Mummies found in Pyramids

Originally posted by RuneSpider
reply to post by Kandinsky

 

It should be noted that the only klerksdorpt spheres you'll find pictures of... are the ones that fit the profile. They range in shape and size, from being flattened, to being joined. They are formed from iron pyrite.

As for the Bagdhad batteries, the copper cylinder was covered in bitumen. That would have caused it to be insulated, the ones used to create a charge had this removed from the redesign.

You're right about the spheres, they've been adopted by the 'forbidden archaeology' crowd. Having done a quick search, I'd go so far as to say the images seem to show only three of these spheres! There are geologists' descriptions of misshapen examples and some that are molded together, but no images. Also none to buy on Ebay...

The Baghdad batteries do indeed need to have the bitumen/asphalt removed to tap the current. From small and unusual Thracian pots to lighting huge bulbs in Pyramids 4000 years ago...

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Hiya, good questions. I prefer the more mundane answers of natural selection to explain our progress from naked ape to dominant lifeform. It still leaves questions that science hasn't yet answered. Although they're mysteries now, it doesn't seem impossible that we'll get the answers some time.

There's an excellent site that shows how Man has progressed and spread around the world. It also talks about the tools and cultural changes. At around 45,000 years ago is the part you'll probably enjoy. It's the mysterious 'Great leap forward'

Advocates of this theory argue that the great leap forward occurred sometime 50-40kya in Africa or Europe. They argue that humans who lived before 50kya were behaviorally primitive and indistinguishable from other extinct hominids such as the Neanderthals or Homo erectus.

Proponents of this view base their evidence on the abundance of complex artifacts, such as artwork and bone tools of the Upper Paleolithic, that appear in the fossil record after 50kya. They argue that such artifacts are absent from the fossil record from before 50kya, indicating that earlier hominids lacked the cognitive skills required to produce such artifacts.

Source

The site that charts all this is called Atlas of the Human Journey. It has video for each time period. Human development has followed a reasonable path of building on preceding knowledge, but the 'leap forward' sees a rapid expansion in our activities.

It's like a light bulb suddenly went on. Maybe we had a collection of genes like the FOXP2 but it was only when certain mutations appeared that all the green lights came on? That this apparently sudden evolution covered the whole species worldwide is open to some speculation (cue Twilight Zone theme:wow

Well I guess it's no more amazing than single celled organisms popping up spontaneously.

Originally posted by DJones
Well I guess it's no more amazing than single celled organisms popping up spontaneously.

That's got to be the biggest mystery of all. From inanimate to animated. Hundreds of millions ago, a dead planet, volcanoes, storms, vast oceans...and something moved

I think Asimov or Einstein said "Either there is intelligent life in the Universe, or there isn't. Either way it's mind-boggling." It seems to apply to life in general...either it started from something or started from nothing...mind boggling

I like this thread so I did an update and a search to find some more info, I am still leaning to the the theory that claims that the pyramids are a lot older, than what the established scientific community seems to believe.

"Much has been made of the fact that of all the pyramids of Egypt that have ever been explored, never once has the mummy of a pharaoh been found within. Mummy parts have been found in pyramids. Such discoveries include part of a mummified foot in the pyramid of Djoser; a right arm, skull fragments, and various other bones in the pyramid of Unas; an arm and shoulder in the pyramid of Teti; fragments of a mummy in the pyramid of Pepi I; mummy wrappings in the pyramid of Pepy II, and charred bones in the pyramid of Amenemhet III. In the center satellite pyramid of Menkaure, Perring and Vyse found a skeleton of a young woman in the sarcophagus within. They also found, in the main pyramid, part of a wooden coffin believed to be Menkaure's along with some mummy fragments. But never has an extant mummy been found in any pyramid, nor have any parts of a mummy been identified with certainty as those of a king. Critics of the pyramid-as-tomb theory claim that such mummy parts, rather than being detritus left after the robbers hacked away the mummies for jewels and gold, represent parts left from intrusive burials made long after the pyramid was built. Burials of this type are common in areas and tombs around the various pyramids."
Source: www.world-mysteries.com...

Parts of a mummy found inside a 4,300-year-old pyramid could be Queen Seshseshet, the mother of the first pharaoh of Egypt's 6th dynasty, archaeologists have announced
Source: news.nationalgeographic.com...

Mummies in South Africa.
In the continuing excavation of the pyramid, led by Saburo Sugiyama, professor at Aichi Prefectural University in Japan and research professor at Arizona State University, and Ruben Cabrera of Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History, the team has found a fifth tomb, this time at the center of the fifth of the pyramid's seven stages of construction. This phase of the excavation has been supported by the Japan Society for the Promotion of Science and the National Geographic Society. ASU manages an archaeological research center at the site. The filled-in burial vault contains the remains of twelve people, all apparently sacrificed, together with a large variety of offerings and the remains of various animals of clearly symbolic importance. Ten of the human bodies were decapitated. Sugiyama, the excavation director, believes that the signs of violence and militarism in the burial are especially significant.
Source: www.sciencedaily.com...

Unas Pyramide:
A left arm and hand, together with pieces of a skull were found in the debris of stones and dirt. These fragments were mummified in several lengths of linen bandages, preserving some of the skin and hair. It is not impossible that these are the remains of Unas himself. They are now preserved in the Cairo Museum.
Source: www.ancient-egypt.org...

Djoser´s tomb:
Djoser's tomb, as is the case with most other pyramids, is located deep beneath the pyramid, about 95 feet below the present day surface. Several vividly painted walls were inlaid with blue tiles. When the site was excavated in 1934 by Jean-Philippe Lauer, he found a mummified left foot, believed to be all that is left of Djoser.
Source: archaeology.about.com...

