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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
highly emotional
How does this legislation change that unfortunate infants situation in any way?
It appears as if absolutely no health care was denied this child,
While the insurance industry, particularly the health insurance industry, may need to be reformed, so does the health care industry which is an entirely different industry, and all hopes of some how fixing the clear problems that exist in the health care industry today,
to drag this child out as some sort of spokes model
In the matter of health care, this little baby was born with a congenital heart disease and had surgery to correct the problem and is good condition today.
Under particular attack will be the mandate provisions that require citizens to purchase health insurance and requiring businesses with more than 50 employees to provide health insurance to employees. In pursuit of seeking to have courts declare the new law unconstitutional one of the underpinnings will be the Tenth Amendment of the United States Constitution.
. . . Those seeking to nullify the law will no doubt argue that HCR is unique in American history. HCR purports to federally require all citizens to purchase a product or service from private companies. Those defending the law will point to state insurance requirements on motor vehicles. The response to that will be that vehicle insurance laws are state laws, not federal, and that ownership and operation of a vehicle remains an individual choice.
Originally posted by David9176
Jam...you have integrity...and you care. I have the utmost respect for you because of this. You are not one who falls to the endless rhetoric. It speaks volumes of who you are...even though we'll never agree on some things.
Originally posted by AshleyD
However, the concern in many people's minds is not that we don't need reform- it's that this specific bill doesn't really address the problem in a fair manner.
Originally posted by AshleyD
But not this stuff where a great portion of the population will be in 'that zone' of having their taxes increased but not receiving the benefits. Depending on your location, $80,000's, especially for a 2 income family, is not that uncommon.
-- I make $300,000 a year and have a very generous employer-paid health plan. How much more will I have to pay? You do face higher taxes. A higher Medicare payroll tax of 2.35 percent will begin in 2013 on earnings of more than $200,000 a year for individuals and more than $250,000 for couples, up from 1.45 percent. You'll also face an additional 3.8 percent tax on unearned income such as dividends and interest over the threshold.
Starting this year:
You can get a 35% tax credit if you have 10 or fewer employees, and they earn less than $25,000 on average.
You qualify for a smaller tax credit if you have 25 or fewer employees with an average wage $50,000 or less.
You don’t get a tax credit if you have more than 25 employees. Also, any employee who earns more than $80,000/year will be excluded from your credit.
Originally posted by AshleyD
So great, in my bracket (not 80K), my taxes went up, I receive no credit, and I'm forced to buy something from a private company. It's not right.
This one perk about pre-existing conditions is flaunted about which is why I have my avatar set to what it is- to show there is a lot more in this bill than the talking points we keep hearing about repeatedly.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
free markets provide better, cheaper, and more accesable care to a wider portion of the population than socialist nonsense.
"Free" care is impossible.
Costs must be contained by price controls in a socialist system.
Price controls DEMAND RATIONING.
You can not have price controlled medical care without rationing. It is an economic impossibility.
Never in the known history of man has something been placed under price controls AND been unlimited in its accessibility besides infinitely reproducible goods such as electronic media.
[edit on 27-3-2010 by mnemeth1]
Originally posted by mnemeth1
free markets provide better, cheaper, and more accesable care to a wider portion of the population
"Free" care is impossible.
Costs must be contained by price controls in a socialist system.
Price controls DEMAND RATIONING.
But instead of having doctors working to remove her brain tumors on the day the surgery was scheduled, she sat in a San Francisco hotel room. Why? Because at the last minute, her insurance company, Blue Shield, decided it wasn’t going to pay for the treatment her doctors at UCSF Medical Center had recommended.
Originally posted by Professor Tomorrow
Sad videos about babies are sad.
Okay, good, now that we have that out of the way, could we talk about the actual contents of the law at hand? Because this the actual bill, the most important question, is invariably pushed aside so we can deal with more poignant issues like which tragedy-of-the-week is having their dignity stripped for the sake of political expediency.
I care for my health every day. I eat right, exercise, and don't take unnecessary risks.