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Originally posted by Alxandro
reply to post by nixie_nox
I think you are missing the biggest part of the point here.
Where were you when Bush was clearing brush at his ranch and the moonbats were throwing their hissy fits?
Sure those may have been considered typical Bush vacations but it didn't involve tax payers, passports or 40 close friends.
Why is doubling the number of vacations a Prez and his family is allowed to take okay all of sudden?
Originally posted by Alxandro
reply to post by Adevoc Satanae
Geez, looks like you are missing the main point as well, yet you still managed to somehow make the point for me. No one griped about Laura Bush because she didn't vacation with 40 pals on our dime.
It's not that people are complaining about the wookie taking a vacation, either with or without her hubbie, people are complaining because she took her pals and WE got stuck with the whopping tab.
Source then you are being rather dishonest with yourself.
Fact: The Bush's spent nearly $10 million in taxpayer money flying back and forth to their estate in Crawford, Texas, and the Bush, Sr.'s seaside compound in Kennebunkport, ME., where the Fist Family retreated for vacations. The Obama trip to Spain reportedly cost $73,000. But CBS forgot to report that contrast.
How can anyone defend that?
The ironic flip side to this story is maybe Obama vacations aren't so bad after all because the more vacations they take, the better it is for this country.
For 15 years, Laura Bush and four female friends have escaped together for a week every summer. They arrived at Mammoth Lakes on July 8, 2001 and a day later came to Tuolumne Meadows Lodge with an entourage of some 25 people, including Secret Service agents, a White House communications team, various aides and several park officials. The group took up about 15 of the 70 cabins at the site.
July 27, 2003 Laura Bush and all her friends arrived at Lake Crescent Lodge in Washington State for a week long vacation in the Olympic National Forest. "I have a group of friends that I grew up with in Midland, Texas, and we hike every summer at a national park," said Mrs. Bush. Yes, she and her friends arrived on Air Force II with lots of Secret Service Agents.
July 23, 2006 Denali National Park & Preserve in Alaska
First Lady Laura Bush arrived in the park by train on July 23rd for a one-week vacation at a private inholder lodge in the Kantishna area. Members of the park staff assisted Secret Service and White House personnel with communications, security and logistics. A small number of rangers from other parks in the region were detailed to Denali to maintain normal operations so that a portion of the parks law enforcement staff could be assigned full-time to augment and assist the Secret Service details. During the week. Mrs. Bush and a small group of friends enjoyed daily hiking excursions throughout the park. On Friday, July 28th, she and her companions traveled to park headquarters to tour the Murie Science and Learning Center, a collaborative venture by Denali, seven other national parks, and several park partners. She later attended a luncheon hosted at the center and greeted park staff and the regional director. [Submitted by Richard Moore, North District Ranger]
This is the second time in the last couple-three months that LaWa has taken advantage of a western national park for a little "getaway with close friends" whose number, names, relationships, and particularly gender is somehow never mentioned.
In June 2008, First Lady Laura Bush visited Mount Desert Island, Maine with a small group of friends for a brief vacation. She did not plan any public appearances before she arrived, but she was out in the public eye during her visit and met with Acadia National Park superintendent Sheridan Steele.
Laura Bush and her daughters, Barbara and Jenna, traveled to Africa in 2007, where they went on safari. Yet her trip was regarded as an "official" visit and included several public events.
What part of her paying for it with her own money do you not get?
The Bush's spent nearly $10 million in taxpayer money flying back and forth to their estate in Crawford, Texas, and the Bush, Sr.'s seaside compound in Kennebunkport, ME
Michelle Obama today faced a fresh wave of attacks over her lavish break in Spain with 40 friends, which could easily cost U.S. taxpayers a staggering £50,000 a day
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And her critics will be further annoyed when they learn that the president's wife had a Spanish beach closed off today so that she, her daughter and their entourage could go for a swim.
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It is unclear whether the police presence was paid for by Spain - or whether a nasty invoice could be landing in the lap of the American taxpayer.
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Whether or not the taxpaying American will be paying for meals, they will definitely be footing the bill for the First Lady's 68-strong security detail, her personal staff - and the use of presidential jet Air Force Two.
