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If you can't corelate data enough to define what your hypothesis is, then either change your hypothesis or scrub the research. Don't say. . . "Well if the past thirty years is like this, then the 7 billion years must be the same. . . "
I might as well say that because it didn't rain yesterday, that we are in a ten thousand year drought! Please send me money! Let me tax you! (That'll make it rain. . . :@@
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by Essan
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Personally I think acidification of the oceans and a need to reduce reliance on Russian gas and Iranian oil are more important reasons to cut GHG emissions - and justify any such plans regardless of any impact on climate.
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Essan, you keep giving excuses to the lies behind AGW...
Tell us, if CO2 really causes mayor damage by acidification in the oceans how come in times when the Earth's atmosphere had 7 times as much CO2 as now there was plenty of life in the oceans?....
As for reliance on Russian gas, that's a problem that some Europeans have, and they should find a way to solve it, but that way shouldn't have to involve getting all of the people on Earth to stop developing, or stop using any, and all forms of power from carbon sources just because you want to.
[edit on 30-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]
Not really, there have been plenty of times when atmospheric CO2 has changed, yet life in the oceans remained pretty much the same
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
These people lying to you are getting paid.
The scientists who say there is global warming -- and their are thousands. Are very smart and made good grades. They could have made MORE money pushing around paper. So keep that in mind when you listen to corporate shills and Bill O'Reilly or Neal Bortz.
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
The sun is something the climatologists are aware of. All that solar warming crap is just more disinfo. It is anthropogenic factors and that includes the methane produced by cows.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
BTW, one more thing which i have posted about in the past. Sometimes even NASA has released some danming evidence against the claim that the warming is being caused by anthropogenic sources.
Current warmth seems to be occurring nearly everywhere at the same time and is largest at high latitudes in the Northern Hemisphere. Over the last 50 years, the largest annual and seasonal warmings have occurred in Alaska, Siberia and the Antarctic Peninsula. Most ocean areas have warmed. Because these areas are remote and far away from major cities, it is clear to climatologists that the warming is not due to the influence of pollution from urban areas.
www.nasa.gov...
Originally posted by Curious and Concerned
Do you seriously believe that all of the thousands of scientists who disagree with AGW alarmism are paid by oil companies? Seriously?
Originally posted by Essan
Well obviously the majority are not actually involved in climate research. After allif 10,000 climate scientists signed a petition saying 10 pints of beer a day was good for you, would you believe them or the doctors who disagreed and said it was bad for you?
Originally posted by Essan
However, many scientists do dispute IPCC predictions and the emphasis on GHGs over other human activities - such as deforestation, other land use change, contrails etc which certainly do affect climate
But with a few exceptions, they do not disagree with AGW!
Originally posted by Curious and Concerned
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
These people lying to you are getting paid.
The scientists who say there is global warming -- and their are thousands. Are very smart and made good grades. They could have made MORE money pushing around paper. So keep that in mind when you listen to corporate shills and Bill O'Reilly or Neal Bortz.
Do you seriously believe that all of the thousands of scientists who disagree with AGW alarmism are paid by oil companies? Seriously?
Indeed they are.
Originally posted by Essan
No doubt, like always, you like to leave out the fact that this winter lasted longer than normal, and for the past 3 winters at least throughout most of the Earth there have been some of the worse winters to have occurred in a long time. Some countries have experienced the worse winters in decades, and in the case of China, the worse winter in about 100 years.
Although parts of China also had their mildest winter in 150 years India also had a record hot winter. And over half the USA had average or above average temperatures last winter. So not really that cold.
Originally posted by Essan
Originally posted by Curious and Concerned
Do you seriously believe that all of the thousands of scientists who disagree with AGW alarmism are paid by oil companies? Seriously?
Well obviously the majority are not actually involved in climate research. After allif 10,000 climate scientists signed a petition saying 10 pints of beer a day was good for you, would you believe them or the doctors who disagreed and said it was bad for you?
However, many scientists do dispute IPCC predictions and the emphasis on GHGs over other human activities - such as deforestation, other land use change, contrails etc which certainly do affect climate.
But with a few exceptions, they do not disagree with AGW!
If you disagree with me contact leading 'sceptic' Roger Pielke Sn and let me know what he has to say
Originally posted by Curious and Concerned
Do you seriously believe that all of the thousands of scientists who disagree with AGW alarmism are paid by oil companies? Seriously?