Carbon Currency: A New Beginning for Technocracy?

A friend once told me that all roads lead to Rome. I didn't quite grasp it at the time but now I believe I could see the validity in that statement. I came across this doing a search for global club of rome. Just on a whim. Whatever was on my brain.

As the Canadian Association for the Club of Rome recently stated, “The issue of peak oil impinges directly on the climate change question.”

Global currency replacing all paper currencies, limiting manufacturing, food production and people movement

Critics who think that the U.S. dollar will be replaced by some new global currency are perhaps thinking too small. On the world horizon looms a new global currency that could replace all paper currencies and the economic system upon which they are based. The new currency, simply called Carbon Currency, is designed to support a revolutionary new economic system based on energy (production, and consumption), instead of price. Our current price-based economic system and its related currencies that have supported capitalism, socialism, fascism and communism, is being herded to the slaughterhouse in order to make way for a new carbon-based world. It is plainly evident that the world is laboring under a dying system of price-based economics as evidenced by the rapid decline of paper currencies. The era of fiat (irredeemable paper currency) was introduced in 1971 when President Richard Nixon decoupled the U.S. dollar from gold. Because the dollar-turned-fiat was the world’s primary reserve asset, all other currencies eventually followed suit, leaving us today with a global sea of paper that is increasingly undesired, unstable, unusable.

canadafreepress.com...

The collapse of the dollar, was it done to prepare the way for a global currency?

Will it really work in the end? Everyone can see the benefits of a united mankind. Eliminating poverty and bringing comfort to those in need. More people would be inclined to realize their true potential unburdened.

The Bible, if you believe in it, says that mankind was once united. Anything they imagined they could accomplish. It ended in disaster because the only thing they could imagine was evil. Are we on our way to round two?

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In 1933, Hubbert and Howard Scott formed an organization called Technocracy, Inc. Technocracy is derived from the Greek words “techne” meaning skill and “kratos”, meaning rule. Thus, it is government by skilled engineers, scientists and technicians as opposed to elected officials. It was opposed to all other forms of government, including communism, socialism and fascism, all of which function with a price-based economy. As founders of the organization and political movement called Technocracy, Inc., Hubbert and Scott also co-authored Technocracy Study Course in 1934. This book serves as the “bible” of Technocracy and is the root document to which most all modern technocratic thinking can be traced.

This external source is the same link as the opening post. Here we see that this form of rule is led by scientists and technicians. Not elected officials. I am almost falling for it. Think about it, we are to be governed by what actual scientific facts tell us. Unburdened by special interest groups or popularity polls.

“For those keen to slow global warming, the most effective actions are in the creation of strong national carbon currencies… For scholars and policymakers, the key task is to mine history for guides that are more useful. Global warming is considered an environmental issue, but its best solutions are not to be found in the canon of environmental law. Carbon’s ubiquity in the world economy demands that cost be a consideration in any regime to limit emissions. Indeed, emissions trading has been anointed king because it is the most responsive to cost. And since trading emissions for carbon is more akin to trading currency than eliminating a pollutant, policymakers should be looking at trade and finance with an eye to how carbon markets should be governed. We must anticipate the policy challenges that will arise as this bottom-up system emerges, including the governance of seams between each of the nascent trading systems, liability rules for bogus permits, and judicial cooperation.

Again this is the same external source as the opening post.

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What is the basis of Technocracy?

1. The first is that there exists on the North American Continent a physical potential in resources to produce a high standard of goods and services for all citizens, and that the high-speed technology for converting these resources to use-forms in sufficient volume is already installed, and that the skilled personnel for operating it are present and available. Yet we have unprecedented insecurity, extensive poverty and rampant crime.

2. The second conclusion of Technocracy is that our current economic and political model, (called the Price System) can no longer function adequately as a method of production and distribution of goods. The invention of power machinery has made it possible to produce a plethora of goods with a relatively small amount of human labor. As machines displace men and women, however, purchasing power is destroyed, for if people cannot work for wages and salaries, they cannot buy goods. We find ourselves, then, in this paradoxical situation: the more we produce, the less we are able to consume.

3. The final basic conclusion is that a new distributive system must be instituted that is designed to satisfy the special needs of an environment of technological adequacy, and that this system must not in any way be associated with the extent of an individual's functional contribution to society.

This comes from the Technocracy website. Some interesting stuff. Again it sounds almost too good. Do we see any part of this agenda in the MSM today?

France's Sarkozy Calls For Overhaul Of Global Currency System Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 13:35

Donning his radical reformist cap for a keynote address to the World Economic Forum, Sarkozy returned to themes that have become familiar since the outbreak of the crisis: the need for tougher banking regulation, limits on speculation and bonuses and a level playing field in the global market place. "Exchange rate volatility and the undervaluation of certain currencies militates against fair trade and honest competition," he charged, decrying the persistence of "a single benchmark currency" in a multi-polar world. "We need a new Bretton Woods" system, he declared, pledging to place the "reform of the international monetary system" on the agenda of the G8 and the G20 when France assumes their presidency next year. Sarkozy also warned against an "abrupt" unwinding of monetary and fiscal stimulus measures before the economic recovery is solidly in place.

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A very relevant article today. This is all moving in the direction of a one world government, no doubt.

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Every system prior to implementation sounds awesome and wonderful. As an ideal Communism even sounded alright. In practise it was not feasible. Neither, in my oppinion, is capitalism. A technocracy sounds rosy and wonderful but the new currency will be the carbon credit and that will become the new profit for corporations to twist and distort to their own ends. I am mistrustful of anything the government or a think tank tells me is a wonderful idea. They have a worse track record than used car salesman.

