Dirty Harry. (Harry Potter subliminal SEX messages)

Originally posted by LadySkadi

Originally posted by Silver Star
reply to post by icepack

 

I'm desperately trying to see the dolphins.

Me too! Lol.
Alas, I cannot.

Here they are.

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For the record...I saw both images.

Do I need professional help?



- Lee

reply to post by Aggie Man


I'm not sure, maybe I can run it by the staff.

On the serious side, I do think some of those may have been a reach, but the word "sex" definitely stood out more in the smoky, whispy graphics once they were pointed out.

reply to post by lee anoma


You saw five more dolphins than I did.

Peace



[edit on 27-7-2010 by Dr Love]

No points necessary....just a little fun

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I am actually laughing my ass off! Brilliant!

reply to post by Aggie Man


Nothing to see here...

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reply to post by lee anoma

For the record...I saw both images.

i guess, it depends what you saw first.

reply to post by lee anoma


I'm really not seeing dolphins. I can live with that though...

reply to post by icepack


A bottle.



- Lee

Subliminal messages only work IF you notice them.

As someone already said, this is absolutely not true. I actually just watched a show on discovery or national geographic or something that had a guy that was going around doing "mind tricks." They showed how he did some of them and this one I believe is a perfect example

He would go up to someone with a newspaper, he had a big piece of paper that he would write something on with his back turned so the person wouldn't see. He had them look down their right shoulder while holding their finger up with their left eye closed. Then he told them to pick out a word from an article in the newspaper they were holding. After they picked the word, he told them he had them pick that word. Sure enough, he had that word written on his paper.

How he did it was when he had them looking to their right at their finger, he would put the paper with the word/words on it on their left shoulder where they could not consciously see it. Without knowing it they were seeing it in their peripheral and picking up on the word and so that was the word they would pick out.

It was a pretty interesting show, I wish I could remember the name of it or the name of the guy.


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[edit on 27-7-2010 by Pimpish]

I know some people are claiming this is a hoax but I went and checked some of these posters myself and saw the same thing.

As a designer I know for a fact that artists hide things like this ALL the time in their work. Mostly as a joke and sometimes in the case of Disney, as a game to see if they will be found by the editors.

I mean..there is a naked woman standing at a window in the original "The Rescuers" Disney animation.

It flies by so fast most don't see it but it was acknowledged as being in there and later removed from the DVD copies.

It does happen so it may be less "hoax" and more "randy designers".

Originally posted by RMFX1
reply to post by lee anoma

 

I'm really not seeing dolphins. I can live with that though...

Just check the negative space in the image.
That is the easiest way to see them.

I counted seven and some fish.

- Lee

A lot of those were pretty lame. The "S""E" and "X" are all misshapen and stretched out and I don't see anything but smoke, someone highlighting the word "sex" in the smoke, and then back to smoke again. Unless I see a castle turret that looks like a penis, i would say whoever made this just wants to see the word "sex" in the posters.

reply to post by Dr Love


Someone needs to get some ....and fast LOL.

Sex sells and corporations bank on it. I saw this ad a while back and thought I would share. This is a blatant example of intentionally placing product to sell sex.

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This is a phenomenon known as Pareidolia

Pareidolia

Its commonly associated with people seeing things like images of jesus on pieces of toast or in fruits, and seeing shapes in clouds and other objects.

Its also what the Rorschach Ink Blot Test is about.

Peoples minds commonly tend look for familiar patterns in everyday objects. In this case the guy who analysed the film posters probably needs to get out a bit more - that or he has the hots for Emma Watson....

Originally posted by Xiamara
** Facepalm **

I think every movie poster does... Subliminal messages only work IF you notice them. As such not everybody does pick up on them as a studying psychologist a lot of this subliminal stuff is BS... It's only subliminal if you make it so...

You've got that the wrong way round. Subliminal messaging only work if you don't notice them, that's why subliminal advertising works so well. And those who advertise know this. There's loads of it that we never notice, but subconsciously pick up on. It's one of the main reasons I gave up watching TV and films. (as much as I used to) I don't like the thought of being manipulated.

Originally posted by State of Mind
Unless I see a castle turret that looks like a penis, i would say whoever made this just wants to see the word "sex" in the posters.

Then you'll be wanting to look at the little mermaid poster.





[edit on 28/7/2010 by Acidtastic]

Let's pretend that the graphic designers deliberately put in the word sex. Not only on the posters but all throughout the movie... What would they achieve?

A sexually charged audience?

Or do they only put it on the posters to plant the idea that there are going to be sex in the movie, i.e. "sex sells". The problem I see with this approach is that teenagers' heads are already filled with the idea of sex. The movie(s) was originally targeted at teenagers. And what age group thinks about sex 24/7? Hmmm.

Trying to add to the constant raging hormones with subliminal images of the word is like trying to add water to the ocean with a bucket of water. It will make no difference.