The per diems for the secret service team runs at around £172 each, which amounts to nearly £60,000 for the length of the summer break.
Use of Air Force Two, the Air Force version of a 757, comes in at £91,900 for the round trip. This does not include time on the ground.
she can do whatever she wants with her money. Free market, capitalism and all that
Mammoth Lakes in (California)
Lake Crescent Lodge in (Washington)
Olympic National Forest (Washington)
Denali National Park & Preserve (Alaska)
Mount Desert Island (Maine)
Acadia National Park (Maine)
traveled to Africa in 2007
Originally posted by Alxandro
Looks like you honestly believe she actually forked out her own cash to pay for this trip. HAH!
Maybe she paid for the shuttle ride to the airport but come on man, don't be so naive.
You know damn well the taxpayers paid for most to 90+ of that "vacation".
Let's see, $10 million divided by 8 years amounts to $1.25 million per year.
We all know the Obamas can match that in just 6 to 9 months.
I'm sure the amount will grow with each passing year as they continue to learn how to efficiently milk the taxpayers.
btw, help me out here.
Crawford Texas & Kennebunkport Maine are in which country again??
You quoted a source known as "Media Matters"?
...nuff said 'bout that!
Why not go with a source that's a little more neutral:
Michelle Obama today faced a fresh wave of attacks over her lavish break in Spain with 40 friends, which could easily cost U.S. taxpayers a staggering £50,000 a day
...
And her critics will be further annoyed when they learn that the president's wife had a Spanish beach closed off today so that she, her daughter and their entourage could go for a swim.
...
It is unclear whether the police presence was paid for by Spain - or whether a nasty invoice could be landing in the lap of the American taxpayer.
...
Whether or not the taxpaying American will be paying for meals, they will definitely be footing the bill for the First Lady's 68-strong security detail, her personal staff - and the use of presidential jet Air Force Two.
The per diems for the secret service team runs at around £172 each, which amounts to nearly £60,000 for the length of the summer break.
Use of Air Force Two, the Air Force version of a 757, comes in at £91,900 for the round trip. This does not include time on the ground.
Neutral Source: dailyMail.C O.UK
At least we can agree she is a capitalist wookie pig, but it wasn't all her money.
Regarding Laura's vacations:
Mammoth Lakes in (California)
Lake Crescent Lodge in (Washington)
Olympic National Forest (Washington)
Denali National Park & Preserve (Alaska)
Mount Desert Island (Maine)
Acadia National Park (Maine)
traveled to Africa in 2007
Nice try, I see only one international trip.
Mrs. Obama met two friends in Spain, who flew there on their own. The three women were joined by a total of four daughters. (Some news outlets reported Mrs. Obama was on vacation with 40 friends; that was not true.)
One of the women is a longtime Obama friend, Anita Blanchard, an obstetrician who delivered Sasha and big sister Malia, 12. Her husband is Marty Nesbitt, a close Obama friend and treasurer of Obama's presidential campaign fund.
A White House source told me the Mrs. Obama was not able to attend the funeral for Blanchard's father at the beginning of July. Blanchard, who was taking her daughter on a promised trip to Spain, asked the first lady and Sasha to come to Spain with her. (Malia is at overnight camp.) "She felt it was important as a dear friend to do this," I was told.
Originally posted by Alxandro
reply to post by pr3l33t
Pssst!
That called damage control.
Also, can you please point out what you might consider "classy"?
Originally posted by Adevoc Satanae
Holy Crap!
Look at the size of the entourage!
Originally posted by Alxandro
Yep, that's why they call her The First Butt
Originally posted by Alxandro
reply to post by Adevoc Satanae
That's actually an older picture,
...from about 20 vacations ago.
Not the same daughter that went to España.
Originally posted by Alxandro
reply to post by pr3l33t
Pssst!
That called damage control.
Also, can you please point out what you might consider "classy"?
Originally posted by mishigas
And incredibly, the Obamas are planning two more vacations in the next month.:shk:
Originally posted by Adevoc Satanae
Not sure I care anymore.
Originally posted by maxzen2004
Why can't they take a vacation? They have money, I think it's a non issue.
I realize many of us would love to take a nice vacation, do any of you have any ideas to fix the economy instead of bitching ?