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Originally posted by TrixieBelden
reply to post by pureevil81
I once read that "Israel" is actually an acronym for "Isis" - "Ra" - "Elohim," signifying the union of both the male and female divine in the Egyptian culture into one entity in the Hebrew culture. Not sure if that should be taken literally or figuratively (much like man and wife become one in marriage).
Given Joseph's sojourn and authority in Egypt (Joseph of the coat of many colors fame), as well as Moses' origination in Egypt, it's possible. One school of thought says that Moses was a title, rather than a name, and that he was either the Pharaoh Thutmose (easily corrupted to Moses) or Akhenaten before his exile. I just noticed another thread with this line of thought which might flesh the concept out further.
To those that are saying that the bible came first, but just wasn't published yet, I would have to say that you are living your life with blinders on. The Sumerian texts came LONG before any of the biblical stories and if you can find a single "archaeological dig" that supports any theory otherwise, I would be happy to see it.
The story of Gilgamesh (a sumerian ruler) is the oldest recorded story in the world, and the tablets we have date back close to 3000 B.C. in twelve separate pieces. The oldest version of the Old Testament dates back to around 1000 to 500 B.C. Hardly a contest between the two, and the Gilgamesh Epic gives an account of a version of Noah and his survival of a "Great Flood" generations before. Different names, of course, but the story is the same.
The tablets are proof in and of themselves. As for the dates for the Gilgamesh account of the flood, it comes many generations before the time of Gilgamesh's rule (obviously, if he is encountering Utnapishtim himself) and he ruled around 2700 B.C. You will not find any archaeological evidence of a bible story coming before that time. In fact, many of the more popular books, such as the Gospels, were written at least a hundred years after the facts anyway. The New Testament is even worse; composed entirely from what Emperor Constantine and the council of Nicea concluded would be the most appropriate books to paint the most "divine" picture of christ. Anything that made him out to be simply human was left out. These are what make up the "Gnostic Gospels".
Originally posted by TrixieBelden
reply to post by justamomma
It is unfortunate that we react to new knowledge with fear, rather than logic. I usually find that looking at a new line of thought enhances my perspective in one way or another, often in unexpected ways.
Please don't think I was being judgmental when using the word "corrupted," but only in the clinical sense that "Thutmose" was altered. I also know that while my knowledge and understanding is limited, God's is infinite, and that God must use imperfect channels - us - to accomplish His wonders. Even mistakes and errors in judgment can convey divine truths.
Originally posted by John Matrix
reply to post by pureevil81
I suggest you keep your day job. Biblical hermeneutics is obviously not your cup of tea.
What you call yourself on ATS speeks volumes about yourself and the confusion you choose to spread.
Oh.. the alien gods that created us according to the sumarians are the annunaki. I wouldn't even know where to begin.. research it.. it is a big fad right now.
The mystery of the pyramids I think is very valid but it has nothing to do with aliens. It is found in the Tanakh. Ask Him. This is one I won't divulge as with other things. It is not something that will make or break a person's soul, but there are certain things that I hold on to because when they are revealed to a person who is seeking with all their heart, they will further confirmation of Who is leading them. That was such an awesome feeling, I would feel like I were cheating others from it.
I am still a babe. Considering the vast amounts of knowlege that is His, I can't imagine ever being able to consider myself not. lol
Originally posted by Boogley
reply to post by pureevil81
1, he dies for 3 days and was buried in a cave. After 3 days he ascended to heaven. (During the 3 days he was in hell) And as someone else said God was talking to his seed not Jesus' seed. Why is Christianity under so much attack? Would I get banned if I started making stupid posts about Muslims or any other religion for that matter? I wish the mods would have something to say here. This dude clearly pulled random versus and tried to turn their meanings around to get a rise out of people. Glad this is condoned.
[edit on 30-1-2009 by Boogley]