Hugo Chavez demands Queen returns Falkland Islands to Argentina

I believe that the Falklands had SELF-DETERMINED to remain a part of Great Britain. Just as I believe that Taiwan wishes to remain independent from China. It should be up to the indigenous people to self-determine who they desire to allied with. To me, this just reeks of Argentinas desire to get its hands on that oil! Than again, I could be completey wrong...

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Also, the UK cannot afford another war. It is on the verge of bankruptcy.

Not a problem. There are plenty of Commonwealth nations that ALWAYS come to the aid of the mother country.

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actually it`s the colony telling the colonizer to back off... kinda reminds of... nothing. different times. to quote 1776 would be stupid.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
This is gonna look like an anti-UK rant but eh.

Yes it does.

Chavez is right. Empires are over.

We don't have an empire - it's over. We gave it back...

The UK should stay on it's freaking island and shut the hell up, you screwed the world enough.

Go and learn a different language then. Don't make yourself look more foolish by criticising us in OUR language.

Continue being slaves, while drinking beer all day long and getting your panties in a bunch over a freaking sport match while your country crumbles under the tyranny, you seem to like it.

The only one getting their panties in a twist is you mate. I don't like football although i DO like beer, but it's not just OUR country that's in a pickle is it?

It seems like all the good people of england have left this hellhole and I don't blame you for it, I would have done the same.

Blah blah..

reply to post by maoklein


So four countries pledge support, but Uruguay sent business leaders to discuss a deal with the Falklands? Read the Telegraph link in the OP

Nothing will come about of it.

Originally posted by Yissachar1

reply to post by Badgered1

 

Don't need any big friends with that buffoon... Just send Zack Dingle off Emmerdale..Job done!


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Buffoon?

Have you actually listened to what he says, without the bias from Western Media?
He is eloquent and literate and is throwing off the shackles of oppression.

I would contest that the queen (intentional lower caps) is more of a buffoon than Hugo Chavez.

Damn the trigger happy fanbois. So quick to wish for death and violence.
Damn the British Empire.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Also, the UK cannot afford another war. It is on the verge of bankruptcy. The british people should go to war with their own government instead of going to war with Argentinians, which by the way, were destroyed economically by the big banks, most of them originating in the UK.

Actually, no we're not and we could easily (and I mean easily) fight a war down that way and kick Argentina's arse.

Any claim the UK is bankrupt is beyond a joke. If we were anywhere close to being bankrupt, we wouldn't still have a AAA rating and be able to borrow.

Besides, like Intrepid said, we have friends too, both in the commonwealth and beyond.

All of South America would have a hard time taking the Falklands, even if it was the UK alone.

We'd cut from Afghanistan, mobilise the Fleet and the job is 75% done. With the RN prowling, any invasion of the Islands is impossible and the entire combined fleets of South America couldn't shove the RN out the way. Then you have the RAF flying CAP and the job is done.

We wouldn't even have to spend that much more than we spend anyway, whereas any belligerent would have to pay a heavy price.

Originally posted by maoklein
reply to post by stumason

 

actually it`s the colony telling the colonizer to back off... kinda reminds of... nothing. different times. to quote 1776 would be stupid.

Actually no it's not.

We never colonised Argentina, they were Spanish.

Now the Spanish colonists are turning round to the British colonists and saying

"Evil colonists! Stop colonising!". Hypocrasy at it's finest.

Don't cry for me Argentina, the truth is, we never left you.... British Vulcan Bomber Photo





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Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Vitchilo

 

Aren't you always ranting against the UK though?

The rest of you post is just garbage, to be honest.

That one earns you a star

Originally posted by stumasonYou say the "english" (I hate in when only the english get the blame, their are other nations in the UK too) people should stay home on our crappy island, then what say you about the Spanish people who live in Argentina who, ironically, are claiming the British people on the Falkland Islands are colonisers and they want their island back?

Talk about hypocritical. Colonisers telling colonisers to stop being colonisers! Sod off, Argentina.

The people of the Falklands want to stay British. End of discussion.

and the rest of it earns you a drink if our paths ever cross ... Shame normal members can't give applause points, you most definitely deserve some.

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i know, but uruguay isn`t the most influencial state down there. they`re only seizing the opportunity to strike a good deal. while chavez is seizing the opportunity to: be himself (and make a statement while he`s at it). what worries me is chile and brazil stance. probably just talk, but as brazil is concerned this kind of pronunciation shocked me since this country has always tried to remain neutral in almost every single conflict

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Hehe, I will hold you to that next time I'm in Nodnol chap

I'm 100% behind the Islanders. They want to be british, so they are. The day they turn around and say "We want to be Argentine/independant" then so be it, let them go. Couldn't care less about the oil as we have to pay for it one way or the other anyway, so who gives a monkeys who sold it to me?

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we`re talking politics, it`s obvious that it would be "Hypocrasy at it's finest" =p
what saddens me the most is the excuse for it all (same old one: oil)

edit to add: oil and not any regard for cultural heritage (not that it exists), historical revisionism (the winner shall rewrite it), or even the geographical proximity (coud make a sort of more logical argumentation -- just for the public opinion to ruminate). it` about oil and no one is even trying to conceal it.

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Argentina to claim ownership of Antartica.

Only joking.

Just extending the so called logic of some.

I don't think the Falklands will ever be getting handed over to Argentina as long as there are comments like those made by Chavez.

I think we can all be assured that if a conflict ever did happen again, Venezuela would be pounded by the USA if they intervened.

reply to post by Cosmic4life


Got it, and good to see someone else trying to lighten up the conversation, a tad. However, if they took Antartica, we would just melt it..... Oh wait, that's supposedly happening already....but, that's another thread

I see Chavez is starting to spread his love around.

Usually, it is all directed at the USA.

I notice some are saying that Britain can't afford to go to war. I imagine Argentina can't afford it either.

IMO, they have the most to lose.

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Dagar

 

Hehe, I will hold you to that next time I'm in Nodnol chap

I'm 100% behind the Islanders. They want to be british, so they are. The day they turn around and say "We want to be Argentine/independant" then so be it, let them go. Couldn't care less about the oil as we have to pay for it one way or the other anyway, so who gives a monkeys who sold it to me?

Precisely how I feel.

I was born in Gibraltar where there is a similar argument over sovereignty (this time with Spain). Inhabitants want to remain British, Spain wants it back.

I can therefore more than sympathize with the Islanders and their desire to remain British and to be left alone.

I think British people are only too aware that the days of Empire are long gone... What few remnants remain are those few tiny portions that desire nothing more than to remain British,

I wish people would just respect that and leave well alone!

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I live in South America and I can assure you that Hugo Chaves is shaking in the rope. The own Venezuelan people can't handle him anymore. He's hated 'cos his "Bolivarian socialist revolution" left Venezuela more f*cked than never. The poverty persists, the money coming from oil goes ONLY to the bank counts of government puppets and local warlords associated to FARC and drug cartels. Grows in South America the consciousness he's a serious threat to the stability of entire American continent, once the USA is coming to install military bases in Colombia. However I'm afraid the most of south-americans just mind with soccer, soap TV shows and samba-like parties. The result in the last decade was the rising of New-socialist governments associated with drug cartels and guerrillas. I'm very concerned that Chaves has been leading a latin support axis for Ahmadinejad nuke program. As you can see, a very dark scenario...

Below, images that show what the Venezuelans think about Hugo Chaves, actually...

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I'm curious. Being Australian I have no idea. But do the Falkland Island guys get commonwealth style healthcare?