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Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Swatman
My point summed up perfectly. ^^
That's twice now a member has complained that it was offensive and then made an offensive joke.
Either it is all okay, or none of it is.
Originally posted by TruthParadox
That's exactly my point. It isn't about what he said or how 'offensive' it was, it's about who he is.
This is about politics.
Again, what matters is the intent.
Was he intentionally showing some sort of hatred for disabled people?
Of course not.
He was insulting his own bowling abilities.
Originally posted by riley
From most of what I've seen on this very thread many people have alot of contempt for people with disabilities.
I'd say you're probably imagining that.
I haven't seen any contempt for disabled people.
Saying someone is retarded isn't an insult unless you mean it as an insult.
Intent is everything.
A family member of mine is retarded, and I'm not being mean by saying that, it's just a fact.
People like you are afraid of stating facts.
Now we say "mentally handicapped". In the future, people will use THAT as an insult,
and so you won't even be able to call someone mentally handicapped without feeling guilty. What will the next word be?
It's BS.
Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Swatman
No, see, I don't mind either of them. I just know that someone will be offended either way - that's how jokes work. If you can laugh at one, then you need to learn to laugh at them all.
You are the double standard - not me. I don't mind anything but the partisan garbage you flagrantly prance around and put on display.
Originally posted by Swatman
woh now. imagine if Bush said that????
Originally posted by riley
"I already said in that post I respected obama's apology and I have no doubt he is sorry"
..and insulting his own bowling abilities by comparing then to special olympians. It's pretty obvious how this insults disabled people. Let me explain again:
because his bowling is that bad! Get it?
Originally posted by riley
Using the word "retard" is enough.. did you count them or just decide they weren't really offensive by YOUR standards? even finding the joke funny requires at least some level of contempt for disabled people. I am not imagining anything as the insults are not that subtle.
Originally posted by riley
Calling them a retard defines them by that label.. suddenly they are no longer a person but a retardation personafied. (I can't believe I have to walk people through WHY this word is so offensive..:shk: )
Originally posted by riley
Now we say "mentally handicapped". In the future, people will use THAT as an insult,
In the future perhaps biggotry will be a thing of the past.
Originally posted by riley
I'm wondering.. are you alright with racial slurs then? People don't use ex. the n word anymore and it hasn't just been replaced by something else so thats a non argument.
Originally posted by riley
Calling them a retard defines them by that label.. suddenly they are no longer a person but a retardation personafied. (I can't believe I have to walk people through WHY this word is so offensive.. ) :shk:
Originally posted by Irish M1ckYes, some were offended, but those aren't the ones on this forum, on the news, and making waves about the comment.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Star for you, riley. I think that calling someone a retard is one of the most degrading things you can call a challenged person. There doesn't need to be any analysis of "why" it's degrading; it just is.
I can honestly say that none of the people I know and respect have ever used that term.
Originally posted by Irish M1ck
half the people on this forum complaining about Obama's comment being offensive have been far more careless and offensive.
Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to post by riley
You may have been... I clearly said that it was just many on this thread, not all.
Originally posted by Irish M1ck
half the people on this forum complaining about Obama's comment being offensive have been far more careless and offensive.
some were offended, but those aren't the ones on this forum,
Those are the people I'm talking about. You may have been offended, and that's fine.
That means 90% of the stuff on Comedy Central, pretty much any stand-up comedian, etc. If one thing is offensive, all of them need to be.
Originally posted by Irish M1ck
Just know, if you are offended by Obama's comment, then you need to objection to all comments of the like.
That means 90% of the stuff on Comedy Central, pretty much any stand-up comedian, etc. If one thing is offensive, all of them need to be.
Originally posted by Irish M1ck
First of all, spare me the drama. In reality, it doesn't matter all the much to me if you were offended by that comment. I mean, honestly, if that offends you, you're going to have a tough life.