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Anyone here try Homeopathy? Works? Doesn't?

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posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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I'm not sure how to make it any clearer. Countries where naturopathic and homeopathic medicine are more common have higher cancer rates. If these medicines were better and safer, as you claim, this wouldn't occur.


Wow now there is a huge leap of balderdash. First you cite no evidence to even make the connection that cancer rates are higher due to naturopathy and homeopathy and not a zillion other factors, and there are far to many variables to make such a huge jump to a conclusion!



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 03:30 PM
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And what Vnezony fails to realize is that naturopathic and homeopathic medicines are most common in the US and western european countries. Most other countries use some western medicine, but a lot of third world do rely on traditional tribal medicine. What a lot of people fail to realize is that homeopathic medicine was invented by Dr. Hannemann, a german i believe, has extensive research behind it, and is not used in africa, S. america, or asia. A lot of people also dont realize what naturopathic medicine is, they just lump all natural or herbal, or traditional medicine together and call it "naturopathic" and think you can learn it from a magazine or online. Naturopathic medicine is a system of balancing the body and providing all the nutrients it is SUPPOSED to have so it can heal itself, and often this is SUPPORTED by herbs, vitamins, pharma, whathaveyou. But it is an extensive and rigorous education that is backed by science, and is much more "evidence based" medicine than much of what the pharma companies put out. Further, the naturopathic community has never been found complicit in hiding the dangers of their meds from public scrutiny in order to garner more profits, which big pharma is regularly found guilty of.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by pexx421
But it is an extensive and rigorous education that is backed by science, and is much more "evidence based" medicine t


Sources and studies, please.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 06:03 PM
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I wasnt a student there, and it wasnt the focus of my research. Are you a doctor? Did you have sources and studies from the school you went to? Check out SCNM, Bastyr, or NCNM on your own if you are interested. These schools ARE med schools, run the same way, and teaching many of the same things. Many MD's go there as well. You want studies and sources on what? a school? Pick a subject, I can ask my ex, and she can provide sources, as all their treatments are well researched and documented. Its not like latrile, or other snake oil, its all extremely well researched. Of course, much of it isnt approved by the FDA because, according to the FDA "only a drug can cure a disease", and it takes millions of dollars to push something through the FDA and no ones going to do that for natural substances because you cant patent them, and no one has that much money to throw away pro-bono.

The system has been set up this way so that big pharma and western medicine has no competition from natural alternatives. Its intentional and systematic, but thats a different story.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 06:35 PM
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Thanks for this post OP... I like what you have written Pex. I have recently started a fully accredited course in Naturopathy. I chose this as I am interested in non pharmaceutical treatments that go to the root cause of the problem not just mask the symptoms. I like the idea of food as medicine.

My course covers herbal medicine (eastern and western) and homeopathy, to a point then you choose what you want to specialise in. But these subjects are not covered in depth until second and third year.

To begin with I get to study anatomy/physiology, chemistry and biochemistry. The emphasis is knowing about the body and its systems and how they work. I am very much interested in the herbal medicine part of the course as I have experienced some benefits from plant based substances.
In regards to the homeopathic medicine, I don't really get it. Possibly as I have not done much study on it or had my own experiences. I will keep an open mind, but the science student/skeptic in me is finding a lot of the claims really hard to believe.




posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 06:53 PM
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I will tell you nonelikeithot, that my girlfriend was very skeptical about the homeopathy originally as well because it is somewhat counterintuitive. However, once she got into her second and third year and really got into the history and research behind it, it became one of her greatest focuses, especially after she saw the efficacy it had for the patients she treated in clinic.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 07:14 PM
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I could care less about over the counter homeopathic products, but there are some great products you can still order. The best stuff you're going to get is always from some kind of Naturopath (considering they are able to obtain it). There are a lot of differences in potency between over the counter products and others which you can only obtain through some practitioner. I highly recommend everyone to look into Spagyric medicine. I've suffered from *symptoms* of Candida, Parasites, Leaky Gut, Fatty Liver, IBS, Diabetes, Lyme, EBV, Chronic Adrenal Fatigue and more. As of right now, I don't know exactly which of these I have had and didn't have, besides Leaky Gut for sure, but my body just had all the symptoms of these conditions. Basically, my body had become a big wreck. My body wasn't functioning properly anymore, most likely due to antibiotic use, stress, and a really bad diet during my childhood. There were rarely any white blood cells in my blood.

I finally found an amazing practitioner/naturopath/alternative medicine specialist. Through 2 years of research about health, I knew this person was experienced, yet I had never heard of Spagyrics. Here I am two weeks after starting the Spagyric medicines and I am feeling better than I have in years, and this is just the beginning process. I know I am still just in the process of using Spagyrics to get my health back, but I highly recommend you do some research on it. It looks like you can order it yourself through Pekana. I've tried so many things to get heal my body and this is actually doing something for once. Good health to all.


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posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 07:37 PM
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This is why I am keeping an open mind about it. At first I had trouble understanding how 1 ppm solutions could really do anything good or bad....Then I started keeping fish and you really start to learn quickly how minute ppms can affect organisms


Water memory is the part I am having trouble understanding at this point.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 08:04 PM
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Well, if it helps at all, a study by scientists (not medical in nature) did find that all things have electromagnetic signatures, and for some reason they found that water records those electromagnetic signatures. They found that when they introduce the electromagnetic signature for tylenol into water, and then their test subjects ingested the water, their body reacted as if it had ingested tylenol. I had read it some time ago, not sure i can find the source, but i'll post it if i can.



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