Djoser tomb:
The Step Pyramid Complex of Djoser: www.arthistory.upenn.edu...

Pepi Pyramide:
A fragment of a mummy was found that could have been that of Pepi I, but is uncertain, along with some fine linen wrappings.
Source:www.touregypt.net...

Amenemhet II Pyramid:
From the southeast corner of the burial chamber a short corridor leads to a small side chamber where leg bones, presumably of the king, were found.
Source:www.crystalinks.com...

Menkaure Pyramide:
H. Vyse found a basalt sarcophagus and inside it a skeleton of a young woman. The sarcophagus was lost in the Mediterranean between ports of Cartagena and Malta when the ship "Beatrice" sank after setting sail on October 13, 1838. We still have the lid from the wooden anthropoid coffin found inside the pyramid which bears the name and titles of Menkaure.
Source:www.guardians.net...

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Look at the pyramids of giza from the sky:www.sacred-destinations.com...

the alignment is so perfect, ive heard theory that these pyramid might actually be some sort of an ancient machine. It was said that the pyramids wereused to remove astroids from their orbit so it would hit earth. The weird part is that there the top piece of one of the pyramids is missing and that why it doesnt work, my source says that he believes this is soo and that he also believes that the egyptian goverment is hiding the missing piece. you cant deny that this theory maybe correct because know ancient egypt had alien visitation. the time period that they were in made it impossible to make the pyramids so how did they make them? why were there drawings found in pyramid that looked like flying saucer:www.benotdeceived.org...
reasercher this topic and let me noe what are your thoughts of this

About the age of the pyramids and who built them seems to be hard to find out. There are apparently several theories around.

Egyptologists believe that the pyramid was built as a tomb for fourth dynasty Egyptian Pharaoh Khufu (Cheops in Greek) and constructed over a 14 to 20-year period concluding around 2560 BC.

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

But we know very little of this Egyptian Pharaoh Khufu Source:books.google.com...=snippet&q=%22built%20to%20be%20his%20tomb%22&f=false (look at page 81)

There are others that believe the pyramids to be much older including Blavatsky

Pyramids and Temples in Egypt
By Coen Vonk

Who were the builders of the pyramids? The dominant opinion is that the pharaohs, starting with Djoser (2630-2611 BC), ordered their construction. The evidence supporting this theory is not based upon many hard facts, however. The Great Pyramid, for example, is supposed to have been built by Khufu or Cheops because of the red-painted cartouches discovered in one of the five chambers above the King's Chamber by Howard Vyse in 1837.

Some of them read "Khnum Khufu": "Khnum (or the divine potter) protects me."

This inscription, found in various other places in Egypt, could have been a spell of protection. Khnum later became known as Kneph, also called the enlightener.

There are no ancient Egyptian historical accounts of the building of the pyramids or of their builders. All we know about them is based, firstly, upon accounts by ancient Greeks who received their information from the Egyptian priests and rulers of their time; and secondly, on a handful of inscriptions, statues, and other objects found in surrounding temples which are related to the pyramids on the assumption that they date from the same time period as the pyramids themselves, leaving aside evidence to the contrary.

Such inscriptions and objects may easily have been added at a later date. On the so-called Inventory Stele, Khufu is said to have had repair work done to the Great Sphinx and the Isis Temple (he called the Great Pyramid the "House of Isis"), which latter he discovered buried beneath the sand.

The Stele also mentions that Khufu built small pyramids for himself and his wife and family, next to the Great Pyramid. Egyptologists attribute this inscription to a later period and question its authenticity because they reason that at a later time there were priests who called themselves after the pharaohs "Khafre" and "Khufu."
But why not continue this line of reasoning and consider the possibility that the pharaohs Khafre and Khufu were themselves named after other pharaohs or ancient god-men?

A list of gods or god-men who ruled before the pharaohs is on the wall in the temple of Abydos opposite the one containing the list of kings, but it has been relegated to the category of myth and fable. It is quite possible that the supposed builders of the pyramids only reused the surrounding temples and modified them, and performed repair work on pyramids which had been out of use for a long time.

This agrees with a statement by H. P. Blavatsky about Cheops as the supposed builder of the Great Pyramid:

Cheops never built it. It was built ages before him and he only desecrated it by giving it another use. In his day no more initiations took place in it and he consecrated it to Tet, or Seth-Typhon. -- Collected Writings 4:287

The evidence for the supposed builder of the Great Pyramid is as poor as the evidence for the supposed builders of the pyramids of Khafre, Menkaure, and the Red and Bent Pyramids of Sneferu in the Dashur group.

John Anthony West writes on the Pyramid of Khafre:

Like all the other pyramids of the Giza and Dahshur group, it is essentially anonymous. The attribution is made through Herodotus' account, and the surrounding funerary complex which repeatedly refers to Chephren. There are no inscriptions in the pyramid, nor is there any evidence that Chephren or anyone else was ever buried in the sarcophagus embedded in the main chamber. -- The Traveler's Key to Ancient Egypt, p. 123

It therefore seems more reasonable to conclude that we do not know who built the pyramids, rather than to force questionable conclusions into dogmas which only serve to prevent us from discovering the truth.

Source www.theosociety.org...

oh my, another piece of fringe nonsense

But never has an extant mummy been found in any pyramid

The pyramid with a mummy inside

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Isn't that Nassim guy, well the guy everyone doesn't like because hes a liar, or something?

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The grooved ball, Ica stone thing,actually looks alot like a cricket ball. Just saying it caught my eye.