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All About the Solar Eclipse July 22nd – The Science / Track / Effects / Myths / Current Conspiracy

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posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 10:10 AM
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Asia and the Pacific Ocean is about to have the longest Solar Eclipse of the 21st Century – I have put together the track – durations – Best viewing sites, along with the science – ancient myths/folk lore. Besides that I also put together what can be effected by it, but of course what would all the information be without throwing in a Little Conspiracy thought and question regarding the Eclipse. Ahhh… you are thinking – what Conspiracy could possibly be involved with an Eclipse? We will get to that later. First lets look at where and how long including the best track of the Solar Eclipse.

Oh - this is also going to be a Super Moon involved - which makes water and magma be squeezed more - High Tides are definitely expected with this eclipse.

There will be lots of links to go along with this thread. I will post the links with the various information gotten from each link.

From link: solareclipse2009.co.cc...


The July 22, 2009 Total Solar Eclipse in China is the longest total solar eclipse in our lifetime, and the second longest in recorded history, next only to the June 20, 1955 eclipse in Manila.
Totality will last 5 min 8.6 sec in Shanghai and 5 min 27.8 sec in Wuhan. In 1955 totality was 6 min 1.0 sec in Manila and 7 min 6.3 sec in San Pablo, Laguna. The 2009 eclipse will not be surpassed in duration until June 13, 2132.


Here is the animation of the eclipse and where it will be happening on the Earth.

From link: previous link and en.wikipedia.org...

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The solar eclipse that will take place on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 will be a total eclipse of the Sun with a magnitude of 1.080 that will be visible from a narrow corridor through northern India, eastern Nepal, northern Bangladesh, Bhutan, the northern tip of Myanmar, central China and the Pacific Ocean, including the Ryukyu Islands, Marshall Islands and Kiribati. Totality will be visible in many large cities, including Surat, Vadodara, Bhopal, Varanasi, Patna, Dinajpur, Chengdu, Chongqing, Wuhan, Hefei, Hangzhou and Shanghai, as well as over the Three Gorges Dam. A partial eclipse will be seen from the much broader path of the Moon's penumbra, including most of South East Asia (all of China and India) and north-eastern Oceania. The eclipse is part of series 136 in the Saros cycle, similar to record setting Solar eclipse of July 11, 1991.In India Best Location to Watch the Celestial event will be Aryabhatta Study Place Taregana,Bihar [[1]]

This solar eclipse is the longest total solar eclipse that will occur in the twenty-first century, and will not be surpassed in duration until June 13, 2132. Totality will last for up to 6 minutes and 39 seconds, with the maximum eclipse occurring in the ocean at 02:35:21 UTC about 100 km south of the Bonin Islands, southeast of Japan. The North Iwo Jima island is the landmass with totality time closest to maximum.


Above you will find I have put in BOLD the Three Gorges Dam – why? Well I have been compiling information on that dam – and believe it or not – that dam – Deserves it’s own thread. I plan on putting that information together – in a thread such as this. But – keep Your Eye on THAT Dam!


About a solar eclipse: from link: faculty.salisbury.edu...


SOLAR ECLIPSE

A solar eclipse occurs when the Moon lies between the Sun and Earth, casting its shadow on our planet. Depending on the location of the observer on the Earth’s surface, the observer may see a total solar eclipse, a partial solar eclipse or none at all. If the observer is lucky enough to be located in a position where the moon’s umbra contacts the Earth they will witness a total solar eclipse of the sun. For those in the penumbra of the moon they will witness only a partial solar eclipse. Those outside the locations where the moon’s shadow reaches will witness no eclipse at all. The location on the Earth the observer is located is very important to exactly what kind of eclipse is observed.

Figure 8: During a solar eclipse the moon wanders between the Earth and Sun. A total eclipse occurs for observers on the Earth that fall in the umbra of the moon (if it reaches the Earth's surface). Observers in the penumbra experience a partial eclipse. Observers outside the moon’s shadow do not witness an eclipse.

