Mystery Deepens Around Execution of Couple Who Raised 16 Kids

Originally posted by ZindoDoone
reply to post by Snisha

 

That's not that unusual. I have two safes one it would take about 10 men to lift or even move.

Yeah, my family has several safes that are similar(weight wise) to what you are describing.

We moved them several years ago and had to use a remarkably large forklift to get them on the flatbed truck that transported them.

In our old office we also had a walk-in 8x16 vault with 3 1/2 ft. thick reinforced concrete walls and a 2ft. thick steel door!

Man, I miss that sucker! Talk about secure!!!



*edit for spelling

[edit on 17-7-2009 by Snisha]

RedNeck Nouvelle Riches?
With fewer and fewer people trusting banks these days, or diversifying to precious metals, gemstones, firearms, ammo, art, practically anything of value that doesn't say; "In God We Trust" on it without specifying any deity by name, with contact information, talents, and tribute expected for "god" services rendered.
This "Deadly Viper Murder Squad" must have had the murders on the agenda as "Pro" home invasion specialists.
Undoubtedly they were or would have been recognised, hence the need for the "Dead Men Tell No Tales" approach to grand theft.
The perps had probably heard rumors of millions of dollars in cash and valuables, or had knowledge of large amounts of drugs at the home of the victims.
The criminals decided they would become a para-military unit, each with a specialty...none very talented at his/her/or it's special purpose.
I wonder if they were hollering "POLICE" as they kicked in the bedroom door?
I wonder how many shots were fired.
Shouldn't have taken but two, but you know how some people are when they have a full clip.
I wonder how many of the bad guys in the house fired?
Did one guy agree to off the man of the house while another did mama in?
I wonder if they got what they went for and C.I.D. isn't quite sure what that might have been, but life will get cheaper as times get tougher.
Some backwoods crooks around there probably set the bar pretty low already.
I know they do here.
I see the names of people in the police report section of our local paper and am shocked at the names I read, and the crimes they decide to try...most, having no prior experience as public enemies, are as dangerous to themselves as they are their target, sometimes they put a bullet in their groins as they attempt the "surprise fast draw", or shoot out their own radiators on the way out of the circle K with their $35.00 and six packs of Marble Row Cigarettes.
Sometimes the clerk "cards em" before handing over the smokes...sometimes ace holdup man shows em his I.D...really.
If you are sitting on a large amount of cash, or other liquid assets, mum's the word, don't open you'r safe to peel a few hundreds off one of yer bundled stacks of cash to pay the lawn mowing guy, the plumber, or who-ever.
Learn to complain about how tight things are these days like everyone else.
Have an inside dog or some outside geese, both will raise an early alarm so that you may greet you'r visitors from cover with a nice 3 inch 12 gauge loaded with number four shot, from you'r pump or (semi)auto shotgun (easily the BEST home defense weapon.)
In the case of these horrifying murders, these victims should have had prior warning by their extensive security system, so the Burglar Alarm Company guy is on my short list of suspects too.
Know this....these trailer park plotters will rat each other out with a quickness, each hoping to be first to turn State's Witness.
I liked the Sheriff's looks on the videos.
He knows he has deep trouble with the shallow end of the local gene pool.
He looks like he knows where the bleach is.
Hope they are in a DEATH PENALTY STATE!!!
Too bad there aren't degrees of administering death, like the needle for the "love triangle" murderer who didn't intend to kill anyone but did.
The rope for the gangsters.
The baseball bat for child molestors and rapists.
The Apache "Death of One Thousand Cuts", or complete skining while the truly deserving remain fully awake, and aware as they are then staked over an anthill, as the children flogg the condemned with willow switches, breaking open veins and rupturing the onionskin left after being filletted.
This is destined to become a twisted tale in a made for TV movie of the week.
Sad and intriguing.



[edit on 17-7-2009 by Luminaught]

[edit on 17-7-2009 by Luminaught]

This story continues to provide more twists and turns than a mountain road.

It turns out that Mr. Billings was no stranger to the law...

To some, the business background of Byrd Billings added fuel to the speculation fire.

