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Originally posted by Imago Dei
reply to post by Nightchild
This is not true. In actual fact, I have come to conclude that every forum related to conspiracies is a breeding ground and front for the disemination of luciferian lies like this. The biggest conspiriacy lie of all times is being fed to people right now, and it is this - Jesus and satan are the same and or that lucifer game to our rescue us in the garden.
This is the biggest load of balderdash total hogwash, it is totaly satanic luciferian evil lies right ou tof the pit of hell. Jesus Christ is the Lord, he is God, he claimed to be God and this is why he was crucified, although he was crucified by choice to pay for your sins. Read the gospel of John and you will see that everything you say is lies from the father of all lies, Satan.
You sound just like an illuminati pharisee, do you realise that?
Originally posted by 12.21.12
reply to post by Nightchild
I think Matreiya and Obama have an odd resemblance and if you do some research on the two, you would learn that Obama was in Kenya at the same times that matreiya has appeared.
No, Mr Obama is absolutely not Maitreya. I doubt that Mr Obama has ever heard of Maitreya. He may well be inspired by the ideas which have emanated from Maitreya over the years. These have been articulated by Share International for many years and are now being repeated by more and more people as the economic crash, predicted by Maitreya long ago, becomes a reality. Maitreya has waited until now to come forward openly because only now has the impending crash come to fruition, thus bringing many people – one of them, hopefully, Mr Obama – to see the reality of the need to change direction.
Originally posted by silencer
Lol, these crazy Christians....
The concept of God is so contradictory that the only way I'll believe in an all powerful mighty being sitting in the heavens is if he came down to earth and slapped me in the face and proved his miracles to me.
I do however believe that the elites, the ruling families, the ptb, etc. from the ancient times have deceived people into believing in the concept of God. They considered themselves Gods. And some guy somewhere started writing about these Gods in a metaphorical sense. Look at ancient religions from all over the world. They have so many similarities that it can easily be shown and has been shown that all the cultures speak of the same God with different names. All the different regions had their own elites/Gods who ruled them. It probably started with one family and the power spread to few more families as they intermarried. To this day, these few families rule the world and control its wealth.
Originally posted by Nightchild
Originally posted by Imago Dei
reply to post by Nightchild
Ofcourse He said He was God- He meant that everyone were their own god.
Umm no he didnt, if he meant that he would have said so. Satan on the other hand did say we are like God.
"The Kingdom of God is within You". Does not mean we are Gods.
PS, trundling out the old "religious wars" arguement - doesnt give you cartblange to misquote and misinterpret what the scripture says and means. Its a meangless read herring and has nothing to do with the point in question. Usually trundle out when one i sroundly thrashed.
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Originally posted by Imago Dei
The thing is when Jesus walked this earth performing astounding miracles left right and center, evidently they still didn't believe in him including some of his deciples who travelled with him everywhere for three years. So I dare say if he came down and slapped you upside the head all you'd be left with was a sore head.
Originally posted by silencer
The Anti-Christ, the light bringer in my opinion is the 'good' guy vs Jesus Christ, the 'bad' guy. Satan persuaded Adam to eat from the tree of knowledge and revolt against the all powerful, controlling, vengeful God.
We are always taught from birth how to be 'good'; Don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, resist violence, etc. We also have the 10 commandments to direct our lives.
But wait, stop and think for a second in modern terms.
God - TPTB, The NWO, The elites.
Jesus - Lobbyist
Satan - The one guy who resisted the control of mankind and tried to teach them to think individually and not follow a 'religion'.
Jesus taught good things as mentioned above, but he also taught us to worship God and the concept of hell and heaven, etc. In other words, the good things were a mask to show us that he is a benign buy, while behind the scenes he was teaching us to obey the all powerful elites and keep us in check by lobbying for them.
The elites are the people who control the world, they can make your life or destroy your life. They are God. They want to be worshiped and hate people who go against them. They punish them by making their life hell on earth.
Satan opposed these guys and tried to teach man to think for themselves and lead their life the way they want, a right they have since birth but that is never practiced.