Harry Potter is (or at least was) one of the highest grossing films. Are they really that desperate to get the last 1,000 people into the cinemas that wasn’t going to see Harry Potter, to begin with?

Your next thought will obviously be “It’s so popular because the subliminal messaging is so successful…” The problem is that the movies are so popular because the books were so popular. Harry Potter was BIG looong before they realised that they can make money out of making movies as well. So, show me subliminal messages in the original book, and I may be a bit more convinced of harmful intent.

But that's just my opinion.

Aaaah yes the ole 'phallus on the castle' one.. How could I have forgotten..

Not to mention Tyler Durden's splicings in Fight Club.

It does beg the question though, what effect, if any, does it realistically have upon a developing mind?
I use the word 'developing' in the context of the bottle dolphins/couple picture.
It obviously demonstrated that those with a sexually developed mind could see the couple, but does it mean then that children who see (but don't fully see) the picture will develop into more sexually charged people? Probably not, so by the same token, does it apply to advertising?

This is a fascinating topic!

Originally posted by neformore
This is a phenomenon known as Pareidolia

Pareidolia

Its commonly associated with people seeing things like images of jesus on pieces of toast or in fruits, and seeing shapes in clouds and other objects.

Pareidolia is very common I agree.

While I don't deny that such associations can be projected onto something completely innocuous, the fact is that many advertisers (and filmmakers) have acknowledged using subliminal tactics in their campaigns so it isn't always a case of paredolia and can come down to simple marketing tools.

In 1973, commercials in the United States and Canada for the game Hūsker Dū? flashed the message "Get it".[26] During the same year, Wilson Bryan Key's book Subliminal Seduction claimed that subliminal techniques were widely used in advertising.

In 1978, Wichita, Kansas TV station KAKE-TV received special permission from the police to place a subliminal message in a report on the BTK Killer (Bind, Torture, Kill) in an effort to get him to turn himself in. The subliminal message included the text "Now call the chief", as well as a pair of glasses.

During the 2000 U.S. presidential campaign, a television ad campaigning for Republican candidate George W. Bush showed words (and parts thereof) scaling from the foreground to the background on a television screen. When the word BUREAUCRATS flashed on the screen, one frame showed only the last part, RATS.[37][38] The FCC looked into the matter,[39] but no penalties were ever assessed in the case.

A McDonald's logo appeared for one frame during the Food Network's Iron Chef America series on 2007-01-27, leading to claims that this was an instance of subliminal advertising. The Food Network replied that it was simply a glitch.[40]

On November 7, 2007, Network Ten Australia's broadcast of the ARIA Awards was called out for using subliminal advertising in an exposé by the Media Watch program on the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation).

In February 2007, it was discovered that 87 Konami slot machines in Ontario (OLG) casinos displayed a brief winning hand image before the game would begin. Government officials worried that the image subliminally persuaded gamblers to continue gambling; the company claimed that the image was a coding error. The machines were removed pending a fix by Konami.

Subliminal Messages-wiki

You have to acknowledge the real life use of subliminal messages in the world of advertising. Having spent 10+ years in that world I can say that the elements of the designs are always placed with an intended purpose. Even the abstractly hidden ones or distorted wordings. I will admit to even doing this myself in the past.

There was a play that was being hosted at a theater and I was charged with designing a poster for it. I illustrated and positioned it in such a fashion as to have it subtly appear as if the main character, a minstrel I had drawn playing a lute, was symbolically pleasuring himself.

While I wasn't authorized officially to do this, the poster went over extremely well (even signed and framed a few copies for clients) and no one other than those I pointed it out to even recognized what I had done.

As I said with the discovered hidden sexual Disney imagery, most of the designers seem to be playing around. Disney has removed sexual elements found in their products in the past.

It's usually nothing overtly conspiratorial or even outlandish and is actually very commonplace on a number of levels.

Originally posted by Gemwolf
Let's pretend that the graphic designers deliberately put in the word sex. Not only on the posters but all throughout the movie... What would they achieve?

A sexually charged audience?

No, I believe it quite possibly has more to do with your associated mental reaction to the subliminal message in the advertisements.

As far as subliminal messages go, the intent is to have the viewer receive a certain pleasurable reaction when viewing the advertisements that will inevitably lead them to pursue the information itself with more than a casual effort. Sex of course sells and the idea of even a forbidden pleasure on a lower subconscious level being associated with a particular product can lead to heightened consumer interest.

It isn't so much as the "sex" as it is about our thoughts on its pleasurable association. So you will have an audience looking for pleasurable stimuli, not necessarily a sex scene, in any Harry Potter movies.

It's probably more of a subtle nudge, authorized or not, and added as a possible extra boost to the public reaction of the ad campaign.

- Lee

Before I even scroll lower than the reply button and read this...

I must say I have a feeling it's going to be hilarious.
I'll get back to you.

Yep, I was right


[edit on 7/28/2010 by Alexander the Great]