What does the phase of the Moon need to be? "NEW MOON"

There are, in fact, a few types of solar eclipse.


What people can expect to see – if they are in a location to view the eclipse

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Here is the Path of the eclipse:

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A closer look at the path – locations and times:

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Caption from above image –

Fig. 1. Total Eclipse of 2009 July 22. Path of totality begins in eastern India and ends over 2,000 mi south of Hawaii. Greatest eclipse duration is 6m39s, longest of the 21st Century but is still nearly 6m in eastern China. Curved lines adjacent to path of total eclipse show regions of decreasing partial eclipse with eclipse magnitudes from 80% to 0%. Click diagram to enlarge. (Cred. Diagram adapted from Fred Espenak, NASA's GSFC.)



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Most pictures above are from link – along with below external text: www.hermit.org...


The total solar eclipse of July 22 2009 will be visible across south-east Asia and the western Pacific. This will be a spectacular total eclipse, lasting over 6½ minutes at maximum and visible to millions of people over a path up to 258 km wide.

The total eclipse begins just off the coast of India at 00:51:17 UT on July 22, and ends in Polynesia at 04:19:26 UT on July 22. The maximum eclipse is at 02:35:21 UT on July 22, when the total phase will last a stunning 6 minutes and 39 seconds. The partial eclipse will be visible over south-east Asia, Malaysia, Indonesia and the Pacific between 23:58:19 UT on July 21 and 05:12:25 UT on July 22.


The Bonin Islands will get the longest duration of the solar eclipse.


The Bonin Islands are the next to see the eclipse at around 02:28 UT, just before the maximum eclipse. The path width is 258 km, and the total eclipse lasts 6 minutes and 39 seconds on the centreline.



How will some of the planets of our solar system be situated during the solar eclipse?

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So, now we see where the solar eclipse is going to happen – with the best viewing spot being in the Pacific Ocean and the duration. Bet you are wondering when the conspiracy part of this comes in… well, not yet.




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posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 10:10 AM
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Lets see what a solar eclipse can affect – from looking at past – that astronomers have found

From link: www.astronomynotes.com...


Tides Slow Earth Rotation

As the Earth rotates beneath the tidal bulges, it attempts to drag the bulges along with it. A large amount of friction is produced which slows down the Earth's spin. The day has been getting longer and longer by about 0.0016 seconds each century.

Over the course of time this friction can have a noticeable effect. Astronomers trying to compare ancient solar eclipse records with their predictions found that they were off by a significant amount. But when they took the slowing down of the Earth's rotation into account, their predictions agreed with the solar eclipse records. Also, growth rings in ancient corals about 400 hundred million years old show that the day was only 22 hours long so that there were over 400 days in a year. In July 1996 a research study reported evidence, from several sedimentary rock records providing an indicator of tidal periods, that the day was only 18 hours long 900 million years ago.


Eventually the Earth's rotation will slow down to where it keeps only one face toward the Moon. Gravity acts both ways so the Earth has been creating tidal bulges on the Moon and has slowed it's rotation down so much that it rotates once every orbital period. The Moon keeps one face always toward the Earth.

Here is a list of references about the evidence for the slowing down of the Earth's rotation:

1. Growth Rhythms and the History of the Earth's rotation, edited by G.D. Rosenberg and S.K. Runcorn (Wiley: New York, 1975). An excellent source on the eclipse records and the biology of coral and their use as chronometers.

2. Tidal Friction and the Earth's Rotation, edited by P. Brosche and J. Sündermann (Springer Verlag, 1978). The second volume put out in 1982 does not talk about eclipse records or the use of coral but, instead, goes into the astrophysics of the Earth-Moon dynamics and geophysics of internal Earth processes effects on the Earth's rotation.

3. Earth's Rotation from Eons to Days, edited by P. Brosche and J. Sündermann (Springer Verlag, 1990). Has several articles about the use of ancient Chinese observations.

