Enough with the Vampire talk.

I was an Anne Rice fan back in the early nineties also (when I was hardly into my 20s) and yeah I liked vampires then also. The sense of alienation that Vampire stories portrayed seemed to mirror my own life in ways that only a teenager crossing into adulthood could experience. To live forever and have cool powers was an awesome prospect and all that lace and...
..Oh for God's sake!! This is ATS not a gloomy doomy goth hang out and act like an idiot site. Vampires ARE NOT REAL! Grow up people even Anne Rice grew up and now some of her "non Vampire" books are WAAAYY better. If you think you're a vampire I'll give you this much- you definitely are a parasite. No wait, you're a troll. Go find a bridge.
Vampires..What a load of crap. I'd like to knock the porcelein fangs out of the mouths of those dumb@$$ posers. You come here to this site and make us look even worse than we already look. Bad enough we got people here who think they're aliens but VAMPIRES? Dear God, not here please!
Oh well Aliens are cooler anyway and I believe in them.

[edit on 5-12-2009 by R0BCROW75]

reply to post by Ridhya


sure i've heard of rumours. but not universal all over the world rumours about the same thing with no means of modern communication.

i've studied vampires quite a bit. I wouldnt say for sure without a doubt i know that they're real but i will say that its very probable. humans require vitamin D from the sunlight and require more nutrients than blood provides. real vampires are not physically human. they are something else that is still not understood. and while i can certainly see a mental condition that causes an obsession with blood...vampires are not obsessed with blood any more than im obsessed with peanut butter sandwiches. its simply food to them. and regarding the bite...being bitten by a vampire will not cause a person to become one. thats a myth.

reply to post by R0BCROW75


so, you dont believe in vampires because thats just silly, but aliens are cooler, so you believe in them? thats some interesting logic you have there

and with people who publicly claim to be vampires, i think they're full of BS as well. because with the research i've done, i've learned that the one thing the real vampires want is secrecy. and they do not wish to be known about by the human race. So kicking the porcelain fangs out of the mouth of a poser is something that i would like to do myself.

reply to post by gYvMessanger

There are themes which seem to crop up as template concepts through humanities history, trying to find out why is always worthwhile.

Using the 'go with what you know' I will say that there are psychological archetypes that are found all over the world, it is human, not specific to one group of people.

They often say symbols we find world wide are because of similar thought patterns and the way we imagine things, and thus come out with similar ideas. Like dragons for example, they are world wide, but they all look different!


reply to post by devilishlyangelic23

If one person travel to another country though and comes back with story of a rumour from the locals, then yes it can spread a myth!

Exactly like the dragons on Komodo island! And I am sure seeing crocodiles/elephants/gorillas for the first time would be a HORRIFYING story to come back with!

I just dont believe you can get ALL the nutrients you need from blood, surely that would take dozens of litres a night. Blood just transport nutrients to the areas that need them.

uummmm of cousre vampires are real, wasn't there a documentary just released called Twilight ; New Moon ???

like omg, how did you not know that, I'm like totally spazzing out.




sarcasm, for anyone with learning impairments / hardcore twilight fans.

[edit on 5-12-2009 by IntastellaBurst]

These are the real "vampires".

money.cnn.com...

