I just received this e-mail from my congressman

Originally posted by mattifikation
My roommate wrote a letter to one of our Congressmen once stating his opposition to some bill he didn't like. The Congressman wrote him back, thanking my roommate for voicing his support for the bill and assuring him that his plans were to vote in support of the bill as well.

Somebody on ATS posted several correspondences with a Congressperson that had similar results, but I don't recall who or on what thread.

Maybe we should start sending letters in the form of those "type the word in the box" security devices that web sites use these days? Scan that, A HOLE!

I guess calling repeatedly until you get through on the phone is the only way you can actually make contact with a congressperson anymore. I wonder if that even works?

This is exactly the reason we need a clean sweep of our government. The will of the people has zero bearing on these asswipes anymore.

Originally posted by bismarcksea
Dude....you are SO on the terrorist watch list now.


I'll clue you in on the biggest little secret: The LIES are different on every level.


He has no idea about the FEMA camps, horse flue.etc. You just came off like a complete and total wackjob to him and his staff.

Yeah so everyone keeps telling me. I guess that job I wanted at homeland security is out of the question now huh? (lol sarcasm)

The FEMA camps: A) have been on tv already and B) he had to either vote on or see the bill that they recently passed authorizing them.

The horse virus is pretty much been all over the news as has the 30 horses that just dropped dead so he should at least have a passive knowledge of both. I would like to think he at least has what little intellect it takes to connect the dots and realize that whether or not related, the coincidence at least calls for some sort of investigation. They certainly have investigated things with less merit before.

Of course you are probably quite correct and he probably does not have enough intellect to see beyond the end of his nose (or his wallet, whichever he has in front of his face more often).

Thanks for the reply

reply to post by DarrylGalasso

I wish I could remember who posted that because I would like to congratulate them on their accuracy. The e-mail he sent me was so ambiguous it contained only a few of the same words as what I wrote to him and absolutely did not even mention what I wrote to him about, but captured key words and generated a response from those which had nothing to do with the context of the e-mail.

That likely would have been me as I have posted a number of examples on ATS of where my letters to my Senator and Congresswoman are answered with form letters that pretty much talk about them wanting to do the exact opposite of what I wrote them asking them not to do and how glad they are I want to do the exact opposite of what I wrote them about as well.

My most recent postings of these were on the threads dealing with the Community Service act signed into law today by the Crook in Cheif.

I actually called Senator Mel Martinez's office in Washington D.C. demanding an explanation as to why my emails and letters were not being read and was transfered from one staff member to another each refusing to give me an explanation just an appology for the inconvenience.

I was eventually hung up on.

My compliments to the OP it takes a lot of guts to write a letter like that to your representative, thankfully they don't read them!

This is the example I most recently posted on how my Senator does business.

A lot of fellow ATS members starred and commented positively to a copy of the letter I have posted below that I wrote to Senator Mel Martinez who represents Florida and my portion of it in the U.S. Senate.

I am posting this letter again though it can be found easily on the ATS Threads regarding H.R. 1388, to display and highlight that our politicians live in an alternative Universe that we do not. To prove this I am now posting bellow my letter to Senator Martinez the clearly states I am against H.R. 1388, his reply that I received today.

See how he responds to my entreaty, and keep in mind he is one of the big bad Republicans that many imagine want to save us from the big bad Democrats…

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Dear Senator Martinez,

The new Administration in Washington and the new Congress seated with it are causing many citizens growing alarm and panic with legislation like H.R. 1388 regarding mandatory/volunteer/required Civil Service along with a nationalized central Identification System to promote it and outsourcing it to be run by contracting it’s administration to a non-government Corporation.

The language used in this bill is something I would have never thought or sought to see in the United States of America.

It is unconscionable that the citizen’s elected Representatives have grown so distant from the average American’s thinking, desires and needs that such legislation could even be crafted, let alone co-sponsored, let alone being brought up for a vote.

I urge you Senator as someone who knows all to well the shortcomings and perils to liberty and prosperity that socialism and communism lead too, to not only vote against this bill but to devote as much of your time and focus to encouraging your Senate colleagues to vote against this bill.

Senator Martinez additionally I humbly request you reconsider your decision not to run for a second term in the United States Senate. I can appreciate your published sentiments that as a Republican in the minority, that your ability to be effective and craft and enact useful legislation is your motivating concern.

Sir, Americans need you now more than ever. Not to craft and enact legislation but to remain vigil and in open opposition to defeat unconstitutional and tyrannical legislation like H.R. 1388.

If a strong and vocal opposition can’t be maintained in the House and the Senate during these difficult and troubling times where the majority seems to favor socialist solutions then our way of life, along with our liberties and values that once made this nation the shining example of people and government throughout the world, will be lost forever.

