is at the brightest that it is going to get. Again the quality of your eyesight will be a determing factor on whether you can see it with the naked eye or not. I also find that the seeing gets better towards the end of a session after your eyes have adapted to looking at the sky, at the start of the night I need to use my finderscope to spot Uranus but normally if the moon isn't washing it out by the end I can pick it up unaided. Even with my telescope it is little more than just a blueish/greenish circle of light, but once you know what your looking for it becomes quite easy.
But like I said once you know and when the viewing conditions are right, it took me a number of nights to find the thing in the first place and then bingo, it jumps straight out at you.

Originally posted by Lovemaster9000I've learned some things from my short, meaningless existence on this insignificant, mudball of a planet on the outskirts of nowhere.

Of course you can believe what you want, but that line compelled me to tell you that even thou you don't realize it yet, you are more special than you give yourself credit for. Everything that is ALIVE, here, on this plane of existence, has something that all the gods, divine entities, demi gods, demons, gin, angels, watchers, etc. want and crave and can never have. For they can mimic and duplicate endlessly, but they can't create...............at least not in a way that they really want to. If your not sure what I mean just hang on to it. and consider this a teaser for another subject. but not here. I wouldn't want to derail my own thread.

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VERY interesting stuff. A lot to get ones head around - I feel like a student embarking on a new course!
And I notice that you, like me, are a Sagittarius. So Jupiter's our planet. Wonder what it all could mean for us!?

Originally posted by WanderingThe3rd
Thats weird, because in halo reach beta they had Jupitor in the background of earth, and now for halo reach they have a planet in the background still but its not jupitor

and in Land of the Lost, even on the case, it has reptilians, dimensions, ufo's, dinasours, jupitor, and 3 moons

LOL you like that stuff huh? Here are my favorites, some oldie Goldie's

Star Wars (a new hope) At the end of George Lucas's movie the death star is approaching the rebel alliance base located on Yavin 4, which is a moon next to a jupiter looking gas giant.

Star Wars (return of the jedi) again George uses a gas giant as the backdrop for the final battle, and part of the battle involves ground action on one of the gas giant moons called Endor.

Arthur C Clarke wrote 2001, he later wrote a sequel called 2010 (both were made into movies) in which astronauts and cosmonauts on a joint mission explore the Jovian system, and focus on Europa to search for life. and at the end of the movie something amazing happens..............

That Europe could be Nibiru doesn't make sense to me..

Europa is a large moon completly covered with ice. Underneath that ice is a deep, dark ocean. So in that deep and dark ocean should live the annunaki ? A highly inteligent alien race ? If there is life, then I suspect only and just maybe rare sea creatures and maybe some microbes....

Originally posted by witness63

Originally posted by Anunaki10
What a great thread! Thumbs up

I once watched an interview with some Inca indians (i think) who predict that a race of a humanoid will come to Earth and make peace between humans. I don't remember the Inca indian word for that humanoid specie.
Also once watched an interview with Robert O. Dean who says that someone will come to Earth.

I will try find these interviews later.

Viracochas--the "gods" who came down from space but looked like humans. I've been down to Peru and was taken around to some of the sites by a professor who was also indigenous, and he had a number of interesting stories--like how the ancients knew how to construct buildings that could withstand earthquakes that knock down modern buildings, and how an entire valley (the Sacred Valley) is really a model of the galaxy with every village, temple and building representing something they'd seen out there. All of this knowledge existed thousands of years before the Inca, who were just the latest in a long line of civilizations.

Yes, they do believe they have been visited by extraterrestrials from ancient times to the present. All the native peoples of the Americas have stories and myths like that, which were recorded long before the modern "UFO" era.

You seem to have good knowledge on ancient subject, also seems you travel to these places. Good for soul and knowledge buddy I admire that. I find it amazing and incredible that these ancient people had the knowledge to construct such buildings that could withstand such forces as earthquakes that knock down modern buildings of today. Scientists and engineers of today are still struggling with building cunstruction ideas! What i also find very impressive is the Sacred Valley, model of the galaxy!! It really makes me wonder. I'm very interested to know more about it. It makes me hunger to travel to see such places, when i get more time in the future. I've only read little bit about ancient stuff, and only watched some few documentary about it paleoanimation.us... Check this ancient astronaut with interesting animation were Pakhal takes off with his spacecraft and fly into space

Originally posted by Anunaki10
What a great thread! Thumbs up

I once watched an interview with some Inca indians (i think) who predict that a race of a humanoid will come to Earth and make peace between humans. I don't remember the Inca indian word for that humanoid specie.
Also once watched an interview with Robert O. Dean who says that someone will come to Earth.