10/28/2008 Wells Fargo & Co. San Francisco Calif. $25,000,000,000
10/28/2008 State Street Corp. Boston Mass. $2,000,000,000
10/28/2008 Bank of America Corp.1 Charlotte N.C. $15,000,000,000
10/28/2008 JPMorgan Chase & Co. New York N.Y. $25,000,000,000
10/28/2008 Citigroup Inc. New York N.Y. $25,000,000,000
10/28/2008 Morgan Stanley New York N.Y. $10,000,000,000
10/28/2008 Goldman Sachs Group Inc. New York N.Y. $10,000,000,000
10/28/2008 Bank of New York Mellon Corp. New York N.Y. $3,000,000,000
11/17/2008 Regions Financial Corp. Birmingham Ala. $3,500,000,000
11/17/2008 UCBH Holdings Inc. San Francisco Calif. $298,737,000
11/17/2008 Bank of Commerce Holdings Redding Calif. $17,000,000
11/17/2008 Broadway Financial Corp. Los Angeles Calif. $9,000,000
11/17/2008 SunTrust Banks Inc. Atlanta Ga. $3,500,000,000
11/17/2008 Northern Trust Corp. Chicago Ill. $1,576,000,000
11/17/2008 Provident Bancshares Corp. Baltimore Md. $151,500,000
11/17/2008 U.S. Bancorp Minneapolis Minn. $6,599,000,000
11/17/2008 TCF Financial Corp. Wayzata Minn. $361,172,000
11/17/2008 BB&T Corp. Winston-Salem N.C. $3,133,640,000
11/17/2008 1st FS Corp. Hendersonville N.C. $16,369,000
11/17/2008 Valley National Bancorp Wayne N.J. $300,000,000
11/17/2008 KeyCorp Cleveland Ohio $2,500,000,000
11/17/2008 Huntington Bancshares Columbus Ohio $1,398,071,000
11/17/2008 Umpqua Holdings Corp. Portland Ore. $214,181,000
11/17/2008 First Horizon National Corp. Memphis Tenn. $866,540,000
11/17/2008 Comerica Inc. Dallas Texas $2,250,000,000
11/17/2008 Zions Bancorporation Salt Lake City Utah $1,400,000,000
11/17/2008 Capital One Financial Corp. McLean Va. $3,555,199,000
11/17/2008 Washington Federal Inc. Seattle Wash. $200,000,000
11/17/2008 Marshall & Ilsley Corp. Milwaukee Wis. $1,715,000,000
11/21/2008 City National Corporation Beverly Hills Calif. $400,000,000
11/21/2008 Pacific Capital Bancorp Santa Barbara Calif. $180,634,000
11/21/2008 Heritage Commerce Corp. San Jose Calif. $40,000,000
11/21/2008 First PacTrust Bancorp, Inc. Chula Vista Calif. $19,300,000
11/21/2008 Nara Bancorp, Inc. Los Angeles Calif. $67,000,000
11/21/2008 Webster Financial Corporation Waterbury Conn. $400,000,000
11/21/2008 Centerstate Banks of Florida Inc. Davenport Fla. $27,875,000
11/21/2008 Ameris Bancorp Moultrie Ga. $52,000,000
11/21/2008 Taylor Capital Group Rosemont Ill. $104,823,000
11/21/2008 Porter Bancorp Inc. Louisville Ky. $35,000,000
11/21/2008 Boston Private Financial Holdings, Inc. Boston Mass. $154,000,000
11/21/2008 Severn Bancorp, Inc. Annapolis Md. $23,393,000
11/21/2008 Trustmark Corporation Jackson Miss. $215,000,000
11/21/2008 First Niagara Financial Group Lockport N.Y. $184,011,000
11/21/2008 Western Alliance Bancorporation Las Vegas Nev. $140,000,000
11/21/2008 First Community Corporation Lexington S.C. $11,350,000
11/21/2008 HF Financial Corp. Sioux Falls S.D. $25,000,000
11/21/2008 First Community Bankshares Inc. Bluefield Va. $41,500,000
11/21/2008 Banner Corporation Walla Walla Wash. $124,000,000
11/21/2008 Cascade Financial Corporation Everett Wash. $38,970,000
