North Carolina elections leaders denounced

North Carolina elections leaders denounced

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Gov. Beverly Perdue pictured

RALEIGH -- Both Democrats and Republicans raised questions
Friday about the judgment and professionalism of State Board of Elections
officials after reports about private plane flights and high prices for ballots.

Tom Fetzer, the state's Republican Party chairman, called on Gov. Bev
Perdue to demand the resignations of longtime elections Chairman Larry
Leake and director Gary Bartlett.

"Governor, this is not about partisan politics," Fetzer said. "This is about
preserving North Carolinians' confidence in free and fair elections. ... It is
apparent to me, and to many others, that the board of elections has
become a cesspool of corruption and incompetence. That cesspool
needs to be drained and cleaned, and there's only one person who
can do that, and that person is you."

www.newsobserver.com...

[edit on 7-8-2010 by boondock-saint]

while this may not be something unusual to most
folks, it is unusual this time cuz it is coming from
both sides of the aisle.

And so close to mid-term elections is
quite suspect.

I smell scandal !!!! They did everything but
call the NC Governor corrupt. This isn't over
yet or the last time you will see this in the
news.

If the Gov doesn't replace these officials
then she herself will be suspect and quite possibly
face ethics charges herself.

There's a storm brewing in NC. Stay tuned !!!


[edit on 7-8-2010 by boondock-saint]

no comments ???
really ????

since when did election fraud become
a non issue on ATS ????

Looks like ES&S has a little kickback scheme going on there as well as the usual free goodies like plane and boat rides for the right people. The good ole boy network in action.
I would hope you Tarheels get uppity about this. Good old fashioned bribery at work behind the scenes. Clean house, please!
Then you can set an example for us Sawrbacks to follow.

reply to post by boondock-saint


It's difficult to elicit much public interest in such a mundane topic. When did we discover the Diebold influence? It's old hat by now. The tiny town I reside in is completely berift of decent government (both inept and corrupt) but we have many people of faith that choose to ignore the obvious and blatant.

It seems to be representative for a growing disdain with the political process among a growing segment of the populace. I wouldn't go as far as saying that no one cares - there's just not enough "sizzle" to pique our interests.

gj

Being guilty of not reading the linked article, I assume that this is about the Board of Education in the Durham area redrawing the bussing lines in their district.

The reason is apparently that there were a lot of complaints that the kids were spending 2 hours each way a day on a bus in the most extreme circumstances. According to most reports from residents, people came in from other parts of the state that didn't know why the bus lines had to be modified to be based more on the area than the balance of race to protest for the day and then left. Apparently there aren't many actual residents there complaining.

I guess the cool new thing is for the Federal government to tell the State and local governments what to do.

I currently live in NC, and things have been shaky here for quite some time. State Troopers are getting arrested every other week, our old governor is still "under investigation", and the DMV was brought to a halt a few days ago by a employee using her DMV powers to help run a payday scheme.

My thought about this maelstrom of erratic behavior is that NC is one of many states that are almost split down the middle. We have never really been a great reservoir of people who stand up for our beliefs ( During the Civil War, we were among the first to secede, and among the first to come back into the Union. Carpetbaggers hit our state hard, and set the scene for the Jacksonville sit ins that helped to ignite the civil rights movement ) and it is starting to show in how we handle our growing, changing populace. We are slowly getting more and more outdated, and it's a shame because, believe it or not, the South has much to offer the country as far as their outlook.

Hopefully we will find our footing soon so these happenings are less and less, and we can grow like a normal state should!

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Looks like ES&S has a little kickback scheme going on there as well as the usual free goodies like plane and boat rides for the right people. The good ole boy network in action.
I would hope you Tarheels get uppity about this. Good old fashioned bribery at work behind the scenes. Clean house, please!

well it would seem that is easier said than done.
I think the good book was right .....
money is the root of all evil

if we designed a system where
money was of no significance,
we might be on to something.

If this is about money then may I suggest
that we repeal all ethics laws or any law that
regulates the income of sitting politicians. Why?
Because every time I check, not a single one of those
laws does what the title says it does. Instead it makes
the reporting of gifts and contributions a sealed matter to
be reviewed by a committee. A committee of other politicians.


David Grouchy

Repeal all ethics. Publish all income received while sitting annually.


An early move to marshal all your own party people to oversee the balloting is smart.
Particularly If one is expecting the entire next election to be settled polling station
by polling station. That is to say, a long drawn out affair with countless local
difficulties and stories. I don't believe this story is supposed to make it far
in the news, not because of the corruption, but because it is about
election officials. I would call this the opening shot of the two
thousand and twelve presidential elections. Which not
only is going to be settled in countless small places
but may very well be the most important elections

for rest of the world as well.


David Grouchy

reply to post by boondock-saint


As a fellow North Carolinian and apparently a foe of yours (which I have no idea why) I agree with your take on this. As for finding a system that does not use money I think could only work in a community based setting. Since you are from Asheville area you must know this concept well enough being how many of the groups centered around group living are located there. Of course then there would be no man or class of men able to wield influence over others except by true leadership ability, not money derived leadership.

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
Repeal all ethics. Publish all income received while sitting annually.

Grouchy
I think ur right
this is an opening salvo.
And this can always be brought up
at a later date when certain
candidates dont win
or it's contested.
cheers

[edit on 8-8-2010 by boondock-saint]

reply to post by ExPostFacto

ExPost
lol
I dont use the foe feature the way
most folks use it. I use it to alert me
to expect an opposing viewpoint.
Which in this case wasn't true.

And I'm not from Asheville
but have been there quite
a few times in my life.
Beautiful place.

I think a community based system would
work wonderful within a local area.
However, for international trade
I don't see how it could.
Maybe a mixture of the 2 ???

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Looks like ES&S has a little kickback scheme going on there as well as the usual free goodies like plane and boat rides for the right people. The good ole boy network in action.
I would hope you Tarheels get uppity about this. Good old fashioned bribery at work behind the scenes. Clean house, please!
Then you can set an example for us Sawrbacks to follow.

This has pretty much become run of the mill in NC. A couple of years back the Agriculture secretary was fired for corruption. Then at least one legislator was booted and jailed on corruption charges revolving around the education lottery. Next we found out that the former govenor had pulled strings to get his wife a job at a state college. She was getting paid way more than her position and pay grade waranted.

The list goes on and on. We have come to think of corruption as a cottage industry here.

reply to post by MikeNice81

Mike
ur right
NC as well as the USA has become nothing
but a cesspool of corruption. We are in
desperate need of a moral cleansing.
A total Revolution from top to bottom
is the only option I see to fix this BS.

America is (around the world) forcing Democracy
on other countries when in and of itself,
is not even working here except for the corrupt
evil ones in power.