4. Richard Monastersky 1994, Ancient tidal fossils unlock lunar secrets in Science News vol. 146, no. 11, p. 165 of the 10 Sept 1994 issue.

5. C. P. Sonett, E. P. Kvale, A. Zakharian, Marjorie A. Chan, T. M. Demko 1996, Late Proterozoic and Paleozoic Tides, Retreat of the Moon, and Rotation of the Earth in Science vol 273, no. 5271, p. 100 of the 05 July 1996 issue.


NOW – what kind of Effects can happen from a solar eclipse? – Let’s look

Below From link: www.eclipse2006.boun.edu.tr...


X. S. Yang†
Faculty of Engineering, University of Wales Swansea, Singleton Park, Swansea SA2 8PP, United Kingdom

~Received 30 July 2002; published 27 January 2003!

Gravitational and other anomalies seen repeatedly in connection with solar eclipses have led to speculation about a possible gravitational shielding effect as the cause. Here we show that an unusual phenomenon that occurs only during solar eclipses, rapid air mass movement for the bulk of the atmosphere above normal cloud levels,appears to be a sufficient explanation for both the magnitude and behavior of the anomaly previously reported in these pages.
DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevD.67.022002




A very accurate Foucault-type pendulum slightly increases its period of oscillation and/or changes its plane of swing ~by up to 13.5o) at sites experiencing a partial eclipse of the Sun, as compared with any other time. This effect was first noticed by Allais over 40 years ago @1#, and both it and related phenomena are now named after him. Some such effect has been seen at several eclipses since then, but also not seen at other eclipses. In recent years, an anomalous
eclipse effect on gravimeters has become well-established even under controlled environmental conditions ~especially pressure!



Why does an eclipse affect the atmosphere? I am shortening the explanation in the link provided above – because it gets VERY technical – with all kinds of physics explanations.



we see that air mass flow during eclipses might have the right qualitative behavior to explain
the observed Allais gravity anomaly because it occurs mainly near the periphery of the eclipse zone and is in the right direction. The following question now arises: Can an excess air mass of order 1.8% during eclipses be enough to produce a gravitational force of the observed agnitude? Simple reasoning suggests that the cooler air inside the eclipse zone will decrease in volume ~increasing in density! in accord with Boyle’s law as its temperature drops, creating
a ‘‘low’’ pressure region with the unusual character that it would extend to great altitudes. This leaves room for warmer air from outside the eclipse zone on all sides of the advancing
shadow of the Moon to flow rapidly into the eclipse zone and fill the volume emptied by the cooler, denser air there.
This is what happens on a smaller scale across meteorological fronts. When ‘‘highs’’ and ‘‘lows’’ collide, winds are created that attempt to equalize those discordant pressures. Note
that for eclipses, the redistribution of air mass would affect broad areas well outside the eclipse zone through this process because those areas are the reservoir from which the
extra air mass would be drawn. If the shadow were static or slowly moving, air would
flow deep into the eclipse zone until pressures equalized again for the higher density of air mass present. The greatest density would be found in the center of the shadow where
the eclipse is total. However, reality is far from a static situation. The speed of sound is 330 m/s at sea level, and normally changes little with altitude. But the speed of the Moon relative to the Earth averages close to 1000 m/s. The shadow moves at the same speed as the Moon when projected perpendicular to the surface, or faster when projected obliquely. The result is that warmer air from outside the eclipse zone is continually trying to rush toward the cooler regions just inside the shadow, increasing the total mass of air over the ground below. But that air never gets a chance to penetrate very deeply before the shadow has rushed onward, carrying the high-altitude ‘‘front’’ with it faster than air can travel. Hence, the ground barometric pressure is seen to rise during the eclipse, but the amount will be a complex function of the eclipse geometry. Of course, the shadow cools a much larger volume of air than can be above the observer’s horizon. So the production of gravity anomalies at the observer will be dependent on what the upper atmosphere is doing locally as the shadow approaches, covers, and recedes.



