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Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to post by OhZone
Forced Pregnancy is Slavery. And since you expect the Mother to care for the child that makes her an indentured servant for some 20 years.
****THey are if they are FORCED to stay pregnant because YOU want them to be.****
You have got to be kidding. So now mothers are indentured servants. Hell I must be one two, because I have been raising two kids by myself the last 5 years.
****Good for you. Did you save them from being aborted?****
Hotsauce, how many babies have you adopted?
Just wondering if you are willing to walk the talk.
[edit on 11-11-2009 by OhZone]
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
In the words of bill hicks " If your pro-life, why are you not blocking the entrances to graveyards?!"
Hahaha. I will NEVER see the logic of Anti-Abortionists. I just dont think your view serves a useful purpose. In a perfect world everyone would be able to take care of their children but sadly that is not the world we live in. Until that world comes into existance i'm all for abortion.
Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to post by gwynnhwyfar
Well I think you may be wrong. The bill just doesn't let government funded insurance cover abortions. Women can still get them they will just have to pay for them instead of the tax payer.
If some people are such huge fans of paying to end kids lives before they even get a chance why don't they start a non-profit where people can donate to pay for abortions. Then the blood can be on their hands for paying for something they love and have a commitment too.
Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
Well usually by the time you get to the graveyard you are already dead. My issue with abortion is that I don't think a woman should have a choice to let a doctor suck her baby's brain out through a straw just because she finds it to be inconvenient that she finds herself with child.
Originally posted by john124
Women should be allowed 1 abortion by the taxpayer in the UK, and only when it's obvious that it was a tragic mistake.
Some British women have dozens of abortions on the NHS, and it's pathetic.
I don't think it's fair in some cases for those women who cannot afford an abortion, or a child, to tell them tough luck you're having the kid. As human being's make mistakes, but most learn from these mistakes. Those who don't learn, nobody can help them, but preventing taxpayer abortions will only lead to more kids in care.
Some comments here say that the fetuses that are aborted deserve a life, but that's a contradiction when proper contraception is used - these kids would have never existed! How can they deserve an existence, yet should never have existed?
Wow it's good to know that you are for the killing of an innocent life.
Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to post by canadianmouse
Killing a live child is murder, that child is living and breathing. Abotion isn't murder because abortion is legal and not the murdering of life. Life is when the person can live and breathe on their own. In a mother's womb they can not.
Where are you getting your information of why women had an abortion? Because I can start pulling out records to that will prove you are wrong. And these records are unbiased unlike the ones you are probably looking at.
Just because the government says killing an unborn child is legal does not mean it isn't murderl. Murder is legal in at least two other ways in this country. War and captal punishment. I actually support those two forms, though I am a tad squeemish about capital punishment.
According your logic then it would be ok to kill a child that needed to be put on a ventillator or hearth machine for life support right after it was born, even if there is 100% chance it would live given the right treatment.
Repeat abortions have reached a record high, figures released today reveal.
One third of women who had an abortion last year were on their second, third or even eighth termination, new figures show.
The statistics will fuel the debate over whether some women are using abortion as a form of contraception.
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by john124
Women should be allowed 1 abortion by the taxpayer in the UK, and only when it's obvious that it was a tragic mistake.
Some British women have dozens of abortions on the NHS, and it's pathetic.
I don't think it's fair in some cases for those women who cannot afford an abortion, or a child, to tell them tough luck you're having the kid. As human being's make mistakes, but most learn from these mistakes. Those who don't learn, nobody can help them, but preventing taxpayer abortions will only lead to more kids in care.
Some comments here say that the fetuses that are aborted deserve a life, but that's a contradiction when proper contraception is used - these kids would have never existed! How can they deserve an existence, yet should never have existed?
really??? some british women have had dozens of abortions??? show us this government statistic, and not something from some right wing or christian website.
It took me close to a decade to write my book, Impossible Motherhood: Testimony of an Abortion Addict. I had been driven by the need to understand and explain my destructive actions. Though my story was a terrible one, I had broken the cycle and mended a torn self. I was a writer who had overcome a serious neurosis.
My neurotic behaviours were extreme, my pathology difficult to identify with, yet in the almost grotesque extent of my destructive actions as I forgot to take my Pill time after time to indulge in the fantasy of potential motherhood, I was convinced I had put my finger on something. Fifteen pregnancies, most of them in one romance gone sour while married to a college professor 34 years my senior, were 15 “highs” charting an imaginary path of control and empowerment that resulted in 15 despairing terminations.
Repeat abortions have reached a record high, figures released today reveal.
One third of women who had an abortion last year were on their second, third or even eighth termination, new figures show.
The statistics will fuel the debate over whether some women are using abortion as a form of contraception.
In total, there were 64,715 repeat abortions in 2008, 33 per cent of the total and up from 64,230 the year before.
Your logic is so flawed it is almost insane. You support war and capital punishment but not abortion? So children in war torn countries have no right to live?
Not once to my logic have I stated that it would be okay to kill a child on a ventilator so keep trying to read between the lines that aren't there in what I am typing. In a womb a baby can not survive outside of it. It requires the mother. It can not sleep in a bed, have a ventilator or an iv to keep it alive. The baby would die without the mother.