I will try find these interviews later.

en.wikipedia.org... www.adventurespecialists.org... www.youtube.com... 2012 prophecy, according to the Incas, the turn over to a new humanoid specie, already happening, but the date for turn over is predicted in 2012

If i don't recall wrong, it should be in the Robert Dean Project Camelot Interview were someone from outer space will come to Earth in 2012, make peace between humans, move people arround to avoid conflict between humans:

www.youtube.com...
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www.youtube.com... The coming of Nibiru

Excellent thread and idea. S&F!

I would like to take it a step further an try to tie some other 'theories' together - particularly since you mention "Marduk" in a later post on the first page.

Here is a post I made on another thread, back in March - let me know what you think:

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Has anyone made this connection, yet?

This should probably be its own thread, but funny thing is, I'm not exactly sure which forum I would put it in, because the implications are across the board: Secret Societies | Ancient Civilizations | Aliens | etc.

I've spent a lot of time on this website and other places, and the weird reality is, the more you study about conspiracy theories, the more tangents and rat-holes you are led down.

THEN... it all starts to come to together.

Let's start off with a known. A given....

The Bilderberg Group - an unofficial, annual, invitation-only conference of around 120-140 guests, most of whom are persons of great influence, wealth, and power. It is often viewed as the main Secret Society that governs all others. Its members have known affiliations with every other group (with secrets) from the Freemasons to Skull & Bones to Illuminati to the Council on Foreign Relations to the Tri-lateral Commission to the...

Bohemian Club - A collection of some of the most powerful men in the world who meet annually at Bohemain Grove, located at 20601 Bohemian Avenue, in Monte Rio, California for a three-week encampment where, among other things, they conduct a ceremony of worship to a mammoth statue of an owl, also known as...

Moloch or (Molech or Molich) - which was shortened from Bel-Moloch, or "the Bel," as in "Brotherhood of the Bell." This was a trend toward monotheism. Thus, the term Bel-Moloch referred to Moloch, to which all of the gods in the pantheon became a derivative aspect of their "great god" leader...

MARDUK – a Mesopotamian / Babylonian God - “ruler of the cosmos” - who's known relatives / associates are...

Anu, Enki, & Enlil – ALL of whom (and more) are discussed in great detail and length in Robert Morning Sky's...

Terra Papers – The supposed “lost history of mankind” (and planet Earth). Dictated/passed down to RMS by his grandfather who was one of six young Native Americans who witnessed the crash of a spaceship in 1947, shortly after the now-famous Roswell incident, and rescued a 'space being' (Bek Ti) from the wreckage, who conveyed this history to them while being nursed back to health. The story, that starts out sounding like fantasy straight from the movie, Star Wars, is replete with characters, and references (to the Annunaki, specifically, but more on that in a sec), that are well known throughout the...

Sumerian Culture – the “Sudden Civilization” that spawned around 4000BC in between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. They became the most advanced civilization on Earth, creating incredible developments in mathematics, science, astrology, architecture and agriculture and are credited with many inventions such as the early developments of the wheel, military weaponry and cuneiform, the first writing system in the world. Not only that, but they spoke often and about...

The Annunaki – the collective term for their deities meaning something to the effect of 'those of royal blood'. These Gods from the Heavens possessed incredible abilities and knowledge of human genetics. Enki created the first humans, AD.AM and EVE. Enlil created the land that was, ED.EN.

Whether or not you subscribe to Zecharia Sitchin's interpretation of ancient Sumerian 'texts' introduces an entirely new collection of beliefs that range from the amazing (yet, logical) to the bizarre, but let's ignore that for the time-being.

So... what conclusion(s) can be draw from all of this...?

Well, we've successfully made a connection between the "Elites" of the here and now to the oldest, surprisingly advanced, civilization of all time.

