Mystery Deepens Around Execution of Couple Who Raised 16 Kids

Mystery Deepens Around Execution of Couple Who Raised 16 Kids

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July 16, 2009

PENSACOLA, Fla. (CBS/AP) The mystery deepened Wednesday around the circumstances and motives that led to the execution of a wealthy Fla. couple who raised 16 children, many of them adopted with special needs.

Robbery may not have been the only reason for the military style home invasion that led to the deaths of Melanie and Byrd Billings, according to Escambia County Sheriff David Morgan, but he has refused to speculate on other motives.

The Drug Enforcement Administration has been investigating the case from the beginning. Their interest - possible drugs and money laundering, though officials won't say who they're probing, reports CBS News correspondent Terrell Brown.

Morgan once again denied having knowledge of any federal investigation.

......Morgan said the suspects spent 30 days training for what was a precisely executed break-in, save for the failure to turn off the couple's camera system. Before the crime, the extensive surveillance system was used to monitor the children.


......David Melenkevitz, a spokesman for the DEA, said his agency is assisting with the investigation but would not comment further.

He said Escambia County officials have also sought help from other federal agencies including the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

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It goes without saying that THIS IS ALL SPECULATION AT THIS POINT, but this particular case involving the murder of the Billings seems to be leading up to a spectacular "bombshell" type crescendo does it not?

Sheriff Morgan of Escambia Co. is already alluding to the fact that there shall be info released soon which will "shock" the nation.

It may come to pass that it is shown that this couple was using a deplorable ploy of surrounding themselves with an adopted mass of children, some of them being classified as "special needs kids" to assist in providing a sort of "smoke screen" to the prying eyes of their community.

Using this as a disguise for nefarious underworld activities I believe would indeed qualify as a "shocking" revelation to say in the least!

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July 16, 2009

Morgan speculated that murder may not have been the alleged robbers' original intention, likening the double murder to a drug deal gone bad.

"There was never any mayhem or murder in the intent there" until something went wrong, he said. "It's hard to say unless you're in the psyche of the criminal."

Morgan confirmed reports that the Drug Enforcement Agency was helping in the investigation, but he refused to spell out their role other than to say the DEA was investigating the suspects.



.......officials are also looking into a possible link between the seven-man crew charged with killing the Billings and Mexican drug runners and the notoriously violent gang MS-13, according to federal law enforcement sources.


.....Two of the seven suspects charged with murder, 35-year-old Leonard Gonzalez Jr., and 28-year-old Donnie Ray Stallworth, had military training, police say.

Stallworth worked in the Air Force's elite Special Operations Command with an aircraft maintenance squadron and Gonzalez was a former soldier in the National Guard,The Associated Press reported.

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It is glaringly obvious that the complexity,size and scope of the "hit" performed upon this couple seems incommensurate with what it was that they presented themselves to be within this community.



[edit on 17-7-2009 by Snisha]

I would love to comment.

But i've read the story over and over again, and seen the faces of the murderers, and I almost throw up each time. The sickness in them, everything.

The way they plan such a murder.

The way the media calls it a perfect media, and does everything short of praising them for a job well done.

It's really upsetting.

reply to post by Republican08


I totally agree with your acessment!

This is beyond horrific and it happened not too far from where I live...

Here's my initial assessment, based on what the MSM is pushing currently:

This entire event and investigation has been likened to a "military style operation" from the beginning of it's reporting. That was the first giant red flag for me. Agenda: Further vilify veterans and paramilitary organizations, i.e. Militias. Justifies the DHS Lexicon in the public eye. Notice the focus on the amount of "training" the suspects carried out, as well as the "military precision" that the crime was carried out with. This is all grabbed from media reports, in paraphrase.

Next, of course we're going to involve the use of firearms. This is also by design. The obvious motive for pushing this issue is disarmament. Need I say more? Didn't think so.

If you notice, there was a shootout in Jersey City today in which 5 LEO's were shot. It was billed as a massive firefight... Nice tie in to this story. The police chief of Jersey City conveniently contacted the POTUS and practically begged for Federal intervention... Great timing.

