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Originally posted by CynicalM
reply to post by RightyRight
Do you really expect to see a bill from layer X,
with details of what it was for??
I doubt it would say, " for services rendered in the matter of hiding your past history"
Originally posted by ljtg123
You are right.. It doesn't say exactly how much of the total was spent fighting these kinds of challenges in court, all I can say is what I said in the beginning.
This law firm who employed Robert Bauer, who is now serving as White House Counsel, was paid a lot of money to fight these lawsuits about the birth certificate. We know he was paid by Obama for America. It shows exactly how much Robert Bauer and the Law Firm he worked for were paid.
In addition to representing Obama in personal matters, such as the federal investigation of disgraced former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, and political matters stemming from Obama’s presidential campaign, Bauer also will play that role for Obama’s new political network, Organizing for America, and the Democratic National Committee, which is administering the network.
The added work will mean a big payday for Bauer, a leading election lawyer known for his shrewd but confrontational style, and his law firm, Perkins Coie, which already represents the Democrats’ Senate and House campaign committees.
It has reaped nearly $1.5 million in payments from Obama’s presidential campaign and an earlier political group since Bauer started representing Obama in 2005.
Originally posted by CynicalM
reply to post by Hefficide
Yes, I have my long form..
Yes, Obama could easily get his from Hawai.
The Clintons have too many of their own skeletons to risk rocking the boat..
But all that aside, Its still an easy fix for Obama...
Just show the thing and shut everyone up....
Originally posted by ljtg123
Bauer was Obama's personal attorney before he ran for president.
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
No other President has sealed his college records. I am not talking about the Birth certificate.
It’s unclear how well he did as an undergraduate, although he was not a distinguished student. Obama refuses to release his transcript from his undergraduate years. According to an article in the Wall Street Journal, Obama was not well-known among classmates after he transferred to Columbia University from Occidental College in the early 1980s. The article quotes a former roommate who states that Obama’s performance improved after he stopped taking drugs (which Obama has admitted to openly). Since Obama did not graduate with honors, that means his GPA was between a 2.0 and a 3.3 — although, since he was admitted to Harvard Law School, it’s hard to imagine his GPA was much lower than a 3.3.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by CynicalM
The state of Hawaii doesn't have an option to order a copy of the long form. This is a link to the PDF for ordering a Hawaii birth certificate.
And this is a link to Factcheck.org and their page dedicated to the Obama birth certificate issue.
From the Factcheck website:
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Originally posted by damwel
Bush's records are still sealed. All Presidents seal their records when they take office. Why? I have no idea but they have been doing it for a long time. Like someone up there said, I bet there wasn't such an outcry when Bush did it. Like a person said before, some are so upset over Obama winning that they will grab at anything to keep this alive. He's an American, He won, get over it.