11/21/2008 Columbia Banking System, Inc. Tacoma Wash. $76,898,000
11/21/2008 Heritage Financial Corporation Olympia Wash. $24,000,000
11/21/2008 Associated Banc-Corp Green Bay Wis. $525,000,000
12/5/2008 Superior Bancorp Inc. Birmingham Ala. $69,000,000
12/5/2008 Manhattan Bancorp El Segundo Calif. $1,700,000
12/5/2008 East West Bancorp Pasadena Calif. $306,546,000
12/5/2008 Cathay General Bancorp Los Angeles Calif. $258,000,000
12/5/2008 CVB Financial Corp Ontario Calif. $130,000,000
12/5/2008 Bank of Marin Bancorp Novato Calif. $28,000,000
12/5/2008 Oak Valley Bancorp Oakdale Calif. $13,500,000
12/5/2008 Coastal Banking Company, Inc. Fernandina Beach Fla. $9,950,000
12/5/2008 TIB Financial Corp Naples Fla. $37,000,000
12/5/2008 FPB Bancorp, Inc. Port St. Lucie Fla. $5,800,000
12/5/2008 United Community Banks, Inc. Blairsville Ga. $180,000,000
12/5/2008 MB Financial Inc. Chicago Ill. $196,000,000
12/5/2008 First Midwest Bancorp, Inc. Itasca Ill. $193,000,000
12/5/2008 Old National Bancorp Evansville Ind. $100,000,000
12/5/2008 Blue Valley Ban Corp Overland Park Kan. $21,750,000
12/5/2008 Iberiabank Corporation Lafayette La. $90,000,000
12/5/2008 Central Bancorp, Inc. Somerville Mass. $10,000,000
12/5/2008 Eagle Bancorp, Inc. Bethesda Md. $38,235,000
12/5/2008 Sandy Spring Bancorp, Inc. Olney Md. $83,094,000
12/5/2008 Old Line Bancshares, Inc. Bowie Md. $7,000,000
12/5/2008 Great Southern Bancorp Springfield Mo. $58,000,000
12/5/2008 Southern Missouri Bancorp, Inc. Poplar Bluff Mo. $9,550,000
12/5/2008 Southern Community Financial Corp. Winston-Salem N.C. $42,750,000
12/5/2008 Bank of North Carolina Thomasville N.C. $31,260,000
12/5/2008 Unity Bancorp, Inc. Clinton N.J. $20,649,000
12/5/2008 State Bancorp, Inc. Jericho N.Y. $36,842,000
12/5/2008 First Defiance Financial Corp. Defiance Ohio $37,000,000
12/5/2008 Central Federal Corporation Fairlawn Ohio $7,225,000
12/5/2008 Southwest Bancorp, Inc. Stillwater Okla. $70,000,000
12/5/2008 Popular, Inc. San Juan Puerto Rico $935,000,000
12/5/2008 South Financial Group, Inc. Greenville S.C. $347,000,000
12/5/2008 First Financial Holdings Inc. Charleston S.C. $65,000,000
12/5/2008 Encore Bancshares Inc. Houston Texas $34,000,000
12/5/2008 Wesbanco Bank Inc. Wheeling W.Va. $75,000,000
12/5/2008 Sterling Financial Corporation Spokane Wash. $303,000,000
12/12/2008 Bank Of the Ozarks Inc. Little Rock Ariz. $75,000,000
12/12/2008 SVB Financial Group Santa Clara Calif. $235,000,000
12/12/2008 Center Financial Corp. Los Angeles Calif. $55,000,000
12/12/2008 Wilshire Bancorp Inc. Los Angeles Calif. $62,158,000
12/12/2008 First Litchfield Financial Corp. Litchfield Conn. $10,000,000
12/12/2008 Wilmington Trust Corp. Wilmington Del. $330,000,000
12/12/2008 The Bancorp Inc. Wilmington Del. $45,220,000
12/12/2008 Indiana Community Bancorp Columbus Ind. $21,500,000
12/12/2008 HopFed Bancorp Hopkinsville Ky. $18,400,000
12/12/2008 LSB Corp. Andover Mass. $15,000,000
12/12/2008 Northeast Bancorp Lewiston Maine $4,227,000
12/12/2008 Citizens Republic Bancorp Inc. Flint Mich. $300,000,000