There is a great chart on the site showing the gravity acceleration during a solar eclipse – try as I did – I was not able to snap shot it here.

There is LOTS more – very complex information from the site, but the long and short of it is the whole Earth is Actually affected by a Solar Eclipse. With this being the longest eclipse of the 21st century – we could possibly see some very Strong affects from it.

Now – we have seen where it will be and a solar eclipse DOES affect the Whole Earth.


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posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 10:11 AM
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Lets for the fun of it, look at the folk lore and myths concerning Solar Eclipses along with Ancient Eclipses. BTW: the first link and info – someone obviously inserted the “first solar eclipse recorded” date wrong – they should have ADDED “BC” to the date of 2134.

From link: ancienthistory.about.com...


"Nothing there is beyond hope, nothing that can be sworn impossible, nothing wonderful, since Zeus, father of the Olympians, made night from mid-day, hiding the light of the shining Sun, and sore fear came upon men."

Archilochus

We may know there's a scientific explanation for them, but solar eclipses continue to exert an almost magical power over us. It's not at all clear we've decreased in gullibility since the days when Columbus used his fore-knowledge of an eclipse to hoodwink the Jamaicans. And even though we know better, during each total solar eclipse, there will be people blinded by the too tempting sight of an eclipsed sun.

The Eclipse Dragon

On the other hand, we don't beat drums, fire arrows into the sky, and stand up to our necks in water in an effort to appease the gods as did the ancient Chinese and Indians. Both the Chinese and the Indians thought a snake attacked the sun during an eclipse. Noise making was an effort to scare the creature away. The earliest recorded eclipse was in China on October 22, 2134. Then two court astrologers lost their heads because, since they had failed to predict it, the emperor had been caught unprepared to make the necessary dragon-scaring noise. Almost a millennium later, in the fourteenth century B.C., an eclipse was described by a Chinese seer as three flames eating the sun.

Eclipse Omens

Eclipses have been seen as evil omens whose presence changed the course of battle. In the eclipse of 585 B.C. -- the one Thales is said to have predicted -- five years of fighting ended between the Medes and Lydians as a result of an eclipse. In 413, the frightened Athenians suddenly abandoned their plan to move from Syracuse when a lunar eclipse appeared. The result was a rout by the Syracusans.
Harmless Eclipses

Eclipses may not have been universally feared. The people who built Stonehenge may have derived a sense of control from performing calculations of solar eclipses. Oddly, there is nothing in Egyptian literature about eclipses, although there is speculation that some of the symbols may be ecliptically based.

Scientific Understanding of Eclipses

The Babylonians were the first to calculate the regular intervals at which eclipses occur. It was through contact with the East that Thales of Miletus was able to make the prediction that marked the beginning of the Greek scientific/philosophic era. While there is some doubt as to whether Thales accurately predicted the eclipse attributed to him -- because he didn't fully understand all the cycles necessary to calculate the date and because Herodotus' reporting leaves room for doubt -- he is credited with predicting the May 25, 585 B.C. eclipse.

From www.csudh.edu... greekphil/greek01.htm:

History Of Philosophy In The Classical Period (600 B.C.-600 A.D.)

Thales predicted a total solar eclipse which was visible in Asia Minor in the midst of the battle between Media and Lydia. Herodotus mentioned in his Historia, Book 1, 74: "Suddenly a total solar eclipse took place in the midst of the battle between Lydia and Media. Thales of Miletus had predicted that that solar eclipse would occur at that time and at that place."

Today we can calculate the dates of the total solar eclipses which could be seen in Asia Minor where that battle took place: September 30, 610, June 21, 597 and May 28, 585. In his Natural History, Pliny says of Thales: " ...it was the fourth year during the 48th panathenaia." Since the first Olympic Games took place in 776, the 48th Olympic Games took place approximately 588 B.C. -- in other words, the May 29th, 585 date.


