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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Turkey = Arab
Israel = Israel
any questions?
Originally posted by cassandranova
America will support Israel if it comes to that, but it won't.
For Turkey to defeat Israel, it would have to basically annex Syria and Lebanon in the process, and given the instability in Egypt, you could see the beginnings of a new Ottoman regime. I imagine that state would be much more loose knit, more akin the EU, but it would wreak havoc with the plans of US foreign policy over the last decade in securing reliable access to gas, oil, and mineral deposits.
Turkey is posturing to be so pro-Palestine to get support in the Arab world because as several posters rightly said, they're Muslim but not Arab. But I don't think Turkey is going to overplay their hand here, and I don't doubt at all that the US has a hand in most of this.
Israel and Turkey are not going to war. But don't be surprised if both of them end up at war with Syria. If at the end of the day, Syria goes to Turkey, Lebanon to Israel, and the US gets a war with Iran, then everyone gets something and is a little happier.
Also, unless Israel attacked Turkey and it was recognized as such, Article V can't be invoked. Israel would argue attacking such a ship was defense of its sovereign waters, the US would accept that, and NATO would continue on. There are many times the members of NATO get into wars without each other. And I can't fathom a circumstance where Israel would attack Turkey in Turkish space, which is what it would take to get the US to even consider abandoning Israel
edit on 17-10-2011 by cassandranova because: addition