there are quite a few more but go to the site to see them all.

and..............

Bank of America is among the companies being bailed by U.S. taxpayers out while having subsidiaries where they can avoid paying U.S. taxes.

www.washingtonpost.com...

Most of America's largest publicly traded corporations -- including several that are receiving billions of dollars from U.S. taxpayers to finance their recovery -- have set up offshore operations that could help them avoid paying U.S. taxes on their profits.

American International Group, Bank of America, Citigroup and Morgan Stanley are among the companies that are getting bailed out by U.S. taxpayers while having subsidiaries in locations where they can avoid paying U.S. taxes, according to the Government Accountability Office.

Of the 100 largest public companies, 83 do business in tax-haven hotspots like the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and the British Virgin Islands, where they can move their income into tax-free accounts.

It is all legal, but it could come to an end, given the dire condition of the U.S. economy and President-elect Barack Obama's campaign pledge to close this popular business tax loophole. The Treasury estimates that it loses $100 billion a year in tax revenue as a result of companies shipping their income off shore, and congressional leaders are vowing to introduce legislation forcing big companies to pay full freight.

The GAO did not independently review company transactions to see if the companies purposely created tax-haven businesses to avoid U.S. taxes. But it said that historically, offshore subsidiaries are used for reducing tax costs and shielding transactions from public view.

Several of the companies are household names, including Pepsi, Exxon, Dell and Dow Chemical. In the list of 100 companies that GAO studied were 63 with major federal contracts, including Caterpillar, BearingPoint, Boeing, Merck & Co. and Kraft Foods.

Read my location........America is truely run by "Corporate America" and if people don't wake up and rebel we are all going to become slaves of the NWO.



Live long & prosper


[edit on 5-12-2009 by ofhumandescent]

Originally posted by devilishlyangelic23
hm, vampires never existed? then why are there stories about these creatures from all over the world for many many many years? where did the legends come from? and without the availability of modern communication technology these people all over the world had stories of the same type of creature, never having talked to each other. im sorry, im just not naive enough to think that i know everything and that i know which creatures exist and which dont. do i think that vampires exist? im not sure, as i've never met one. but im not going to immediately discount their existence based on a lack of physical proof. there are many things that cant be physically proven and there are many things that exist even though you cant see them.

Name something that can't be physically proven but that exists anyway. Please. Even "weird" concepts such as dark matter are "visible" due to the observation of their interaction with the stuff around them.

There are vampires all over the world for the simple reason that pretty much every human culture has a big fear of A) being eaten, and B) waking up dead.

So it's pretty easy to come up with a creature that comes in the night and steals your life away - and when you're part of a culture that believes blood is the source of life, you're going to come up with an evil night-thing that sucks your blood.

And boom, vampire. This was probably helped by such pleasant customers as bedbugs, which not only carve open your skin to suck up some blood, but hten poop blood pellets all in your bedding that get inundated with sweat and turn into bloody smears on hte body. I doubt many people stayed up at night waiting to see insects take a chunk of skin out of them.

This post is a pain in the neck.vlad the impailer drank the blood from his enemies.VAMPIRE dont think so,........To much tv.

reply to post by Ridhya


i saw a shirt that said i perfectly, "f*** being a princess, i wanna be a vampire."

tis true, too.

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


Thats a perfect way of putting it, what I mean by archetypes. Universal fears that are condition of humanity everywhere.
Fear of the Unknown > Fear of Darkness > Fear of Night +
Fear of being killed/eaten > fear of being attacked by a monster (what else would eat people?)
= Vampire. It embodies the fear of darkness + unknown + being killed nightmarishly. Plus if you do add in the turning into a vampire, losing your humanity!

reply to post by Trappestine


Well there are Vampire Bats & Vampire Squid... They both suck blood!

"The greatest lie the devil ever successfully told was that he did not exist."

reply to post by devilishlyangelic23


Aliens seem more plausible. And I was actually referring to a nut who my sister E-dated in the early days of the internet- BBS. At any rate, it was a bad attempt at humor and I apologize if my "logic" in any way confounds you. I was talking about people who think they're vampires.

