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Originally posted by pieman
the difference between this and locking someone up for months for having a joint is what, exactly?
both are cruel and unusual punishments for crimes that are based in fear and prejudice.
Originally posted by pieman the difference between this and locking someone up for months for having a joint is what, exactly? both are cruel and unusual punishments for crimes that are based in fear and prejudice.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to post by Oatmeal
Oh ya, i'd take the canning too any day
This malaysian model will be canned and then immediately be able to return to her family.
Perhaps our country can learn a few things from Malaysia
I know this will seem backwards to some, but......
I'd rather be canned than lose a few years or even a few months of my life.
Well with it being done in public, she now has the ability to bring a negative light on Malaysia. I can't believe you are arguing for canning... A brutal, primitive, form of punishment.
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
I can't believe you are arguing for canning... A brutal, primitive, form of punishment.
Originally posted by pieman
caning shocks us because we're not desensitised, we don't see where the justice is in it. we're desensitised to incarceration
this woman thinks that the lashes are right, it's a fair punishment. we, on the outside, see the madness of it but fail to see the madness of our own system. i never thought about it in these terms before today, i'm glad i saw this story.
'I want to respect the law,' Kartika said.
'Who am I to question the Islamic authorities' laws? That is beyond me.'
'I want to respect the law,' Kartika said. 'Who am I to question the Islamic authorities' laws? That is beyond me.'
i assumed from what she said that she thinks it's right but she might want to show the injustice of it and the mail is spinning it.
But Miss Shukarno has even asked for the caning to be carried out in public to send a clear message to Muslims that they should shun alcohol.
"They say they are gentlemen who want to uphold values. Then the public should judge how gentlemanly it is," he said.
makes you wonder, doesn't it. having read them all i haven't a clue how she feels.
Originally posted by pieman
reply to post by Oatmeal
now you've said it i went back and re-read all the stories, in the first place i just read the daily mail story but having read all of them, there's a nice little spin being put on the stories.
the mail story says
But Miss Shukarno has even asked for the caning to be carried out in public to send a clear message to Muslims that they should shun alcohol.
the newser story says
"They say they are gentlemen who want to uphold values. Then the public should judge how gentlemanly it is," he said.
makes you wonder, doesn't it. having read them all i haven't a clue how she feels.