The possible inclusion of drugs as an additional motive for the crime at issue is more of the same old game... Pretty easy to vilify a "drug dealer". That one's too easy, not even going to touch that issue... Should be obvious.

Finally, the children. Think of the children... WHY CAN'T WE ALL THINK OF THE CHILDREN???

Anybody else read that and think of a tearful Sally Strothers?

"The children" seems to be a rally cry for the NWO lately. It tugs at everybody's heart strings. You'd have to be some kind of heathen to not feel for these kids. Especially because the majority of them are "special needs".

This whole thing just stinks to high heaven of false flag op.

Just my opinion, based on my observations.

Main agenda: Control, Disarm the American citizenry (for your own good, and the good of the children), condition the people to think of vets and paramilitary as terrorists and criminals, further fund the "war on drugs", and anything else TPTB can throw into the mix to further their agenda.

reply to post by cbianchi513


You have stated a side of this that I have been mulling over for the past several hours.

The brief time that I have been studying/interacting here on ATS has definitely caused me to at the very least, consider unspoken/unseen motives behind things presented in the MSM.

I attempt to steadfastly maintain objectivity but the more I learn the more questions are raised.

Daily, I strive to further my ability to be self-reliant and stoically vigilant.

Where shall this wild ride lead to...

reply to post by cbianchi513


Very good!

Now, any speculation on the upcoming statements, that could "shock" the nation?

Only thing I could grasp, at this point, would be the mention of 'drugs'. Could this family have some sort of 'Drug/Prescription' vault for the certain children with disabilities? Perhaps one of them has some sort of license that could allow them, not only to administer drugs, but to store certain drugs that would otherwise be over the allowed monthly distribution that is currently allowed to the average joe? Maybe drugs with a high street value?

Edit:

I'm also going to speculate that the eighth person is the Real Estate Agent's husband, thus explaining her involvement in the case. (I do remember the news first saying the eighth suspect and possible person behind the surveillance mishap to be a female. Now, this article says "he". I bet they're looking for this woman's husband.)

From the OPs article:

Police do not believe Long, the eighth arrest, was present at the murder scene but do suspect she may have personal ties to the alleged mastermind of the attack - Leonard Patrick Gonzalez Junior, reports Brown. CBS News obtained a marriage license from December listing Long as the bride, with Gonzalez as a witness. Police are also still seeking at least one more accomplice who they believe failed his assignment to disable the house's surveillance system.

[edit on 17-7-2009 by SourGrapes]

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It just seems like this was quite a complex operation just for the acquisition of some pharmaceutical meds.

Even with that many kids, I find it hard to fathom that there could be a repository of legally prescribed meds that would justify a "shock troop" of that magnitude.

Whereas, if perhaps there was a cache of illicit narcotics or cash gleaned from the trafficking of illicit narcotics, an operation of this type could possibly be justified.

And as a side note this guys residence is in a rural part of northern Escambia Co. so hypothetically speaking the possibility of a manufacturing lab may not be out of the question

Something along those lines could certainly tie in a need for such an elaborate surveillance system.

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Not really sure... I honestly have not been following this particular story lately. I'm still pretty busy mourning the monumental loss of the king of pop, worrying about what Jessica Simpson is going to do without Tony Romo, and totally pissed at Jeremy Mayfield for "holding out" his stash!

In all seriousness... I have really only heard snippets on this story. Who really knows what the FACTS are? Certainly the MSM will selectively report some of them. What I HAVE heard, concerns me... As I think I mentioned in my above post, there is an underlying agenda the state run media has behind nearly every story they publish. The "shocking revelation" to come will likely be something that sheds a positive/negative light to sway public opinion in a convenient direction for TPTB on a specific target issue. The useless eaters can't be trusted to think for themselves, after all...

I think I enumerated my initial assessment as clearly as I can. I am likely missing something that should be glaringly obvious, but like all things, time will tell.


EDIT: After going back, looking at the article and OP again, and attempting to "read between the lies", I'm thinking one of two things:

1. Some type of sweat shop labor/child slavery
2. Kiddie porn

Just throwing that out there. Both would be pretty shocking, and would give the whole Child Protective Services machine sweeping powers, riding on the public's emotional outcry.