Some history and relationship to bible passages of solar eclipses:

Link: ancienthistory.about.com



The date of an eclipse referred to in the Bible is known for certain: "`And on that day,' says the Lord God, `I will make the Sun go down at noon, and darken the Earth in broad daylight'." (Amos 8:9) "That day" was June 15, 763 B.C. The date of this eclipse is confirmed by an Assyrian historical record known as the Eponym Canon. In Assyria, each year was named after a different ruling official and the year's events were recorded under that name in the Canon. Under the year corresponding to 763 B. C., a scribe at Nineveh recorded this eclipse and emphasized the importance of the event by drawing a line across the tablet. These ancient records have allowed historians to use eclipse data to improve the chronology of early Biblical times.

This has been identified as a description of the total solar eclipse of April 6, 648 B.C. Another eclipse reference (from the Bible) goes like this:
And I behold when he had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake; and the Sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the Moon became as blood. -- Revelation 6:12

This compelling passage is only one of a number of literary and historical connections between eclipses and earthquakes. The Greek historian Thucydides, in writing about the Peloponnesian War, remarked about "earthquakes and eclipses of the Sun which came to pass more frequently than had been remembered in former times." On another occasion he noted "... there was an eclipse of the Sun at the time of a new Moon, and in the early part of the same month an earthquake." Another Greek writer, Phlegon, reported the following events:

In the fourth year of the 202nd Olympiad, there was an eclipse of the Sun which was greater than any known before and in the sixth hour of the day it became night; so that stars appeared in the heaven; and a great earthquake that broke out in Bithynia destroyed the greatest part of Nicaea.

This interest in linking the two types of events by coincidence may have been attempts to derive some order out of the unpredictability of earthquakes, possibly a carryover from the celestial omens of the Babylonians. Oddly enough, this type of coincidence seems to persist. The earthquake in Iran on September 16, 1978, the most devastating one of that year and which killed more that 25,000 people, occurred just 3-1/2 hours before a total lunar eclipse was visible there.


OH – I know what you are thinking now….. there she goes again – with Earthquakes.
Yes, there have been connections before with solar eclipses and Earthquakes – that is just part of history. Which is being laid out along with many other aspects of a Solar Eclipse.


More on Myths from link: ancienthistory.about.com/


Eclipse Myths and Symbolism

The people of many cultures from all parts of the globe have developed various myths and legends about eclipses. Many believe that an eclipse is an omen of some natural disaster or the death or downfall of a ruler.

Another pervasive myth involves an invisible dragon or other demon who devours the Sun during an eclipse. Many cultures have also developed superstitions about how to counteract the effects of an eclipse. The Chinese would produce great noise and commotion (drumming, banging on pans, shooting arrows into the sky, and the like) to frighten away the dragon and restore daylight. In India people may immerse themselves in water up to their necks, believing this act of worship will help the Sun and Moon defend themselves against the dragon. In Japan, the custom is to cover wells during an eclipse to prevent poison from dropping into them from the darkened sky. And as recently as the last century, the Chinese Imperial Navy fired its ceremonial guns during an eclipse to scare off the invisible dragon.

This ominous view of eclipses is not the only one. In Tahiti, for example, eclipses have been interpreted as the lovemaking of the Sun and the Moon. Even to this day, the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Tlingits of Arctic America believe an eclipse shows a divine providence: the Sun and the Moon temporarily leave their places in the sky and check to see that things are going all right on Earth. But regardless of the meaning given to them, eclipses will continue to occur, always obeying the regular timetables of celestial motions.



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posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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Okay – there is Much more about Solar Eclipses and the Effects on the Earth and the Myths of Eclipses. But if you are even still reading what has become a very long OP thread and taking a lot longer than I had expected to put together – I DID promise a “little” conspiracy thrown in. And – Jeez – what would one of my threads be WITHOUT a Conspiracy?


Awhile back – in knowing about this Eclipse coming up (btw: next July 2010 there will be another solar eclipse – will it be then instead of now?) I immediately thought of TWO things.