He was a used car dealer and owned a finance company. He bankrolled nightclubs and was a partner in at least one adult entertainment club in Pensacola, the Back Seat, which has long been closed.

He and a former girlfriend faced criminal charges when they tried to adopt a baby illegally and ended up sentenced to probation. However, that event was 20 years ago, and Byrd and Melanie Billings later legally adopted that baby, who now is 20 years old.

And several years ago, Billings attempted a bizarre legal scheme that included demands for millions of dollars in silver coins from the Florida Department of Children and Families

pnj.com...


And then it REALLY gets strange....

One unexplained blemish on Billings' past involves a bizarre scheme he started early this decade that aimed to make millions by apparently copyrighting his children's names.

About 2003, he began filing dozens of confusing documents that attempted to copyright his children's names, then demanded millions of dollars for copyright infringements when government agencies used those names.

The documents, obtained from the Escambia County Clerk of Court and the Florida Department of Children and Families, reference "genocide acts," maritime law and "corporate fictions.'' He signed one purported affidavit "Byrd Billings, Agent, Attorney in Fact, With the Autograph, Non-Domestic."

DCF attorney Katie George said every time the agency addressed a letter to Billings that included his children's names, he would reply with an invoice demanding millions of dollars in copyright infringement.

Generally, he demanded silver coins or federal reserve notes of equal value. After nearly two years, Billings began addressing invoices to DCF employees at their homes, and a DCF lawyer sent Billings a sharply worded letter warning him that legal action against him was a possibility.

pnj.com...


I can't begin to imagine what might come out in court when the murder trial(s) commence.

Once again, a strange new addition to this story Fox news is now reporting...

Murder of Florida Couple Could've Been a Contract Hit

www.foxnews.com...

One of the eight suspects charged in the robbery and murder of a Florida couple told authorities he was paid between $20,000 and $50,000 to kill them, The Daily Beast reported.

Two sources with direct knowledge of the situation, and who requested anonymity fearing possible reprisals, told the Web site that Leonard Patrick Gonzalez Jr. informed authorities he was paid to take out a hit on Byrd and Melanie Billings.


........The Escambia County Sheriff's Office wouldn't confirm or deny to The Daily Beast that the murder was a contract killing.

Gonzalez told authorities his team was planning the hit for several months, according to the Web site. He allegedly told investigators that a lot of the planning tool place at Pamela Wiggins' home

www.foxnews.com...

One additional thing to also take note of is that whenever Ashley Markham (the daughter of the Billings) appears before reporters she is ALWAYS accompanied by her lawyer Chrystal Collins-Spencer.

I know that it is not uncommon in and of itself to have legal representation at hand but Spencer is known as being a prominent "criminal defense" lawyer in Pensacola.

Hmmmmmmm.........

Originally posted by Snisha
I know that it is not uncommon in and of itself to have legal representation at hand but Spencer is known as being a prominent "criminal defense" lawyer in Pensacola.

Not an uncommon tactic. Confer with legal counsel (especially prominent criminal defense attorneys) and then by virtue of doing so, you have eliminated that attorney from being a potential defense counsel for the defendant.

Just my 2-cents

Originally posted by Snisha
Once again, a strange new addition to this story Fox news is now reporting...

Murder of Florida Couple Could've Been a Contract Hit

www.foxnews.com...

One of the eight suspects charged in the robbery and murder of a Florida couple told authorities he was paid between $20,000 and $50,000 to kill them, The Daily Beast reported.

Two sources with direct knowledge of the situation, and who requested anonymity fearing possible reprisals, told the Web site that Leonard Patrick Gonzalez Jr. informed authorities he was paid to take out a hit on Byrd and Melanie Billings.


........The Escambia County Sheriff's Office wouldn't confirm or deny to The Daily Beast that the murder was a contract killing.

Gonzalez told authorities his team was planning the hit for several months, according to the Web site. He allegedly told investigators that a lot of the planning tool place at Pamela Wiggins' home

www.foxnews.com...

He told authorities that he was paid between $20 to 50 thousand? What...he couldn't remember how much he was paid?