Or maybe vampires and aliens are the same...

note: in all seriousness, I do believe that non corporeal parasitic entities do indeed exist but the romantic sparkly bisexual vampires of literature are simply BS metaphors for an all too human sense of alientation.

[edit on 6-12-2009 by R0BCROW75]

Apart from whether the vampires who are in the garments of human flesh does really exist in this real world or it is just another incredulous creatures that is all in your head, the stories of vampires are always swell and best thing since sliced bread for me, especially when it comes to anne rice's and meyer's.
In my opinion, the vampires story is just like fairies, phantoms or aliens folk tales which cannot be proved for its truism by the most logical reason, which it is also completely outside the realm of scientific provable data. We may heard the stories from the predecessors. And it is like any other myths which are getting reinforced and ingrained by keep being told from generation to generation. Till at the end of the day, it just remains as a fantastic cock-and-bull story and beyond belief. Since I have never heard people did an acid test to pinpoint the fact.

Originally posted by Trappestine
Vampires do not exist. They never have, they never will.

I AM a Vampire. Mwahahhahahaahahahah

You possess no evidence to deny that im right. Mwahahahhahah

Sorry this is a stupid post.

Deny Ignorance.
Deny ME! :_P

The people involved with black magic , for instance in voodoo and palo mayombe, they have mentioned that the ones really going to the dark side can become vampires because they consider it the best source of energy in this physical world. It is usually kept very secret because they don't want to reveal their true powers to other witches or priests. My family in the Caribbean were kind of involved in something like this and one of the female vampires that I met died because her legs "dried up" when she decided to cast a spell to a most powerful witch. She cried every night and not even her son wanted to take care of her. My grandmother, who was very christian, used to send me with food and I was not allowed to turn my back on her.

My .02 cents....maybe they are real. I am making this comment because the people in my neighborhood used to warn us all the time when a "vampire" was in town. Then the stories about the chupacabras started to appear so everything got distorted.

Also, there is a high possibility too that human vampires do exist if there is somekind of virus or parasite involved.

-relop

Of course. All of you that think vampires don't and can't exist are right. Especially since you only have science to back your theories up. We all know it must be true, even when science is often proven wrong. But sure I'll be on your side in saying most creations are fake such as vampires. And I believe the condition vampirism is false. Yet that is only my opinion/theory.

reply to post by Sappyvamp

I don't know if Vampires exist or not? But try thinking about it this way; On this planet we have Deer, Geese, Bears, Cats, Wolves, Dogs, Lizards, Birds and many other types of animals and reptiles to only mention a few. Yet each of these many types of creatures has more then one species within it.
So here is the question? Can you be so sure that humanity is only one species and not many? Including vampires, werewolves, etc, etc.

something to think about.

reply to post by Trappestine


You are a normal human being. you will never get the proof of ANYTHING before its to late. Neither of government economy situation,war situation,technology,history,science,ghosts and other paranormal info. B

because you simple dont have what it takes when it comes to withholding info about these things. We high up in the government will always hide stuff like those for the "ordinary" man,if it got out we would have anarchi and worse.

You will very soon Experience something you could never imagine. So you every question will be answered,dont worry Just hang on tight

Finally, I wonderd when someone else would address this ^>^

I made a thread about the same thing a year or so back and was met with boo's and hisses.

Vampires have no buisness in cryptozoology, none what so ever.

Years back, you should of seen all the threads on lycans and vampires, it was so irritating to get on and try and read some legit cryptid info, and the whole page is practically " how can I become a vampire?" "Is it possible to turn yourself into a werewolf?"

Now you see, im fine with this. IF THERES ONE SINGLE THREAD FOR THEM/
I particularly like browsing through the vampire encounters thread from time to time to read some of the stories on there. ( all though most of the pages are flame wars)

Mod's seriously need to add a sub forum for things like that, possibly for bigfoot/nessie/chupa as well as a possible " Encounters sub forum" one I can gurantee would help muchly and keep the forum in order better.

-Kiki