Why is this important?

Well, it might not be, but just for kick and giggles, stay with me for a moment.

We've all seen the movie Deep Impact, no? Well, most popular conspiracy theories (NWO, legislation recently passed all but hinting at Martial Law, FEMA camps, D.U.M.B.s, 'seed' vault(s), etc) seem to suggest that the PTB are preparing to protect themselves from a global cataclysm. Those CTs mentioned above (and more not) deal with the their attempts to not only live through, but also manage the population as the catastrophe approaches (mass hysteria, rioting, disease, etc) - specifically, allowing their own plans of salvation not to be thwarted by the 'commoners'.

Is it possible that the Sumerians were the "Elites" that survived and emerged from the last global cataclysm?

I mean, they show up out of nowhere with all the appearance of a civilization that did NOT evlove from simple origins, but that were 'ready made' and hit the ground running. Literally.

Now, the problem with being a 'saved civilzation' through an apocalypse, is that you commit yourself to a very frustrsating situation: All the know-how - no way to execute.

Think about it - they've packed away enough supplies and technology to get thru the tough times, and possibly 'begin life' all over again. they have knowledge of so many wonderful things: computers, medicine, on and on, but no way to 'mass produce' any longer. Over time, some technologies and education are lost, simply due to the massive undertaking.

Now, something fun to add on - whether or not you subscribe to the theory of the Annunaki (very real entities worshiped by the Sumerians and others) making an appearance due to their home-world of Nibiru making it's periodic, 3600-year return to our solar system, you have to recognize the very evident possibility that 1) SOMEthing has caused dramatic and violent geophysical changes on our planet, and maybe-or-maybe-not 2) some type of ET presence is already among us, or has at least visited us in the past.

Regardless, massive tectonic plate activity in the past had caused earthquakes to occur, volcanoes to erupt, landmasses to rise and fall displacing massive amounts of water quickly causing enormous tsunamis and "global flooding".

Now a step further, you've got a visiting ET lifeform that attempts to rescue us from this devistation: These 'gods' come down from the sky in the 'bellies of birds without wings' (our ancients have spoken of this), and attempt to rescue who they can from this 'hell'. [not prepared to discuss the 'selection process']

Starting to sound like anything?

Regardless, the landform has changed quickly and massively - after a few hundred years, when the dust has settled, and perhaps after many thousands, given that an ice age is likely (and historically evident - right now, as a matter of fact) the Elites from our time, emerge from their "Arc" ready to conquer the world one more time.

Maybe in a few thousand years, people will speak of Vegas the way we talk about Atlantis.


But, I'm just spitballing, here.

reply to post by Phage

At 7:00pm Pacific at 37 degrees N. lattitude and 116 degrees W. longitude the sun had just set and Venus was at 2:30pm, the moon was at 10:15am and Jupiter was at 9:30am. Venus set around 8pm. By 10pm, the moon was at 12noon and Jupiter was at 11am. Jupiter rising and Venus setting are not simultaneous here and they were both out together and highly visible for about 45 minutes.

Problems with Jupiter: it's distinctly yellow in color. When I lived in Los Angeles, the smog was very bad and as I came over the hill into what the Indians used to call 'the valley of the smoke' you could see this layer of smut sitting over everything. Even there, Jupiter was always a brilliant white.

I have a request for you: would you go out and look to see if you can, with the naked eye, see Jupiters' moons? Having alot of trouble getting beyond this and need an expert observation.

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Why do these organizations need to be secret? Why couldn't it be the North American Bar Association or something? The masons are hardly secret unless you have a uterus.

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That's a misnomer. They are not secret societies. They are societies with secrets.

Originally posted by css1981
That Europe could be Nibiru doesn't make sense to me..

Europa is a large moon completely covered with ice. Underneath that ice is a deep, dark ocean. So in that deep and dark ocean should live the annunaki ? A highly inteligent alien race ? If there is life, then I suspect only and just maybe rare sea creatures and maybe some microbes....

Yes it is very hard to even conceive really. My first problem is that it is hard to figure out the exact anatomy of an annunaki. They are depicted in different ways.They are tall, and some have wings, others look like mermaids. Why would an aquatic need to evolve wings?

