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Originally posted by rightuos
I had my car sniffed by stupid dog's since 1993.
Originally posted by rightuos
reply to post by anonamousantichrist
nothing was sidestepped...
again search by sniff (k-9) is exempt from the 4th amendment... if you have a problem with that take it up with the Supreme Court.
Originally posted by rightuos
reply to post by anonamousantichrist
surprised? wasn't expecting it. Your still on a 300 year old argument so ... we will move beyond you, know worries most of America has already... good luck on that (giggles)
Originally posted by 27jd
First, I would like to say that I do not wish this thread to be a discussion about drug use, and will not post any details as not to violate the T & C.
Today, I was on my way back to Phoenix (where I was born a citizen), after a very nice little vacation in San Diego CA. I've made this trip several times in the past, and have of course encountered encountered U.S. Border Patrol checkpoints on every trip. They always just waved you through, and if they had questions about your citizenship they verified and sent you on your way. That's the job they are meant to do. But that has recently changed, in Yuma county AZ.
The U.S Border Patrol checkpoint there, now has trained sniffing dogs that they run up and down EVERY vehicle traveling on Interstate 8 east of Yuma, intentionally to search for small amounts of drugs being carried on board the vehicles of American citizens on their way back from California. If the dog signals on your car as it passes, you are taken aside and your vehicle is ransacked, until they find what it is they are looking for. Then you are arrested, taken into a little trailer and given a misdemeanor ticket, then sent on your way, they don't check if your under the influence or anything, apparently they aren't concerned with safety. In ANY other circumstance other than Yuma county, the Border Patrol has no jurisdiction over citizens, but there they are given special powers that are unconstitutional and they perform illegal searches and siezures all day against US citizens that have done NOTHING to warrant having a drug dog run around their car, just returning from vacation. The way the law works is you have to do something wrong to get pulled over BEFORE you get searched. This is just a money making scam, but the implications against our rights can't be ignored.
Needless to say I am pissed, and I feel extremely insulted as an American citizen to have been arrested by the Border Patrol, and more insulted that the AZ government is allowing and encouraging this to happen to it's citizens just so they make more money in fines. I used to think AZ would stand up to the feds, but our government is on bed with them. I will definitely be looking into a lawyer, I'm not going to just pay my fine and take this injustice. I'm also going to be moving to California as soon as I can make it happen. I've had enough of this police state, it just gets worse and worse. I love the gun laws here, but the rest is not for me.
Here's an article I found when searching about the legality of this checkpoint...
The notion of a checkpoint where police can pull over every single vehicle and search it chills many Americans. Justice Clarence Thomas, no beacon of liberal thought, made that clear in his dissenting opinion in the 2000 case. Though Thomas felt compelled to side with the Indianapolis police because of court precedents, he challenged the basis of the precedents strongly.
"I am not convinced that Sitz and Martinez-Fuerte were correctly decided," Thomas wrote. "Indeed, I rather doubt that the framers of the Fourth Amendment would have considered 'reasonable' a program of indiscriminate stops of individuals not suspected of wrongdoing."
The new agreement with Yuma County blurs the distinction between drug and immigration checkpoints.
The Yuma County Sheriff's Office, like all other law enforcement agencies in the country, cannot legally operate a K9 checkpoint. But in Yuma County, Border Patrol agents are deputized to write local-jurisdiction citations — an end run around long-standing constitutional protections against stopping motorists without probable cause.
www.phoenixnewtimes.com...
More and more of our rights, constitutional and human, are taken from us EVERY day.
[edit on 4-8-2009 by 27jd]