The above idea does not explain how the vain driven populace will "pay" for their gadgets and their clothing that shows their taste or attractiveness. If its based on carbon then the credit seems to be an intermediary. Will I work as I did before only instead of calling what I earn "money" it will be called credits? and if this is the case what has changed? Poverty will still exist and the current drive for ever increasing profits will continue the trend of producing exponentially more things than there are people to consume them.

I am doubtful, short of humanity shedding its current "values" of me, myself and I and the ego driven lifestyle that a system based on energy will make anything better.

Cheers

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I am going to agree with you one hundred percent. I don't believe that a new monetary system based on credits will work. The point I am trying to get at here, is that the agenda is driving ever closer.

The article that I posted about France's Sarkozy calling for a new global currency based on the climate nonsense is what I am getting at. They are driving this agenda down everyone's throat at all costs. Obama even admitted in his speech last night that even if you don't believe the scientific data about global warming, the economy is still going that way.

What he meant was that companies around the globe will be looking for green technologies to implement because the price of doing business will skyrocket without them. He is right but he is driving the agenda as well even with his go with the flow attitude.

I am not one to say just go ahead and pollute. I am trying to see how and where the new global governance will come into play. It is right before our very eyes. They play us on an emotional level about the climate. They play us on a financial level about the needy around the world which encompasses the emotional level as well. It's brilliant.

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The thing I find interesting about this is the issue of tracking usage.

This would be an excellent way to invade every single angle of privacy that people have, use your car (ping 2 carbon credits used in live time), use your phone (ping 1 credit used), flush the toilet (ping 1 credit used) and so on.

Where would it stop??

We are a carbon based life form. We pollute the atmosphere on an individual basis when we exhale, how will that be tracked and what price would each individual have to pay to stay alive?

I dont like this one bit because it would need far too much tracking and invasion of technology even to the point of being in your body.

Its going to happen one way or another however, its just a question of when.



PS: I was just thinking a little about this there, can you imagine it, "honey I got a promotion tonight, we get 3 extra credits per day! Now we can fart without having to turn the washing machine off as we have enough funds!"



Its actually that crazy it would probably become a reality.

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Oprah was on yesterday. The wife was watching it, hypnotized. I was in the kitchen listening in doing something or the other. The show was focused on a movie called Food inc. It was her purpose to bring to light the foods we eat and where they come from.

Now we all remember good ole Cass Sunstein right? If you don't he is the information regulatory czar for Obama and he is an avid animal rights activist. He believes animals should have the right to sue and wants to ban hunting. Oprah's show was promoting this agenda and the supposed global food emergency.

In the show she was sure to show genetically modified chickens that were barely able to walk. She even had a very popular star show us what she buys now and how it has helped her tremendously. By the way, that star is a vegetarian now and has seen the light.

If you go to the official movie site of Food Inc. You will learn about what an awful global impact our behavior creates. They want to get us ready to be happy with what they are going to let us have. They played the emotional level with the sad farm animals. They played some emotions that I cannot even describe. It's a global agenda.

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1 Timothy 4:1-3

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times
some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing
spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in
hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats,
which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of
them which believe and know the truth."

Tell your wife to stop watching Oprah, shes full of nonsense (Oprah that is).

It bugs me how much the global warm... sorry climate change is infecting peoples minds. I get mixed up these days with the amount of name changes they give the theory, I could even quote on it but im not here to quote constantly.

If we really are destroying the world and it was as clear cut as the media would tell it, we should all just jump off cliffs with an animal strapped to our backs to save the planet. We are carbon based life forms, we pollute just by breathing alone, never mind anything else. Saving all the animals and the world becoming vegans would simply result in more pollution with the amount of animals letting off and breathing into the atmosphere.

Ill be enjoying a lovely lamb roast tonight and ill give thanks for it thats for sure, its in the oven right now and they can take their carbon credit system and shove it right back to the pit it came from.

Do not get me wrong, there is a massive difference from someone choosing to not eat a specific meat due to the way it is slaughtered or because it is processed, but someone choosing to become a vegan to save the planet is wrong for many reasons.

But hey, the proof will be in the pudding in due course.



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Thanks for the scripture! I have seen a lot of doctrines that could be considered from the devil lately. As far as the wife watching Oprah, I wouldn't tell her not to. It gives me a chance to show her the real agenda behind her messages. Sometimes it is fun.

The global warming nonsense is what I believe is going to be used to unite the whole of mankind. After some cataclysmic event. They have it all figured out already.

Now I'm not saying let's all just pollute because its nonsense. Far from it, I applaud the effort of doing our business wisely and cleanly. They just want to ratchet it up a notch to the global level and create a one world government with it.

"In a report titled "The First Global Revolution" (1991) published by the Club of Rome, a globalist think tank, we find the following statement: "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.... All these dangers are caused by human intervention... The real enemy, then, is humanity itself." "Richard Haass, the current president of the Council on Foreign Relations, stated in his article "State sovereignty must be altered in globalized era," that a system of world government must be created and sovereignty eliminated in order to fight global warming, as well as terrorism. "Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function," says Haass. "Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves..."

www.capitolhillblue.com...

This article came out ten hours ago. Here we see that they would like us to give up our sovereignty to protect ourselves. Unbelievable.