The elites are the guys who cheat, steal, murder and do all the 'bad' things, yet they are the Gods who control the world. We are taught that we will be rewarded for being nice and good people. However, the majority of the people lead their lives just working hard and barely getting by. Doesn't it seem all too familiar?
I think the Anti-Christ will be people who stand up to these corrupt people and demand their rights back. These people will demand free electricty, free water, less dependency on oil and other natural resources, etc. All the things that our governments already know how to do, but they don't due to their greed for money and power.
This is why, the anti-Christ is shown as someone evil and always used in a negative sense. Jesus, the lobbyist, is shown as the most loving man to walk on earth. Both Satan and Jesus never existed, but their stories were made up to make sure the people follow the wrong guy and stay in their place and never revolt against the Gods. To this day, the false biblical stories are used to control people and keep them in check.
TPTB are scared of the Anti-Christ (The people who have awoken and eaten from the tree of knowledge) toppling their regime. We need to educate people and get them off heavenly fruits like drugs, alcohol, etc and give them a poisonous apple, it maybe bitter at first, but when they wake up and realized how they are being scammed then it will be 'true heaven' after that.
Iran: "Iman Ali Prophesied a Tall Black man Will Rise to Power in the West Just Before the Return of the Mahdi" www.weaselzippers.net... .html
Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world? The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar(meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam. According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West."Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us." In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition. Mystical reasons aside, the Khomeinist establishment sees Obama's rise as another sign of the West's decline and the triumph of Islam.Obama's promise to seek unconditional talks with the Islamic Republic is cited as a sign that the U.S. is ready to admit defeat. Obama's position could mean abandoning three resolutions passed by the United Nations Security Council setting conditions that Iran should meet to avoid sanctions.Seeking unconditional talks with the Khomeinists also means an admission of moral equivalence between the U.S. and the Islamic Republic. It would imply an end to the description by the U.S. of the regime as a "systematic violator of human rights."
Originally posted by silencer
Originally posted by Imago Dei
The thing is when Jesus walked this earth performing astounding miracles left right and center, evidently they still didn't believe in him including some of his deciples who travelled with him everywhere for three years. So I dare say if he came down and slapped you upside the head all you'd be left with was a sore head.
See, that's the problem with that theory. There is no proof that Jesus performed these miracles. The Bible talk about these miracles. No other scientist, scholar, philosopher, educated person, etc. mentioned Jesus. If a guy managed to do those miracles even today, he would be considered God and millions and millions of books, TV shows, media would talk about it. Yet, Jesus didn't get all the attention that he deserved. I wonder why.....maybe because he was no more real than the war on terror, or bugs bunny, or the flying spaghetti monster.
In my opinion, Jesus was a fictional character created by the Gods/Elites to deceive people into believing that If all of us became servants of God like Jesus, we would go to heaven. Lol. Christian religion hold as much water as scientology. All blind faiths.
Originally posted by Imago Dei
It is written that if every word Jesus was to have spoken was recorded there would not be enough room on the planet to hold all the books that would be written about Him. Jesus is known and embraced as the saviour by millions throughout history, he asked for no more credit than this. It was the gods/elites of this world that put Him to death, which achieved the exact opposite of what they wanted to achieve. His deciples, in a very short space of time, near turned the world upside down. They were well on the way to converting the whole world until the movement was somehow quashed by Constantine in about 300 AD. Near 100 hundred million have been martyred throughout history for a crime none other than not recanting that Jesus Christ is saviour and Lord, and still the beautiful truth has not been silenced.
I will never attempt to silence your truth....
other than to state that your truth is a lie.
Originally posted by XXXN3O
In over a year on ATS I have never said a comment like this but I will say it now and I pray I wont be the last because I have read threads like this for far too long on this site.
This is complete and utter blasphemy, nonsense, lies, trash and utter ignorance of what is actually the truth that is written for anyone who wants to see it.
Because right now, your making a lie from the truth you were given. You are taking something that you dont fully grasp and perverting it beyond recognition.
TPTB, you dont even know what that actually is do you?