One – being Nostradamus’s quatrain about “The King of Terror” being seen during an eclipse.

Link: nostradamiana.astrologer.ru...



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When the eclipse of the Sun will then be,
The monster will be seen in full day:
Quite otherwise will one interpret it,
High price unguarded: none will have foreseen it.


The other thing was then – Nibiru

Is it possible there really is a planet named Nibiru in our solar system? If so – then during this solar eclipse will it be possible for people to see it? I know personally – I would LOVE to be able to be at a place to watch the eclipse – if not just to SEE if there is anything else, very bright by the sun – besides watching the eclipse itself.

Now – something of High Importance, I plan on putting all my information together about the Three Gorges Dam in China in a separate thread (unless someone gets to it before me). It is the Largest Dam in the World along with the most controversy – danger – and how it Affects the Whole Earth! But besides that – it has had problems along with Chinese engineers not happy about it – including cracks that are happening right now. Mind you – it is just getting completed – has been being built since 1994. I will explain the whole history, complications, controversy, how it affects the whole Earth, concerns, along with other “esoteric” thoughts from others. The reason why – knowing that a Solar Eclipse does affect the Earth – gravitational pull – and it will be going across the Three Gorges Dam….to me, it is a good idea, to be informed on all levels – regarding implications and possibilities of things happening, especially since something may not be as well built as it needs to be. I have started on it – but it will still take a few hours more.


I have found it interesting, myself, learning there is actually so much More to a Solar Eclipse – then the moon passing in front of the Earth. Until I researched it, I did not know all the implications it had on the Earth.



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posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 10:23 AM
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What a great thread!! Wish I was able to see it! I am in FL and I wont see a thing. I remember one when I was in Kindergarten because we made these little boxes to look at the eclipse with and that was over 20 years ago.



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 11:11 AM
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I know, if I was able to - I would get to the Bonin Island area to watch it, since that is where it will be the longest.

I will look forward to seeing videos of it.

Also - is there ANYONE here on ATS - that will be in the area of the solar eclipse? If so, are you able to get a good video etc. of it?



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 11:15 AM
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Lets for the fun of it, look at the folk lore and myths concerning Solar Eclipses...


Lot of work went into this thread, no doubt. But that line, above, pretty well sums up the "mystery" of Solar eclipses. "...lore and myths..."

I've been alive long enough that ther have occured many Total Eclipses...unfortunately it never worked out forme to travel to one, but I did experience the Partial Eclipse from Hawai'i in 1994. As a child, in Southern California, also another partial...big news then, and every time, is the warnings NOT to look at the Sun (amazing that they have to warn people!!!)

Your studies into the tidal effects that the Moon exerts (and that, in turn, the Earth exerts back at the Moon) are worthy for their information, as they help to explain the science quite well. Thing is, though...a Total Solar Eclipse has no different effect in that area. The Moon's orbit doesn't change, it's just the coincidence of its shadow hitting the Earth.


The interesting point is a possible temporary weather anomaly effect....simply because of the blocking of the sunlight. BUT, a thick widespread layer of coluds would do that too, no?

Of course, the speed of the 'footprint' of the shadow, that is the major difference from normal cloud cover effects. However, as noted in your animation and graphs, the width of the actual shadow that strikes the Earth is a fraction of the actual width of the Moon....because of the distance. Also, the actual length of "Totality" is rather short, for any given spot on the Earth's surface. Matter of mnutes, only.

For the ancients, of course, who had no idea of the relationships of the Earth/Moon/Sun and their actual physical positions in space, these events must have been terrifying....just as thunder was terrifying too.

Fortunately, science reigns (usually) today. The real excitement is the chance to see the Sun's corona and study it, with the naturally occurring help of the Moon!



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 12:16 PM
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There is a Lot more science about Solar Eclipse affects on the Earth in the one link - it involves all kinds of math -(which completely loses me) - the article explains the phsyics behind what the Solar Eclipse does to the Earth.