Just a thought... Hope I'm wrong, fear I'm not.


[edit on 17/7/09 by cbianchi513]

That is indeed very strange. I wonder if it's because they want to take the kids away for whatever reason. I know CPS is infamous for that.

very sick, strange story, people really suck.

Either something really "smells" in these murders, or this group that did the killing was really lacking in self-confidence and/or greed.

I have no idea what was in the safe, but it had to be significant for so many people to participate.

Or, robbery wasn't the motive.

Either way, to kill these folks in a house-full of kids, these SOB's should be fried, as well as the bimbo Real Estate agent.

And stupid folks wonder why I carry a .45 on me at all times. I may get shot, and I may get killed, but I'm taking someone with me.

Originally posted by dooper


Either way, to kill these folks in a house-full of kids, these SOB's should be fried, as well as the bimbo Real Estate agent.

And stupid folks wonder why I carry a .45 on me at all times. I may get shot, and I may get killed, but I'm taking someone with me.

Brother, I hear you, those kids in no justifiable way deserved to be anywhere around that.

It amazes me that the woman has been released on bail, what the hell is law enforcement in Escambia Co. thinking???

reply to post by Snisha


I'm in Okaloosa County, where about four or five of these "citizens" came from. The fact is, the Sheriff has his hands full and right now among these clowns, it's "let's make a deal."

This woman - the judge sets bail, and if you can meet your bail, you get out.

I reckon we're going to have to wait and see what her deal is.

God, for the old days. Round 'em up, find a tree, bring a rope, and it's all over within minutes.

reply to post by dooper


I think it's a pretty safe bet that the real estate agent isn't a trigger puller, that's why bail was set for her. They made it so she could make bail.

Cut her loose, but rest assured she's got a 24/7 tail... Maybe she'll do what they're hoping, and lead them to the "missing" accomplice.

I saw the footage of her arrest, being put in the car, and she had this sick smirk/smile on her face, and was shaking her head as if to say "I'll beat your stupid charges".

Sick.

This case has me perplexed. I can't imagine why such a big hit squad went out and murdered these two people. I can't fathom why someone would do that . It's so very odd. There either has to be something else going on with the family OR the criminals got the wrong people.

it's just so odd.

reply to post by dooper

Yeah, I'm right down the road in Walton County and I find it amazing that her bail was a mere $10,000!

Originally posted by cbianchi513
reply to post by dooper

 

I think it's a pretty safe bet that the real estate agent isn't a trigger puller, that's why bail was set for her. They made it so she could make bail.

Cut her loose, but rest assured she's got a 24/7 tail... Maybe she'll do what they're hoping, and lead them to the "missing" accomplice.

Perhaps this is a likely scenario playing out, turn her loose and then see if her actions could assist in the apprehending of the missing accomplice(s).

It's revolting to think that one of these scumbags will likely end up "cutting a deal" to achieve a lighter sentence.

One other thing that keeps nagging at me is..Why in hell did they need such a large force for the 'mission'. Two adults in the house and most likely no weapons because of all the children present doesn't sound like a hard target! If these guy's trained for that long and still screwed the pooch I would say that none of them score high on the intelligence scale! All I can say is at least these morons didn't start killing the kids! I'm sure we'll see the tapes of these morons being questioned on the MSM as well as maybe a Bill Kurtis special on stupid crooks!

Zindo

Originally posted by ZindoDoone

One other thing that keeps nagging at me is..Why in hell did they need such a large force for the 'mission'.

One would think that a safe containing such "prized" contents would have been secured in a more solid fashon.

Obviously, the family possessed the wherewithal to set up a fairly elaborate security system.

But to own a "safe" that could be transported out of the house???

reply to post by Snisha


That's not that unusual. I have two safes one it would take about 10 men to lift or even move. The other is one about 3'X3'X18" and could easily be moved with a regular hand cart might even be able to pick it up and carry if you had a mind to! If they used it for meds then maybe it was safer to bring the safe to the pharmacist and load then to carry them in an unsafe manner to and from!

Zindo

FBI,DEA and ATF all investigating?You know something big must have been going on there.