Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech

Joe Wilson just kissed his election bid GOODBYE. What a stupid and disrespectful thing to say. Shoot, even John McCain said so.

Decoy

Originally posted by lee anoma
What's next?
Throwing shoes?

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Why not?
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Now its quite the opposite.
Openly disrespecting your own president means you're a true patriot and those that support him are Nazis.

lots of members just laughed and wanted to throw their own shoes at Bush back then. But now many of those same members claim people are Nazis for telling the president lies, and for showing the truth about President Obama's, and his entire administration agenda to convert this nation into some form of a Socialist dictatorship.

Originally posted by lee anoma
Disagree and debate with him or his policies Mr. Congressman, but don't do it like a five-year old upset during story-time.

- Lee

The forefathers of this nation engaged in this kind of arguments over disagreements all the time. It is all part of the ANIMATED CONTEST OF FREEDOM....

If you don't yell, and complain in time about the actions of the government which is destorying this nation, and making it possible for the STATE to have control over all infraestructure, it will be too late to start yelling and complaining when the nation has already been transformed into a Socialist dictatorship.

[edit on 10-9-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

reply to post by FlyersFan


He apologized after the Truth Squad visited his family.

The Obama mafia will not allow any dissention.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
it will be too late to start yelling and complaining when the nation has already been transformed into a Socialist dictatorship.

[edit on 10-9-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

Well this dictator crap is getting old EU, if Obama were a dictator Wilson would be a stiff at this very moment. All the ATSers who speak the border/blatant seditious rhetoric would be the same months ago. This line of attack has worked well in the short term, but its novelty
is quickly going to have a net negative effect.

As it is, I have recently made more than a few new friendships with conservative ATSers who are starting to feel very alienated by all the xenophobic stuff you guys are shoveling. You guys have had a good gain in momentum, but you are not playing the long haul very well.

Originally posted by seabisquit
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

He apologized after the Truth Squad visited his family.

The Obama mafia will not allow any dissention.

YA senator Mccain

I bet he is unconstitutional now

Yep this rhetoric that the GOP is spouting is starting to wear real thin. It's proven time and again that they are spouting nonsense and fear mongering.

This is an example. If people would bother to research for themselves these issues then they would understand them better and find legitimate reasons to be upset. Instead what do we get? Death panels and Illegal Alien care? Both of which are horse dookie.

Calling Obama a liar when it's the GOP that has been lying is a pot calling the kettle black.

Instead of coming up with an actual workable plan the GOP has reduced itself to spreading lies and disinformation. They have resorted to scare tactics in order to try and push their agenda of trying to make Obama look bad. Unfortunately it's starting to backfire on the GOP and they are starting to look like fools.

reply to post by whatukno


Apparently it's working well enough. The democrats wouldn't need a single republican vote to get anything done if they were actually unified. Why are they getting any attention paid to them at all?

In other words, forget the republicans, they can't do a thing other than talk. Chances are good that they'll vote unanimously no (with the possible exception of a few RINOs), and it doesn't matter in the least. Instead, this is a huge deal. If Obama's policies are so wonderful, wouldn't it be smarter for the democrats to just pass everything as soon as possible without the republican support so they can take all the credit?

Originally posted by OnTheFelt

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
I stopped reading when you said that we need more bipartisan support

you want change, get out of the facade of a two-party system
"oh should we screw our nation this way or that way" party!

Good luck in life bro!

QUOTED FOR TRUTH!

agreed! theres no such thing, he originally said he wants bipartisan support but he doesn't need it in the end. he definitely lied when he said he won't sign something that doesnt increase our deficit, but if i remember correctly the congressional budget office said it will. in the end its people talking out of both sides of their mouth and in regards to outburst, if i remember correctly in the bill it does say you need to be an american, but it doesnt require a background check or "proof" of identity. i put proof in quotes because anyone can get USA identification in echo park in los angeles, and who knows someone can be using my social security number right now

what people need to understand is:

when ANY uninsured person (illegal or otherwise) goes to the hospital for care, they get the absolute minimum in care. have to wait for an opening in the emergency room, or go to some dingy tiny clinic just to have a doctor look at their child. we are not talking state of the art care.


to all of you who think illegals have it made. any citizen of the united states, go to a doctor ask for care and tell them you are uninsured and unemployed. see what type of care you get.

i get so angry when i see and hear people talk of how good the illegals have it. i'm sure it's better than where they came from but in all honesty, they don't.

now, on a lighter note:

i think mc donald's should take over health care. physicians can open up franchise doctor's offices where you can get a mc vaccine.
ha ha ha

-subfab

Originally posted by redsand514

Originally posted by OnTheFelt

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
I stopped reading when you said that we need more bipartisan support

you want change, get out of the facade of a two-party system
"oh should we screw our nation this way or that way" party!

Good luck in life bro!