America needs you Senator Martinez, it needs you to safeguard America and ensure its survival and it needs you to help defeat H.R. 1388, America desperately needs you to support H.R. 833 to create congressional oversight and auditing provisions of the Federal Reserve.

These are the House of Representatives version of these Bills and both warrant the citizen’s representatives representing the citizens and not the corporate interests fighting for and against these bills or the desire on behalf of too many representatives to create more government for the sake of government itself.

Thank you in advance for your consideration in regards to these vital matters.

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Constituent & Citizen

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Below is a response to the recent comments I received from you:


Dear Mr. XXXXXX

Thank you for contacting me regarding serving America. I appreciate hearing from you and would like to take this opportunity to respond.

On September 12, 2008, Senator Edward Kennedy (D-MA) introduced the Serve America Act (S.3487). This legislation establishes a commission to study ways in which the federal government and businesses can more effectively collaborate with nonprofit and philanthropic organizations to address pressing national and local challenges. S.3487 also expands the ServeAmerica Corps, provides college tax credit to students, awards states and nonprofit organizations grants, and gives tax incentives to businesses who's employees commit to serve. The Serve America Act has been referred to the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. Although I do not serve on this committee, I will be sure to keep your support in mind should the Senate consider this legislation.

Like you, I believe it is imperative for Congress to work together to produce legislation that address the growing need for volunteering. Community service provides invaluable support for our nation, and it is even more important that Americans continue down the paths that lead to a lifetime of service and improved opportunities. I will continue to work hard to ensure that Americans have the resources available to them in order to succeed.

Again, thank you for sharing your views with me. If you have any further questions or comments, please do not hesitate to contact me. In addition, for more information about issues and activities important to Florida, please sign up for my weekly newsletter at martinez.senate.gov....

Sincerely,

Mel Martinez
United States Senator


**Note: PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL. If you would like to reply to this message, please contact me through my website at martinez.senate.gov....


As you can see, what I am begging him not to do, he is assuring me that he will do exactly what I didn't and don't want him to do, because I requested it!

I have many other examples of both Democratic Congressmen and Republican Congressmen writing back to me on other issues where they cheerfully inform me they are on my side, representing me and will do because I asked, precisely what I in fact asked them not to do.

Houston we have a problem!

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Because everyone on ATS wants proof!

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Yeah it was actually quite funny to me with the e-mail response I got today from the e-mail I sent last week.

In my original e-mail I basically told him that I was sick of my government giving our tax dollars to bankers and the way that they have represented us. I also told him that I felt that the citizens of our country was ready for some real change and not the axiomatic line of crap we have been fed for the past 30 years or so and I thanked him for being so careless that he has opened the door for me to run for his seat next year and in the process his copious financial advantage over me has been nullified.

He wrote me back something like. I was originally opposed to the bailouts and we were not given enough time to fully access the package before the second vote.

The mention of bankers and bailouts took up approximately 10 words of an approximate 500 word e-mail and the response he sent was totally based on the bailouts and did not mention ANYTHING else, which was the entire context of my e-mail.

When I read it the first thing that came to me was when someone here (probably you) told me about the computer scanning and generated responses. I believe that the thread was on the California congresswoman that got caught on the wiretap.

Anyhow, great assessment, after reading the e-mail today, there is no doubt in my mind you are 100% correct.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


You know what, I just thought of something. What if we could somehow convince thousands of "normal" citizens to write their congressmen? Do you think the general population has the required intellect to figure out that their representatives are not even listening to them and even worse, they are not only not listening but being deceitful as well by acting like they are listening.

I would imagine that the first thing they would do is write them back and say, this is not what I asked of you, I asked the exact opposite, I think you may have misinterpreted what I said so I will explain it again. And then they get the same response back they did the first time.

What do you think? Do you think that would wake some people up?

I think they probably already know. They're just too dumb to realize they don't actually *have* to vote Democrat or Republican. And of course, as long as these congressional crooks know they've got a 50/50 chance, they have no reason to even try to improve.

I think a much more hilarious idea would be to crack the algorithm they use to generate their automated replies, and use that knowledge to get some of these pricks to send us back letters saying that they support killing crippled children, or burning puppies for causing global warming.

Originally posted by DarrylGalasso
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

You know what, I just thought of something. What if we could somehow convince thousands of "normal" citizens to write their congressmen? Do you think the general population has the required intellect to figure out that their representatives are not even listening to them and even worse, they are not only not listening but being deceitful as well by acting like they are listening.

I would imagine that the first thing they would do is write them back and say, this is not what I asked of you, I asked the exact opposite, I think you may have misinterpreted what I said so I will explain it again. And then they get the same response back they did the first time.

What do you think? Do you think that would wake some people up?

I appreciate very much your thoughts and you know everything is worth a try.

