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Originally posted by paperplanes
Did anyone bother to read the article Ashley linked? The moral sentiments expressed following this revelation seem to suggest that the scientists in question specially ordered a fetus (or several) to be aborted for use in the stroke treatment. This is not the case. These were babies that had already been aborted and were being utilized after the fact by scientists for the betterment of ill individuals.
Originally posted by marg6043
I wish it could be discussed without the babies are been killed for this.
Originally posted by paperplanes
Perhaps I have more faith in humanity than you do.
Originally posted by paperplanes
I do not forsee the mainstream scientific community embracing the abortion of children for use in stem cell research.
Originally posted by AshleyD
Originally posted by paperplanes
Did anyone bother to read the article Ashley linked? The moral sentiments expressed following this revelation seem to suggest that the scientists in question specially ordered a fetus (or several) to be aborted for use in the stroke treatment. This is not the case. These were babies that had already been aborted and were being utilized after the fact by scientists for the betterment of ill individuals.
I'm sorry I seemed to miss that part. Can you please quote the segment from the article that gave you the impression abortions took place just for the research? I see nothing of the sort. It just says from an aborted fetus, implying exactly what you just said: An abortion that had already been done.
The article nor myself say anything remotely like abortions are taking place just for the research.
Originally posted by AshleyD
So take care everyone. No hard feelings. I still think all you guys are awesome people. We have to have some fun withe the hotter subject too and I think we've all done a great job on this thread tackling a heated issue while still being civil.
Originally posted by marg6043
Yes you can!!!!while talking about the benefits and the great opportunity that people with severe spinal cord injuries can look for, the loved and wanted babies that are born with genetic disorders can get from all this to have a better shot at life.
Originally posted by saint4God
reply to post by paperplanes
I'm glad you acknowledge that embryos are alive and therefore are killed and harvested for stem cells. That actually allows the discussion to move forward a bit. I appreciate that you've clarified that for it to be an issue for you it must be sentient however denying a being from becoming sentient when by due course of biology it can become such should be a cause for alarm.
Following this train of thought, it would then be okay to drug/gas someone beyond recognition and then take their life. After all, they're not aware and the person's parts can be used in a heart transplant.
Originally posted by saint4God
Originally posted by marg6043
...finally we have a president that cares about science
Good try, but he doesn't care about science really (notice he hasn't a science background). I care about science, which is why I became a scientist. I was very happy to hear that the job I got was in healthcare. Guess what? Farming embryos is not healthcare. It's a cheap way of mining death for parts. Wondering when the in-vitro baby factory begins, surely it's the next step.
[edit on 23-1-2009 by saint4God]