QUOTED FOR TRUTH!

agreed! theres no such thing, he originally said he wants bipartisan support but he doesn't need it in the end. he definitely lied when he said he won't sign something that doesnt increase our deficit, but if i remember correctly the congressional budget office said it will. in the end its people talking out of both sides of their mouth and in regards to outburst, if i remember correctly in the bill it does say you need to be an american, but it doesnt require a background check or "proof" of identity. i put proof in quotes because anyone can get USA identification in echo park in los angeles, and who knows someone can be using my social security number right now

Are you guys talking public option?

For one it would not be optional to anyone in the public, one would have to work for a company that does not offer health insurance to even qualify. As part of legal hiring practices a person would need to have SSN and a valid drivers license to even acquire legal employment. An individual signing up for the option would then have the money
directly taken out of pay checks which would go towards such coverage. As part of this,
employers who knowingly participate in hiring a person who falsifies record would, with the "options" activation, face very heavy penalties as a deterrent. This insures participants are in fact paying taxes based upon the documents they provide for legal employment.

So yes if you are working illegally you cannot access the system unless your are paying taxes and therefore legally employed by definition. A undocumented cook in the back could not pay into the system to receive benefits unless he has an SSN that is registered with the employer and that SSN is not in use else where.

It can hardly even be called a public option, more like public option**

if only Obama would have taken off a shoe, and thrown it at that guy

geez... come on americans wake up !! these yahoo republicans didnt get there with no votes.. sigh...

This was a good one, but I don't think we've seen anything yet!!

A Black Man in The Whitehouse has already made Major History!!

reply to post by EsSeeEye

Originally posted by EsSeeEye
reply to post by whatukno

 

Apparently it's working well enough. The democrats wouldn't need a single republican vote to get anything done if they were actually unified. Why are they getting any attention paid to them at all?

Good point, but the way I see it is the democrats have minor disagreements and will eventually work out those differences and the heath care bill will be better than what we've seen. The problem is the republicans are creating distractions and getting all the attention from the media which then unnecessarily brings up doubt in the public eye. It is nothing more than a distraction, but an effective one.

In other words, no matter what it is still the republicans fault.

If you can clap and cheer you should also be able to boo and yell liar . Espically since most of America feels that way. Just as long as it is not swear/slang words , they are adults and should be mature enough to handle it.

To add to Hal's answer, no matter how much I would love to see Obama take this and the Democrats and run with it (because I am convinced the Republicans will disagree with an Obama bill even if he included everything they want), he is truly dedicated to gaining some sort of bipartisan bill. He doesn't JUST want health care reform, he wants BIPARTISAN health care reform. He wants the victory of not just reforming health care, but doing so with the support of both parties. This is what he wants in his legacy. And I believe he is willing to give up some of what he wants to insure that we end up with a bill that has the support of Democrats and Republicans alike. At least SOME Republicans. Not 2. It's just not good enough to be judged as bipartisan.

He's a stubborn and committed man. And I think he'd even be willing to trade some of the more liberal Democrats' votes for some moderate Republican votes. I actually think that's what we going to see in the end. He wants to be remembered for bringing the parties together.

To those who have been listening to him all along - really listening - this is clear.

Do they always stand up and clap for minutes whenever the person that is speaking finishes a sentence?

I know the UK parliament can get a bit weird, but I found it made his speech annoying to watch..

reply to post by Highground


That line of logic is specious at best. Intellectually dishonest at worst, and I'm sorry to say, ridiculous on it's very face. He lied but I'm not calling him a liar, just saying he lies?
Really? You serious with that?

ATS has really gone the way of WND, and that's sad because it's following the country at large. Serious thought is now a vice that only evil, M'urka hating liberals indulge in.

Originally posted by Angus123
reply to post by Highground

 

That line of logic is specious at best. Intellectually dishonest at worst, and I'm sorry to say, ridiculous on it's very face. He lied but I'm not calling him a liar, just saying he lies?
Really? You serious with that?

ATS has really gone the way of WND, and that's sad because it's following the country at large. Serious thought is now a vice that only evil, M'urka hating liberals indulge in.

Obama/Robert Gibbs didn't think so, when they said the "police officer acted stupidly, not the police officer was stupid."

Originally posted by Highground

Originally posted by Angus123
reply to post by Highground

 

That line of logic is specious at best. Intellectually dishonest at worst, and I'm sorry to say, ridiculous on it's very face. He lied but I'm not calling him a liar, just saying he lies?
Really? You serious with that?

ATS has really gone the way of WND, and that's sad because it's following the country at large. Serious thought is now a vice that only evil, M'urka hating liberals indulge in.

Obama/Robert Gibbs didn't think so, when they said the "police officer acted stupidly, not the police officer was stupid."

So... you're saying Obama acts like a liar but he isn't one?
Stop while you're ahead.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

I agree, Obama is trying to get at least a couple republicans on board and may have succeeded by adding malpractice reform to the bill. Did you see the response when he mentioned that in his speech? That was the only time when republicans stood up and democrats didn't. I think adding malpractice reform is an excellent compromise, but will add more complexity to the bill.

[edit on 9/11/2009 by Hal9000]