The problem with the current system is by and large the people have no power in it.

It's powerful corporate and special interests that fund politicians to be able to run increasingly expensive campaigns.

To win a race you have to have money and you have to have favorable media and you have to have a slate of issues to run on that the media can pitch as favorable.

While ultimately it's your vote being fought over it's being fought over in a way that Generals fight to defeat enemy countries. We need to drop x tons of munitions on x area on x number of days and assault x locations with x number of troops.

For politicians though it really is we need x number of adds on x number of stations broadcasting to x number of demographics x times a day at x time a day to reach them and to be able to address x number of issues that our research says matters to them and get x number of favorable reviews to win this race.

Like everythign else in this serialized world your vote is just a number a solitary one. They look to win or loose it with the same uniform approach.

An approach big money and big sponsors buys.

I honestly believe that the average representative in Washington is not only so dependent upon those big money sponsors and interests but actually totally dismissive of how any individual citizen or even large group of citizens if not equally funded and organized presents any threat.

I honestly worry that even if organized citizens groups urging constitutional adherence actually became a threat to government as government does business, they would still ignore the threat and do everything they could to minimize the threat and keep on doing business as usual because it is so lucrative to them until they litterally saw torches burning in their windows and mobs outside of them brandishing pitch forks.

Even then they woudl still try to talk their way into one more chance!

I am not saying it's hopeless my friend, I am saying they are very, very corrupt, and very, very entrenched.

It's going to take some extraoidinary efforts to change the status quo.

Every one person does help though towards that end. So don't let that assesment discourage you, yet rather strengthen your level of resolve to fortify yourself for not just a battle, but a battle royal!

The Red Coats are comming!

Originally posted by DarrylGalasso

As far as my real name goes I am not ashamed of it. Thomas Jefferson once said:

"One man with courage is a majority."

I am not afraid to use my real name, here or anywhere. There was once a time in this country when people were actually known by their real names and were not afraid to use them. It does however surprise me that people (not you specifically as I do not know your position) always come on here talking of how tough they are and how their gonna take up arms..etc yet when it comes right down to it, they are too afraid to even use their name. How do you think these people are going to respond when they are confronted by someone and don't have an audience to draw courage from? We have a copious amount of people in this country that hide behind different identities or what have you, I choose to be proud of who I am and am not afraid to use my name.

I am not hiding from anyone, that is my nature. It always has been and it always will be.

To address my introduction, first off that was better than half way through the letter so its not really an introduction. Second, I have written this guy 7 or 8 times over the last 5 years and his response to me has yet to address what I wrote to him about, and he just did it again today (read above). So what is to lead me to believe he will address it this time, perhaps my mind set was to incite him to actually read the e-mail this time (you never know what a person's intent is unless you ask or they make it obvious).

Thanks for the response and the recommendations though I do appreciate your concern.

For public consumption, I won't reveal my personal info over globally accessible network period. Only financial or legal organizations require that.

The REAL nutjobs that are in power are far more dangerous than most readers. It only takes one nutjob with an axe to grind and a computer with small knowledge to ruin the lives of many.

As for my stand... you know more about me from our U2U... I'll add this much more for public consumption and blow my own horn too... I've been nearby and assisted victims in four separate auto accidents. One where a drunk driver almost rolled over on top of my car; hitting the car close behind me when his car did finally land (upside down). Since it was a lone mountain road before cell phones existed. The other driver help me pull the drunk from his burning car and I went to call for an ambulance.

I have the courage, as I'm sure many others here do as well. My story is just one tiny story; Many people care... you don't need to be a 'bleeding heart liberal' to care. Courage takes action. It's not a really a conscious thought; you just do what needs to be done, spot on. No fear.

I don't have a lot of confidence in many of my neighbors but we'll see what they are made of in the near future. No one can predict the future but know your own limitations.

Stay safe and wise.

BTW Thomas Jefferson is one of my childhood hero's I was a weird kid.

Edit to add this much more... Thanks for being a concerned citizen and contacting your worthless representative/senator they are most all worthless waste of flesh producing harmful gases in this planet. At least you are trying. I keep trying... it's all we can do for now.


[edit on 4·24·09 by DrMattMaddix]

reply to post by DarrylGalasso


I wasn't aware that the scumbags were auto-responding to emails.

Someone said their phone calls are answered and transferred all over hell and back and then hung up on... ??

I have always gotten fair responses, if that were to happen to me I wouldn't take 'no' for an answer. I haven't been angered enough yet I imagine.

Bank Of America now hates my guts. At least some of their CS reps. and managers do... Oh well.

Is it time to take this to the source? I'll need to make some calls before I get fully steamed. And they had better listen.

I like Chuck Norris ... anyone that can kick someone in the back of the face kicks ass too.