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Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Spartak_FL
ya i know. this crap just seems to be banging the drum though. i live in so cal, been out of work for a year n 1/2 gettin cabin fever. i'm at the end of unemployment and i'm gettin pssd.
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Spartak_FL
well if you didn't see my edit i apologised.that was way off i know .can't even remember where it came from.far as just leave.thats not as easy as it sounds. go where? this # is really startin to suck. i'm gonna get off this thread before i get in trouble.
[edit on 1-7-2009 by randyvs]
Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by Spartak_FL
Who's being partisan? I was merely pointing out that California is very far from being socialist. And that we don't waste our money. I don't know where people get these crazy ideas about this state. We've been repeatedly ripped off by East coast corporations for the last decade. We don't lavish money on welfare queens or anything like that, so what the hell are you talking about?
Non-Californians seem to think that everyone here lives a Hollywood lifestyle...nothing could be further from the truth. Hollywood is as foriegn to us as it is to you: those folks aren't Californians as much as they are internationalists. The rest of us work hard, try not to overspend, and pay attention to the environment.
Locally, the education level is higher than the national average due to the presence of four major universities, several internationally renowned research centers, and a bunch of other nifty stuff. WE are NOT stupid, and I take offense at being called that. I've lived in Florida, and California is head and shoulders above that state. The stupid part is up north in Sacramento: all those damn businessmen turned politicians have wrecked the place because they want a free ride for their corporate buddies. Most folks I know have voted for sensible tax increases for purposes like firefighting, earthquake renovation, etc. But the corporate class fights tax increases religiously. So they substitute fees, sales taxes on stuff they don't buy, and crap like tolls on roads we the people bought and paid for.
The problem isn't stupid, lazy, or unambitious people: the problem is a corporate class run amuck demanding free lunches. It isn't a Republican or Democrat thing: it's a corporate thing. Stop believing California is as portrayed by TV series: that California exists only on the tube. The real California is the adult who's been supporting the rest of the country while they try to grow up and meet our standards.
Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by Spartak_FL
Those illegals are here because the corporate class likes cheap labor, not because I invited them. The business class hires them, and pushes their healthcare, education, etc. onto the state. They undercut legal residents' wages by hiring them rather than state residents. California could afford a lot of good stuff back when most of us had decent jobs and paid taxes. But the corporate types fired us, brought in H1B, H2B, and illegal workers at half of what we used to get paid. To add insult to injury they send the profits back East, and the workers send their wages back to the home country, rather than spend them here or be taxed here. Now they've destroyed the tax base with their greed. And you know what? Alot of those types are here from New York, Florida, and other parasitical East Coast states.
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Corporations dont write immigration law.
Originally posted by apacheman
And that we don't waste our money. I don't know where people get these crazy ideas about this state.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by apacheman
And that we don't waste our money. I don't know where people get these crazy ideas about this state.
It's pretty expensive and resource intensive to funnel in water to keep those stupid non-native palms alive.
Priorities man. Keeping up artificial appearances for tourists and transplants who think those trees are supposed to be there is not a priority.
Does spending get any more stupid than that?
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