Regarding the Folklore of Solar Eclipses inserted in the thread - I wanted to do a Complete type thread on Solar Eclipses, encompassing all aspects of it. How ancient civilzation looked at them, including what people thought they meant at that time. So it gives everyone a whole aspect of the solar eclipses - and adds more interesting aspects of them.



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 12:34 PM
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Very interesting thread! i never knew the impact an eclipse could have. Also did you notice that the eclipse goes right through The Dragon's Triangle? I'm thinking that would be the spot to watch for anomalies. Flagged! way to do your homework.



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 01:06 PM
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More links on the eclipse

this one - for best places - in making arrangements - if you are able and inclined to do so
www.dailymail.co.uk...

From NASA - their official eclipse site
eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov...

Kids Preparing for it in China (to watch)

news.xinhuanet.com...

From this Astronomy site - it has good information along with the animation below- of what it will be like from Shanghai, China

www.astronomy.com...

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posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 03:09 PM
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I will now admit my former ignorance on this subject & say WOW!! Kudos for the hard work and the very interesting way you put it to capture our attention and chalenge our minds. You even add tidbits for another meal or two to come.



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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Thank you, I have been working on the other thread - there is a ton of information with that one, I have been going through and trying to put together so people understand what the implications can be - with this coming Eclipse in a few days - due to how Solar Eclipses affect the Earth and tides, with gravitational pull.



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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WIll the eclipse be able to be seen from America? just curious.
I got court on the 22nd, I think the eclipse is a bad omen.


 
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posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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Great thread. Well put together. Star & Flag for you.

Curious, when I sit on my deck to watch the sun go down and a cloud passes overhead, it is always accompanied by a small breeze.

Thinking of that on a Solar Eclipse level, are we to assume that the eclipse brings a strong wide path breeze along with it?



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 06:08 PM
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Sorry, I have to laugh over your question. I guess I did not do a good enough job in the OP - because I had put maps in it - with the information of where the eclipse will be able to be seen. I guess I did not make that clear.

But to answer your question, it will only be able to be seen from India - through China and then into the Pacific.



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 08:17 PM
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good stuff S+F!

one thing to notice is that the Total Eclipse of July 11 2010 will pass directly over Easter Island of all places.

there was an eclipse when Christ was crucified as well.

another one to look out for is the Longest Annular Eclipse of the 21st Century on Jan 15th 2010.
An Annular eclipse is when the moon is closer to the earth, thereby not completely eclipsing.. but forming a 'ring' effect as the sun can be seen around the moon's border.
this one will uniquely be exactly 333km away from the earth.

in the book soon to be movie "World War Z - The Zombie War" .. the 'Zombie disease' outbreak begins at Three Gorges Dam in China... find out how Zombies can be linked to this Unique Eclipse by

clicking on the 'Chronoclysm' link on my post's signature and watch a film all about how certain things tie into this eclipse.

not to derail. .just adding what I can as I see it's very relative.. thanks for the great work on this post OP!



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posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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is it just me, or does anyone else think it's odd that the size of the shadow over the sun just happens to be the same size as the sun? with millions of miles to the sun, and the moon and earth being the size that they are and the distance away from each other they are, isn't it weird that the relative size of the shadow is just the right size to cover the sun?


...but maybe it is just me...


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posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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The moon blocks out the sun, not its shadow.

Much like putting your hand up against your face to block out the sun, your hand is nowhere near as big as the sun but it blocks it out due to being far closer to your eyes than the sun actually is.

Nice thread QA, I look forward to this Dam thread of yours!



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 09:35 PM
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Very good info...I'm curious if the MSM will air much about it...You've done your homework...Thanks



posted on Jul, 19 2009 @ 09:55 PM
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Thanks, S&F !

Complete information, lots of graphics, all we need to know about it.

I would like to be in Iwojima, but....

again, THANKS!



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