So maybe they choose what they look like, genetic manipulation, and such. These guys might be a K2 civilization and if that is the case they could be just visiting and nibiru is an alien aquaform project for them.

Even the concept of intelligent, tool using ET's, from and aquatic origin, is very very challenging for me to justify.

In our own oceans we have Cetaceans (whales, dolphins etc). Marine biologist who study them say that dolphins are smarter than dogs, and that most of the larger whales have the brain capacity to potentially be smarter than humans. Ever seen a porpoise push feeder fish against a shoreline? That's talent there. A group of Humpbacks will swim in a circle deep under a school of fish to create a slight whirlpool, then blow bubbles to create a bubble net which traps the fish mainly by confusing them. That is extremely clever, but for all their smarts............they don't have hands.

We have hands, and because we have hands, and a brain, we started getting things done. Humans started making tools, with bone, wood, gut, shells. Then later stone, then better stone, At some point during all this we found FIRE. With fire we could heat treat our tools to make them stronger. Eventually tools made from metals came about, and then things really took off.

Whales don't have access to hands or fire. So unless they evolve some, the only thing left is to make things happen with their minds, telekinesis if you will. Is their naturally evolved sonar a type of telekinesis in development? Because I heard a sperm whale sonic blast can be very powerful, enough to kill I think. So maybe an alien aquatic species got so smart, they learned to control water with their minds, and then started from there.

but this is really all conjecture, I've never been to Europa, and even if I got there I still wouldn't know. I would have to wait 5 years, and then search on the web for an obscure, but legit website to find out all the cool things going on miles and miles under solid ice.

I also forgot something else (if you can believe that is possible in that entire diatribe).

In the same post, I'm pretty sure Tiamat was mentioned.

I've always thought the Asteroid Belt needed closer scrutiny: We are to believe that over billions of years, our nine planets (well, only 8 since 2006) were able to coalesce nicely into our nifty little solar system, but somehow "gravitational perturbations [from Jupiter] imbued the planetesimals with too much orbital energy for them to accrete into a planet. " (source: Wiki)

Still stranger is the fact that over 50% (FIFTY Percent) of the asteroid belt's mass (which is comprised of tens of thousand, if not millions of rocks) is contained in just 4 (FOUR) of the objects.

Yeah, right - sounds like a destroyed planet to me!

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It sounds like you are expecting that people are seeing the moons clearly, well I can't speak for anyone else but on the couple of occasions I have noticed it(and I'm not sold on the idea it was a moon but there is nothing else it could really be) it looks more like an extension of Jupiters glare than a defined moon, there is no way of telling which moon it is but one would suspect Callisto over Europa as it is norrmmaly he furthest out.

reply to post by Khaaaaaan!!

This entire thread has my attention. I have been following it from the beginning. I usually lose interest before this depth is reached. Now your teaser of another subject has again peaked my interest. I will continue with this thread, but I will be watching for your "creation" of the other. Appreciate your efforts.

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If we do that then we have an ID for nibiru.............. Europa.

Wow! Just...Wow!

You know you said the correlation of the 50 known (at the time) moons of Jupiter, hit you like a bomb..
the same thing has just happened to me.

But the connection that resonated with me just as i read that part of your thread, was this thread going on here;

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's about the 'Sealand skull' unearthed in Denmark, here's an excerpt from the website reporting on it's disclosure from the University C14 testing department;

The Sealand Skull is about one and a half times larger than a male Homo sapiens cranium. Especially the eye sockets contribute to its size. Its smooth surface reveals that the creature was adapted to cold climate, and its relative eye size that it was either a night creature, lived underground or on a planet orbiting a remote or dim star, probably an orange or red dwarf.

www.unexplained-mysteries.com...

Now, the thing that jumped out at me, was the connection you have reached regarding the Jovian system, and ancient reports of gods from the stars, who came to Earth and interacted with us, from a planet called Nibiru (Nebiru), EUROPA! And as we know, Europa is an ice covered world.

This skull is assumed to belong to a species that is adapted to extreme cold.

Loose i know, but when the bomb hits, it hits!

Great thread.

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You are really into the guts of it, keep going, but be careful what you read, and what you post.

but I warn you. You are going to reach a point where you will be afraid to post. I guarantee it.